Re: Cartoned Group A Plastics

AS indicated this is NOT the definition for cartoned. It is the allowance to reduce the commodity classification based on this particular type of carton. Roland Roland Huggins, PE - Senior VP Engineering American Fire Sprinkler Assn. Dallas, TX http://www.firesprinkler.org

RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: Antifreeze temperature requirements

Here’s a chart that might help. https://www.captiveaire.com/catalogcontent/fans/sup_mpu/doc/winter_summer_design_temps_us.pdf Craig Prahl | Jacobs | Group Lead – Fire Protection | 864.676.5252 | craig.pr...@jacobs.com | www.jacobs.com From

RE: Cartoned Group A Plastics

Found it: Note: Cartons that contain Group A plastic material are permitted to be treated as Class IV commodities under the following conditions: (1) There are multiple layers of corrugation or equivalent outer material that would significantly delay fire involvement of the Group A plastic. Th

RE: Cartoned Group A Plastics

Looking back to 2010, the definition is unchanged. Maybe it was an insurance requirement or something you are thinking. Travis Mack, CFPS, CWBSP, RME-G, SET MFP Design, LLC 3356 E Vallejo Ct Gilbert, AZ 85298 480-505-9271 fax: 866-430-6107

RE: Cartoned Group A Plastics

I see the “cartooned” in the storage definitions but it looks like: A. it has changed, B. the double corrugation requirement has been removed, or C. the definition isn’t in Chapter 3. Thank You *Mark E. Eckard SET* *Fire Protection Services, LLC* 2126 US Hwy. 41 North Perry, GA 31069 O

RE: Cartoned Group A Plastics

When needing definitions, Chap 3 of the 2016 is where you want to start. 3.9.1.1 gives your definition of Cartoned. Travis Mack, CFPS, CWBSP, RME-G, SET MFP Design, LLC 3356 E Vallejo Ct Gilbert, AZ 85298 480-505-9271 fax: 866-430-6107

Cartoned Group A Plastics

I seem to remember the definition of Cartoned when it comes to storage of Plastics saying the “carton was constructed of double layer corrugated card board. I am having trouble locating this info. Isn’t this correct? Where will I find this in the 2016 NFPA-13? Thank You *Mark E. Eckard SET*

RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: Antifreeze temperature requirements

Yes. It is just a mean temperature to use. Are we to use the 100 yr lowest recorded temp? 50 yr? Just lowest in recorded history? Maybe Ice Age temps? 😊 Travis Mack, CFPS, CWBSP, RME-G, SET MFP Design, LLC 3356 E Vallejo Ct Gilbert, AZ 85298 480-505-9271

Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: Antifreeze temperature requirements

The problem with that is that it is a mean temperature map set up for underground mains. In my area it shows about 3degreesF. We had several temperatures below zero this season. Not sure if that is applicable for above ground pipe. Todd G Williams, PE Fire Protection Desi

RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: Antifreeze temperature requirements

Chap 10 in NFPA 13 2016 has the isothermal lines. Long ago, I was directed by one of the national organizations to use this map for determining temperatures for freeze protection. Travis Mack, CFPS, CWBSP, RME-G, SET MFP Design, LLC 3356 E Vallejo Ct Gilbert

RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: Antifreeze temperature requirements

Being from Pennsylvania I consult with Punxsutawney Phil. Mike Stossel SET [400dpiLogoCropped] 36 Barren Road East Stroudsburg, PA 18302 Office: 973-670-2627 m...@knssprinkler.com From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Kyle.Montgomery Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 1:51

RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: Antifreeze temperature requirements

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RE: Antifreeze temperature requirements

Todd, NOAH should be able to help with that information. Regards, G. Tim Stone G. Tim Stone Consulting, LLC NICET Level III Engineering Technician Fire Protection Sprinkler Design and Consulting Services 117 Old Stage Rd. - Essex Jct., VT. 05452 CELL: (802) 373-0638 TEL: (

Antifreeze temperature requirements

Yes, I’m using the “A” word. I have a client that is asking be about using the new Tyco antifreeze solution for a project. Reading through the literature, it states that it is not good for temperatures below -10F. My question is where do we find information to determine what is the p

Re: Poly pipe spacers

Probably this: https://ebaa.com/documents/submittal-packages/EBAA-Wedge

Re: Poly pipe spacers

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Poly pipe spacers

There used to be a company that would custom make a plastic or poly wedge shaped flange spacer that could be used to straighten out crooked risers. Can't think of their name, but I think they were in Texas. Anybody know the name? Mike Wisneski, SET Senior Fire Protection Specialist Fire Sprinkle