: RE: NFPA 13R Question
NFPA 13R very specifically exempts combustible concealed spaces from
protected areas in buildings to which the standard is applicable.
Concealed space provisions are widely interpreted differently, including
and especially where you have non-dwelling unit areas where
happened
yet.
Bruce
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Subject: RE: NFPA 13R Question
Fire burning up from the patio, and then progressively up
they haven't happened
yet.
Bruce
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From: Bruce Verhei bver...@comcast.net
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Fire burning up from the patio
In the 2002 edition 6.8.5 states ... and other concealed spaces that
are not used or intended for living purposes or storage and do not
contain fuel-fired equipment. Meaning that if fuel fired appliances are
located in a crawl space below the main occupancy (as an example) then
sprinklers are
My take is that it says at least one is over the heater it does not say
that the rest of the space is not sprinklered. We would require the entire
space to be sprinklered with at least one sprinkler directly above the unit.
Norm
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Smith, Steven D. (CSFD)
I'd like to hear from a committee member but I'd guess that the change was
to eliminate this interpretation of needing to sprinkler the entire
unoccupied space merely because a single piece of equipment is present. I
looked for the ROP to see the justification statement but couldn't find
anything.
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Steve Leyton
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 2:57 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org; Sheila Gabler
Subject: RE: NFPA 13R Question
Sheila:
Unless there is some provision in the applicable code for exception of
sprinkler protection
Concur with the below BUT (and its a big one), 13R is going through a
big evolution on this issue. As Steve stated, whether or not to
protect different PORTIONS of a building is a code decision. NFPA 13
and 13R historically have disagreed with this position but they are
learning that
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Roland Huggins
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 10:57 AM
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Concur with the below
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of David Blackwell
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 11:46 AM
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Agreed. Thanks for the heads-up on the proposed changes.
The NFPA standards cannot
We have run into a situation where we are designing an NFPA 13R (2002 code)
fire suppression system for a 3 storey residential building of combustible
construction where there is parking on the first storey for 7 cars that is
covered by second floor suites but is otherwise open to air.
The
[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Sheila
Gabler
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 11:50 AM
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Subject: NFPA 13R Question
We have run into a situation where we are designing an NFPA 13R (2002
code) fire suppression system for a 3 storey
Subject: RE: NFPA 13R Question
Sheila:
Unless there is some provision in the applicable code for exception of
sprinkler protection in this area, I believe this would fall into the
category of areas outside of dwelling units, and is required to be
protected by NFPA 13 (as stated in 13R). The NFPA
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