Re: Residential sprinklers in sloped ceiling over 8/12 pitch

2008-06-12 Thread Todd Williams - FPDC
This is a tough one. For 13D systems, I usually propose to calc 3 sprinklers instead of two and the AHJs have so far gone along. I can only think of one 13R system where that applied. The AHJ on that one went along with using the head requirements for the maximum pitch (I think the pitch was

Re: Residential sprinklers in sloped ceiling over 8/12 pitch

2008-06-12 Thread Ron Greenman
I can think of a few things. Since we're doing a 0.05 density we could go up to 0.06 or 0.07 at the maximum spacing (15x14 actual equals 16x16) kind of like FM degrades the co-efficient for hydrant outlets relative to NFPA. We could go up one area so if we'd normally be using the psi/gpm numbers

RE: Residential sprinklers in sloped ceiling over 8/12 pitch

2008-06-12 Thread herb
Dave In every instance we have to do a 3 head calc when there are at least 3 heads in the room where the steep pitched roof is (over 8:12). We've also had to use the UL listed flow required for the head up to 8:12 pitched ceilings which is 18gpm per head. These homes are also usually large homes

RE: Residential sprinklers in sloped ceiling over 8/12 pitch

2008-06-12 Thread Thom McMahon
Three AHJ's all different all 13D. #1 Requires 2 head calc for all homes under 5000 Sf @ 0.05 Requires 3 head calc over 5000 Sf @ 0.05 Requires 4 head calc for over 8/12 any size, also 0.10, also only recessed heads (He will accept recessed heads that are not listed for up to 8/12, but will not

Re: Residential sprinklers in sloped ceiling over 8/12 pitch

2008-06-12 Thread Ron Greenman
I like AHJ number three since he's not guess engineering. The more is better/save the building with a guess tweaked life safety system design is the second biggest deterrent (after the water guys and their 4 minimum residential lead-ins and the $14K one inch tap fees--my personal favorite although