Re: [EXTERNAL] Anybody hit this wall?

2020-02-17 Thread AKS-Gmail-IMAP via Sprinklerforum
;mailto:craig.pr...@jacobs.com> | www.jacobs.com > <http://www.jacobs.com/> > 1041 East Butler Road Greenville, South Carolina 29606 > > From: Vince Sabolik > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2020 1:32 PM > To: Prahl, Craig/GVL ; > sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkle

RE: [EXTERNAL] Anybody hit this wall?

2020-02-17 Thread Prahl, Craig/GVL via Sprinklerforum
Butler Road Greenville, South Carolina 29606 From: Vince Sabolik Sent: Monday, February 17, 2020 1:32 PM To: Prahl, Craig/GVL ; sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Anybody hit this wall? Thanks, Craig - First, I'm not going to consult here; I avoid consulting f

Re: [EXTERNAL] Anybody hit this wall?

2020-02-17 Thread Vince Sabolik via Sprinklerforum
South Carolina  29606 *From:*Sprinklerforum *On Behalf Of *Vince Sabolik via Sprinklerforum *Sent:* Monday, February 17, 2020 11:54 AM *To:* sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org *Cc:* Vince Sabolik *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Anybody hit this wall? Good morning Forum - This is a new one on me. A

RE: [EXTERNAL] Anybody hit this wall?

2020-02-17 Thread Prahl, Craig/GVL via Sprinklerforum
rinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Vince Sabolik Subject: [EXTERNAL] Anybody hit this wall? Good morning Forum - This is a new one on me. A building with two Use Groups, H4, S2 is separated by a wall and is fully sprinklered per NFPA. Does the separating wall need to be rated? -- [cid:

Re: Anybody hit this wall?

2020-02-17 Thread Fpdcdesign via Sprinklerforum
Scot beat me to it. It is a Code issue and the AHJ and the insurance company will have input. If it is not your expertise, keep away from it. There may also be restrictions on pipe penetrations as well. Todd G Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington,

Re: Anybody hit this wall?

2020-02-17 Thread Vince Sabolik via Sprinklerforum
Thanks Scot ... a great example of why I'm not an architect. Could the rating be 3 hr WITH sprinkler? On 2/17/2020 11:56 AM, å... via Sprinklerforum wrote: Building code resolves, by height & area limits, construction type, etc.  H-areas by definition, usually have rated walls. Scot

Re: Anybody hit this wall?

2020-02-17 Thread å . . . . . . . via Sprinklerforum
Building code resolves, by height & area limits, construction type, etc. H-areas by definition, usually have rated walls. Scot Deal On Mon, Feb 17, 2020, 8:53 AM Vince Sabolik via Sprinklerforum < sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote: > Good morning Forum - > > This is a new one on me.

Anybody hit this wall?

2020-02-17 Thread Vince Sabolik via Sprinklerforum
Good morning Forum - This is a new one on me. A building with two Use Groups, H4, S2 is separated by a wall and is fully sprinklered per NFPA. Does the separating wall need to be rated? -- 11351 Pearl Road /  Suite 101 Strongsville, Ohio 44136 Phone 440 238-4800 Fax 440 238-4876Cell 440

RE: [EXTERNAL] Anybody?

2019-11-20 Thread Kerschner, Philip via Sprinklerforum
] Anybody? So it’s determined by testing the specific orifice, I kind of figured that. Do you (or anybody on the forum) know of a good way to estimate what the approximate Cd would be for an orifice? We’re sometimes asked to estimate what the discharge would be through an open orifice of unknown

RE: [EXTERNAL] Anybody?

2019-11-20 Thread Kyle.Montgomery via Sprinklerforum
So it’s determined by testing the specific orifice, I kind of figured that. Do you (or anybody on the forum) know of a good way to estimate what the approximate Cd would be for an orifice? We’re sometimes asked to estimate what the discharge would be through an open orifice of unknown

RE: [EXTERNAL] Anybody?

2019-11-20 Thread Kerschner, Philip via Sprinklerforum
R 215 446 0380 From: Kyle.Montgomery Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 11:22 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org; vi...@wtfp.net; Prahl, Craig/GVL Cc: Kerschner, Philip Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Anybody? Phil, In the case of the 5.6k sprinkler you reference below, how

RE: [EXTERNAL] Anybody?

2019-11-20 Thread Kyle.Montgomery via Sprinklerforum
...@wtfp.net; Prahl, Craig/GVL ; sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Kerschner, Philip Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Anybody? There has always been a K factor in the sense that: Q=K*sqrt(P) is the same as Q=29.83*Cd*(d^2)*sqrt(p) The K factor is equal to [29.83*Cd*(d^2)] Where Cd is the discharge

RE: [EXTERNAL] Anybody?

2019-11-20 Thread Kerschner, Philip via Sprinklerforum
: [EXTERNAL] Anybody? Craig (and others) - Thank you so much! After I posted I realized that I had a copy of Clyde Woods' "Hydraulic Data For Automatic Sprinkler Systems". It refers to discharge tables from the 30s & 40s. So there was the "K factor", at least for

RE: [EXTERNAL] Anybody?

2019-11-18 Thread Prahl, Craig/GVL via Sprinklerforum
Sabolik via Sprinklerforum Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 1:27 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Vince Sabolik Subject: [EXTERNAL] Anybody? Good afternoon, Forum - Has anyone ever run into a head spacing pattern called "bay & beam"? and... bonus round Were he

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2019-11-18 Thread Matthew J Willis via Sprinklerforum
No, could be a slang based on location.. And no, I don’t think so as K is a function of calcs? R/ Matt From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Vince Sabolik via Sprinklerforum Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 11:27 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Vince Sabolik Subject: Anybody

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2019-11-18 Thread Tim Stone via Sprinklerforum
<mailto:tston...@comcast.net> tston...@comcast.net From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Vince Sabolik via Sprinklerforum Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 1:27 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Vince Sabolik Subject: Anybody? Good afternoon, Forum - Has anyone ev

Anybody?

2019-11-18 Thread Vince Sabolik via Sprinklerforum
Good afternoon, Forum - Has anyone ever run into a head spacing pattern called "bay & beam"? and... bonus round Were heads before 1953 associated with a K-value? -- 11351 Pearl Road /  Suite 101 Strongsville, Ohio 44136 Phone 440 238-4800 Fax 440 238-4876Cell 440 724-7601 / Vince Sabolik /

anybody out there?

2008-08-26 Thread Todd Williams - FPDC
Was it something I said? Todd G. Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, Connecticut www.fpdc.com 860.535.2080 ___ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org

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2008-08-26 Thread Roland Huggins
It's the way you type Roland On Aug 26, 2008, at 4:19 AM, Todd Williams - FPDC wrote: Was it something I said? Todd G. Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, Connecticut www.fpdc.com 860.535.2080 ___ Sprinklerforum mailing list

RE: anybody out there?

2008-08-26 Thread Craig.Prahl
we're all at the beach on vacation, sorry. catch ya when we get back.. Craig L. Prahl, CET Fire Protection Group Mechanical Department CH2MHILL Lockwood Greene 1500 International Drive PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 Direct - 864.599.4102 Fax - 864.599.8439 [EMAIL PROTECTED]