Re: Always something new ... Dry hydrant?

2018-11-02 Thread Bruce Verhei
Normally I assume fire department plans to operate with soft suction at positive connection pressure. I wouldn’t here. I know everyone hates meetings. I think one is necessary. It would be possible to have at least three different conceptions of project basics. If FD plans on using hard

Re: corridors and residential sprinklers

2018-11-02 Thread Jamie Seidl
If protecting a corridor with residential sprinklers, I have always calculated 4. If protecting with standard spray, 5. Jamie ___ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org

RE: Always something new ... Dry hydrant?

2018-11-02 Thread Ed Kramer
For the venting requirement, NFPA 22 section 4.15 will provide some guidance. Ed K From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of John Irwin Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 7:16 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Always

RE: Always something new ... Dry hydrant?

2018-11-02 Thread John Irwin
Matt, The tanks are 16.5' tall and the outlet is 6" from the base. This is going to result in positive pressure at the pump inlet. What I wonder is if I can get 784 gallons from those (4) 3" outlets. Also, I agree that tanks need venting, but is there direction on how much venting? What

RE: Always something new ... Dry hydrant?

2018-11-02 Thread Matt Grise
It might be a good idea to perform a hydraulic analysis to see how much water can be drawn through those 3" outlets. The pump that the FD is using likely has minimum supply pressure (1/2psi or so). If you need (x) psi at the pump suction flange, and you have (y) psi at the tank discharge (from

Always something new ... Dry hydrant?

2018-11-02 Thread John Irwin
Ok so here's something new for me ... the situation ... Client has a client who is using a temporary, tent structure for storage. And right now they are using mobile fracing water containers to supply what I assume would be classified as a dry hydrant. The fire marshal wants something a little