Re: Unconnected sprinklers

2016-04-12 Thread Forest Wilson
Besides a false impression upon building occupants (many of whom don't notice sprinklers anyway), one must consider false impressions upon first responders or insurance agents. On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 6:39 AM, Frans Stoop wrote: > Gentlemen, > > Thank you very much. > I overlooked the phrase NFP

Re: Unconnected sprinklers

2016-04-12 Thread Frans Stoop
Gentlemen, Thank you very much. I overlooked the phrase NFPA 1 and NFPA 101 and the Annexes. In particular the Annex is very clear. The IFC does not apply in our country, but I will use the quoted phrase to emphasize that it is common practice in our profession to avoid a false impression of s

Re: Unconnected sprinklers

2016-04-11 Thread AKS-Gmail-IMAP
Eventually, we all run into this construction cart-before-the-horse phasing situation where you just cannot say no to the client. Once, using the defense that those observing fire sprinklers who would know what a fire sprinkler looks like in order to perceive a space as being protected by fire p

Re: Unconnected sprinklers

2016-04-11 Thread Morey, Mike
on is raised if it is written in the NFPA or FM that > unconnected sprinklers are not allowed. > Unfortunately, I can't find it. > Another suggestion was to put a sign on the door to each room saying > "Sprinklers not functional". > > Met vriendelijke groet/Kind regards,

RE: Unconnected sprinklers

2016-04-11 Thread Fox, Duane T. (FireMarshal)
2-856-5298 -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Karen Lesko Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 11:18 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: Unconnected sprinklers The Life Safety Code does say &quo

Re: Unconnected sprinklers

2016-04-11 Thread Karen Lesko
being, to avoid a false suggestion of safety. Now the question is raised if it is written in the NFPA or FM that unconnected sprinklers are not allowed. Unfortunately, I can't find it. Another suggestion was to put a sign on the door to each room saying "Sprinklers not functional". Met v

RE: Unconnected sprinklers

2016-04-11 Thread Foster, Ed
. Ed Foster Fire Marshal -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Frans Stoop Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 3:48 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Unconnected sprinklers Gentlemen, Is it written

Re: Unconnected sprinklers

2016-04-11 Thread Todd Williams
if it is written in the NFPA or FM that unconnected sprinklers are not allowed. Unfortunately, I can't find it. Another suggestion was to put a sign on the door to each room saying "Sprinklers not functional". Met vriendelijke groet/Kind regards, Frans Stoop Riskonet B.V. Sing

Unconnected sprinklers

2016-04-11 Thread Frans Stoop
the NFPA or FM that unconnected sprinklers are not allowed. Unfortunately, I can't find it. Another suggestion was to put a sign on the door to each room saying "Sprinklers not functional". Met vriendelijke groet/Kind regards, Frans Stoop Riskonet B.V. Singel 540, 1017AZ, Amste