in the report.
Bobby McCullough
Atlanta Sprinkler Inspection
From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org on behalf of John
Drucker
Sent: Fri 9/18/2009 1:18 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Chewable topic.Omegas
Barry, Pete,
I'm
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Subject: RE: Chewable topic.Omegas
Regarding the code or standard on which you base the inspection, I'm
speaking from my understanding of Georgia regulations and the inspection
being done from the applicable portions of NFPA 25, 2002. The Inspector
(NICET
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Subject: RE: Chewable topic.Omegas
I haven't been following this thread closely. I am not sure if this has
been mentioned or not. IFC 2006 reads as follows.
901.9 Recall of fire protection components. Any fire protection system
component regulated
: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org on behalf of John Drucker
Sent: Fri 9/18/2009 1:18 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Chewable topic.Omegas
Barry, Pete,
I'm in the process of looking up the exact statutes however it goes without
saying that a certified
message from
Paul Johnson
Bardane, Inc.
407-399-5081 - Wireless
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From: Ron Greenman rongreen...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 15:06:27
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Re: Chewable topic.Omegas
An issue like this came up yesterday. say a fully
...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Forest
Wilson
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 5:22 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Chewable topic.Omegas
Some states, such as Illinois and Florida require copies of Inspection
Reports to be sent to the AHJ.
If the owner gets upset because the Fire
: Chewable topic.Omegas
While we're sharing jurisdiction info,
As adopted by the NJ Uniform Fire Code, N.J.A.C. 5:70-3, 901.9 901.6.2
901.9 Recall of fire protection components.
Any fire protection system component regulated by this code that is the
subject of a voluntary or mandatory
: Friday, September 18, 2009 10:32 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: FW: Chewable topic.Omegas
While we're sharing jurisdiction info,
As adopted by the NJ Uniform Fire Code, N.J.A.C. 5:70-3, 901.9 901.6.2
901.9 Recall of fire protection components.
Any fire protection system
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Larrimer,
Peter A (CEOSH)
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 10:41 AM
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Subject: RE: Chewable topic.Omegas
That's great John, the way
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Subject: RE: Chewable topic.Omegas
The liabilities we ITM contractors can inadvertently inherit are HUGE and
especially so when you look at the minimal amount of revenue we get for
taking on this risk.
The #25 committee has done a good job of understanding and limiting it for
us
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The liabilities we ITM contractors can inadvertently inherit are HUGE
and
especially so when you look at the minimal amount of revenue we get for
taking on this risk.
The #25 committee has done a good job of understanding
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Subject: RE: Chewable topic.Omegas
The Inspection Forms from the NFSA have a section for noting recalled
components.
I note them and send a certified letter, copying the Fire Marshal.
There is a moral obligation to report recalled heads and what point is
there in doing a main drain test
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Chewable topic.Omegas
I haven't been following this thread closely. I am not sure if this has
been mentioned or not. IFC 2006 reads as follows.
901.9 Recall of fire protection components. Any fire protection system
component regulated by this code
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Chewable topic.Omegas
The Inspection Forms from the NFSA have a section for noting recalled
components.
I note them and send a certified letter, copying the Fire Marshal.
There is a moral obligation to report recalled heads and what point
G:
I would be the contractor you replaced for the stores your doing. I may not
have done it in the same way he did, I'd notify the owner, and make him
aware of his responsibility to notify the AHJ and I'd do it in writing. Then
after a week or ten days I'd copy the AHJ. This gave the owner time
Protection Co. at 888-347-3079 toll
free.
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From: George Church for...@ptd.net
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Sent: Fri, Sep 18, 2009 1:28 pm
Subject: RE: Chewable topic.Omegas
Apples and oranges.
