ESFR sprinkler with 18" Wide Flanges

2017-07-20 Thread Jerry Van Kolken
I have a job with group A Plastics that are exposed unexpanded. They are calling for the installation of ESFR sprinkler. According to NFPA 13(2016) Table 17.2.3.1 only pendent sprinkler are allowed in this applications. The only support structure is 18" deep wide flanges. Therefore the piping w

RE: Sprinklers protecting openings

2017-07-20 Thread Prahl, Craig/GVL
There are some great details on opening protection in the FM Data sheet 1-23 Craig L. Prahl Fire Protection Group Lead/SME CH2M 200 Verdae Blvd. Greenville, SC 29607 Direct - 864.920.7540 Fax - 864.920.7129 CH2MHILL Extension 77540 craig.pr...@ch2m.com From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerfo

Storage question

2017-07-20 Thread Roland Huggins
There is a current research project by the FPRF that needs to some input. Please answer the below three questions and send to: Garner Palenske mailto:gpalen...@jensenhughes.com>>. And cc me at: Roland Huggins mailto:rhugg...@firesprinkler.org>> Please do not respond to the Forum. How freque

RE: Sprinklers protecting openings

2017-07-20 Thread Matt Grise
Is this a fire wall that splits one structure? I assume when you say ‘top of the wall’ there is a roof/ceiling up there? Have you thought about an automatic fire door? I see those a lot in warehouses. Matt From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf O

Re: Sprinklers protecting openings

2017-07-20 Thread Travis Mack
FM has some guidance on this. I have only seen them done as a deluge system and spray nozzles. I have done 4 or 5 in the last year or so. Travis Mack, SET MFP Design, LLC "Follow" us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/MFP-Design-LLC/92218417692 Send large files to MFP Design via: https

Sprinklers protecting openings

2017-07-20 Thread fpdcdesign
I may have referenced this before, but now this is turning into a job, so i need to get serious. Two 8x8 openings in a 18 ft high wall separating 2 buildings. FM and insurance company want water curtain on each side of the wall. The top of the wall is 10 ft above the openings. My thought w

Re: Obsolete Central A-1 Adjustable Dry Pendent Sprinklers

2017-07-20 Thread Wyse, Chuck
During the VRP time frame, Central provided new cast bell housing assemblies and new 1 1/4" DS-1 (non -adjustable) dry sprinklers with a tailshaft that threaded directly into the bell housing. As we all know, the utilization of bushings traps water and defeats the purpose of the dry sprinkler.

Re: Obsolete Central A-1 Adjustable Dry Pendent Sprinklers

2017-07-20 Thread rongreenman .
There is nothing "right" in this. The Central fitting is part of a listed assembly so only listed with all it's parts. It's not a standard pipe fitting so it would need to be listed separately. The assembly itself was recalled so You can't use a bushing in a standard Tee when installing a dry p

Re: Obsolete Central A-1 Adjustable Dry Pendent Sprinklers

2017-07-20 Thread Wyse, Chuck
I take it the original A-1 adjustable had been replaced with a suitable DS-1 replacement? The thread on the bottom of the original A-1 cast bell housings are not NPT. I believe they are fine machine thread. It should also be noted that the bushing should not be installed in the housing, if it

Re: CAD drawings

2017-07-20 Thread Joe Burtell
I use Print2CAD and it works fairly well for the most part. http://www.backtocad.com/pdf-to-dwg-converter.html Best regards, *Joe Burtell, SET, CFPS* [image: Burtell Fire_Small] Phone | Fax | Mobile| Text *406-545-0784 <++1-406-545-0784>* 116 N. 11th Street | Billings, MT 59101 Email: j...

Obsolete Central A-1 Adjustable Dry Pendent Sprinklers

2017-07-20 Thread Bobby McCullough
Had a service call to repair leaks on dry system and found part of obsolete Central A-1 Adjustable Dry Pendent sprinkler recently modified. The original "special cast iron fitting" was in place and a new dry pendent installed into this cast fitting. 1" male NPT from the side of the cast fitting t