Dry valve response time calculation

2016-01-13 Thread Todd Williams
Is anyone using Tyco's Fluid Time Delivery software? How does is check with actual trip times? Todd G Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, CT 860-535-2080 (ofc) 860-608-4559 (cell) Sent using CloudMagic [https://cloudmagic.com/k/d/mailapp?ct=ti=6.0.64=8.2]

RE: CPVC pipe in steel studs

2016-01-13 Thread Rod DiBona
Dewayne, We use stud grommets on each stud that our pipe crosses. Not sure where we get them but they are out there. If you don't find them easy shoot me an email off forum and I will ask the purchasing guys where they get them. Rod at Rapid r...@rapidfireinc.com -Original Message-

RE: CPVC pipe in steel studs

2016-01-13 Thread Jerry Van Kolken
Had to deal with this recently. Copper B-line has a Grommet (BM1) I think Erico had one too. Copper B-line also has a Tape product for edges B-1999 ( if I remember correctly). Jerry Van Kolken Millennium Fire Protection (760) 722-2722 -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum

RE: CPVC pipe in steel studs

2016-01-13 Thread Taylor Schumacher
I've used Erico ESGFP (Easy Snap Grommet for Fire Protection) in the past. Not sure how large you are trying to go, but they work for 1" CPVC TAYLOR SCHUMACHER Security Fire Sprinkler P 320.656.0847  |  F  320.656.0312 E tay...@sfsprinkler.com -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum

CPVC pipe in steel studs

2016-01-13 Thread Dewayne Martinez
Do I need some type of pipe protection when running CPVC pipe through steel studs? I thought about stud grommets but I can’t find any large enough. Thanks, Dewayne ___ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org

RE: Torque values?

2016-01-13 Thread Matthew J Willis
Have you checked into the thread itself? My old memory recalls the taper and threads per inch. On 1" pipe you have 2 7/8 threads left. AFSA course has good best practices. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Steve Leyton

Torque values?

2016-01-13 Thread Steve Leyton
I have an interesting and challenging situation: My firm is overseeing remediation of rampant leaks on all floors of the sprinkler systems in a 6-story building. Our first suspect was a really bad MIC infection, but that's not it. What we think we have is situation where the threads were not

RE: Torque values?

2016-01-13 Thread MPhelps
The proper way to determine a correct joint make up is with a ring gauge to test the thread depth and taper. If the threads are made properly, then the "2 to 3 threads showing at make-up" standard is bullet proof. If the ring gauge indicates the threads are deep or shallow, a "tight " joint

RE: Torque values?

2016-01-13 Thread Steve Leyton
Yes, the metallurgist will be doing in depth analysis of the threads, but there are long-standing good practices and standards for threads. SL -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Matthew J Willis Sent:

Re: Dry valve response time calculation

2016-01-13 Thread Travis Mack
Used it many years ago. It is very accurate. We got within a second between calculated and measured times. It only works for trees and not loops. Or at least that used to be the limitation. I hated the program input. It was very tedious. Travis Mack, SET MFP Design, LLC "Follow" us on

RE: Dry valve response time calculation

2016-01-13 Thread Don Casey
Used it on all dry system designs in a previous life (job). The trip times through a single test connection were typically longer. Keeping in mind that all the systems I've used the calcs for were ordinary or extra hazard systems which calculate two (OH) or four (EH) open heads. Cheers

RE: Dry valve response time calculation

2016-01-13 Thread Byron Weisz
We have had good look with it as well. Even better when the piping installed up to the Inspector's Test Valve is run the same size as the branch line. Byron Weisz   Cen-Cal Fire Systems, Inc. 1615 So. Stockton St. Lodi, CA. 95240 Ph.   (209) 334-9119 Fax   (209) 334-2923 by...@cen-calfire.com