[Sprinklerforum] Re: Control/Sectioning Valves

2023-08-16 Thread Steve Leyton
You’re right, that’s the branch in the assessment tree. I’m 110%, unequivocally on the side of #2, presuming there isn’t a charging code requirement as alluded to in the covered mall building example. Creating a series of smaller tenant-specific systems, each with their own flow/tamper swit

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Control/Sectioning Valves

2023-08-16 Thread Kyle . Montgomery
But, (and I’m deliberately being the devil’s advocate here), which is worse: 1. 10 individual valves controlling small areas, any one of which could be closed when it shouldn’t be? 2. 1 valve controlling the entire area, but which has to be shut each time work is done in any of the 10 sma

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Control/Sectioning Valves

2023-08-16 Thread Steve Leyton
I don't know for sure what the actual numbers are, and it's widely accepted that a lot of fire incidents are under-reported or not reported in detail to the extent that nuance or extenuating circumstances are accurately reflected. That said, NFPA has been relying on rough numbers for several y

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Control/Sectioning Valves

2023-08-16 Thread Mike Morey
Your example is actually a building code requirement in most cases. "Covered mall buildings" have to have all tenant spaces valved separately etc. It's covered in 914.2 in the 2018 edition, and some form of that language goes back quite a ways in the code. Outside of that you'd be talking abo

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Control/Sectioning Valves

2023-08-16 Thread Hinson, Ryan
This is the premise of yard system reliability per NFPA 24 where isolation of one section cannot shut down more than six appurtenances/systems at a time. Ryan L. Hinson, PE*, SET** \ Burns & McDonnell Associate Fire Protection Engineer O 612-900-3755 \ M 763-688-4045 \ F 952-229-2923 rhin...@

[Sprinklerforum] Control/Sectioning Valves

2023-08-16 Thread Brian Harris
Is there anything inherently wrong with installing control valves within a system to isolate certain areas? Say for instance you have a strip mall fed from one system and you want to add control valves within that system to isolate certain stores without interrupting service to the rest. I under