I mentioned the Star dry pendent recall to a (cheap) nursing home
Thom, that's EXACTLY how I'd do it.
glc
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Thom McMahon
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 1:29 PM
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Forest Wilson
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 1:46 PM
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If you go to the CPSC website, and search star dry
I walked into a school to do a small consulting job regarding
obstructions and discovered that they still had Omega sprinklers
installed. (My immediate sarcastic reaction was that since there is a
good chance the Omegas may not work, do the drain pipes really cause
an obstruction?) How many of
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Chewable topic.Omegas
I walked into a school to do a small consulting job regarding
obstructions and discovered that they still had Omega sprinklers
installed. (My immediate sarcastic reaction was that since there is a
good chance the Omegas may
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Todd Williams
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 8:08 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Chewable topic.Omegas
I walked into a school to do a small
: Chewable topic.Omegas
I walked into a school to do a small consulting job regarding
obstructions and discovered that they still had Omega sprinklers
installed. (My immediate sarcastic reaction was that since there is a
good chance the Omegas may not work, do the drain pipes really cause
Oh, I've had the pleasure! (12 years of it)... Can't believe they did either!
Jamie Seidl
If
you ever have the pleasure of working in Raleigh, you will know why that is.
-Ben
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...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Ben Young
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 10:00 AM
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Subject: Re: Chewable topic.Omegas
When I worked in Raleigh, we pulled some out of the basement of a church
downtown. This was during a renovation of the basement space to turn
: Chewable topic.Omegas
For a small company we find them often enough. Maybe a new site every
couple weeks. Then there are a bunch of regulars that elected not to
replace.
Chris Cahill, P.E.
Fire Protection Engineer
Sentry Fire Protection, Inc.
763-658-4483
763-658-4921 fax
Email: chr
david.au...@nebraska.gov
Subject: RE: Chewable topic.Omegas
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Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 10:11 AM
If I remember correctly, the Omegas wouldn't open at 7 psi. The one I set off
from my collection seems to stick
: Chewable topic.Omegas
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Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 10:11 AM
If I remember correctly, the Omegas wouldn't open at 7 psi. The one I set
off from my collection seems to stick on the o-ring, but otherwise worked
fine
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Subject: RE: Chewable topic.Omegas
Yes, there are still plenty of Omegas and the other Central o-ring
sprinklers out there.
Tested new, they are supposed to open at 5 psi; used ones like the 50
year old samples sent to UL are supposed to operate at 7 psi. Among
the o-ring
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Subject: RE: Chewable topic.Omegas
Yes, there are still plenty of Omegas and the other Central o-ring
sprinklers out there.
Tested new, they are supposed to open at 5 psi; used ones like the 50 year
old samples sent to UL are supposed to operate at 7 psi. Among the o-ring
...@freedomfirepro.com**
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of David de Vries
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 2:29 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Chewable topic.Omegas
Once more we are put in the position of Sprinkler Police for the fire
marshal and fire inspectors by the IFC. If we report Omega installations to
the fire marshal, how happy is the owner with us? If we simply tell the
owner he is supposed to tell the fire marshal, and he doesn't what liability
by reply email or by calling Cherokee Fire Protection Co. at
888-347-3079 toll free.
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From: Thom McMahon tmcma...@firetechinc.com
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Sent: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 14:48:53 -0600
Subject: RE: Chewable topic.Omegas
Once more we are put
[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Forest Wilson
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 5:22 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Chewable topic.Omegas
Some states, such as Illinois and Florida require copies of Inspection
Reports to be sent to the AHJ.
If the owner
We did 14 DMR funded group residences that we've been testing for 6 years
now 2 summers ago.
Come to find out, some slickster notified them of the recall, got them to
fund the cost of replacing them to him up front being assured tyco would
reimburse them and ran with the money. Really nice. We
was
done on a timely basis.
Douglas Hicks
General Fire Equipment co of Eastern Oregon, Inc
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From: David de Vries ddevr...@firetecheng.net
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Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 1:29 PM
Subject: RE: Chewable topic.Omegas
Yes
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Re: Chewable topic.Omegas
And I still have one hospital that has had at least 2 remodels since I
informed them of the ME-1 recall 5 years ago. But we are gaining, last
year
we replaced all of the ME 1 in a day care and the year before, we replace
plate for later down
the road.
J
From: jack.kila...@sg.rsagroup.com jack.kila...@sg.rsagroup.com
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Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 6:50:19 PM
Subject: Re: Chewable topic.Omegas
Sometimes you can not insist as you know you
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