RE: Chubb Insurance Company Fall 2012 Hands On Fire Protection Seminars

2012-08-02 Thread George Church
Liberty Mutual offers similar, on behalf of Mr. Hague who has contributed much to the advancement of NFPA standards in his career. And you don't have to go to NJ! :) George L. Church, Jr., CET   Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc. PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842 877-324-ROWE   570-837-6335 fax

NFPA 25 inspection of sprinklers with heat collector plates installed

2012-08-02 Thread Gregg Key
Forum, if you were inspecting a building and found some pendant sprinklers with the heat collectors installed, would you write it up as a deficiency and why? Many moons ago they were accepted but later research proved they did not work. C.Gregg Key, SET Key Fire Protection Services,Inc

RE: NFPA 25 inspection of sprinklers with heat collector plates installed

2012-08-02 Thread Steve Leyton
Yes, because those plates have been shown to slow sprinkler response. Steve Leyton -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Gregg Key Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 9:23 AM To:

Re: NFPA 25 inspection of sprinklers with heat collector plates installed

2012-08-02 Thread Ron Greenman
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2012-08-02 Thread Ron Greenman
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2012-08-02 Thread Steve Leyton
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RE: NFPA 25 inspection of sprinklers with heat collector plates installed

2012-08-02 Thread Cahill, Christopher
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2012-08-02 Thread Ron Greenman
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2012-08-02 Thread Ron Greenman
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RE: NFPA 25 inspection of sprinklers with heat collector plates installed

2012-08-02 Thread Steve Leyton
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2012-08-02 Thread Steve Leyton
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Re: NFPA 25 inspection of sprinklers with heat collector plates installed

2012-08-02 Thread Ron Greenman
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2012-08-02 Thread Top Myers
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RE: NFPA 25 inspection of sprinklers with heat collector plates installed

2012-08-02 Thread Brad Casterline
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Re: NFPA 25 - Lawyers PE's

2012-08-02 Thread ACCENTFIRE
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RE: sprinkler head quick cut off tool

2012-08-02 Thread Matt Mueller
I should have clarified that this was during time spent in the fire service, so yes - fire resistant gloves and full nomex bunker gear. Matthew Mueller Metropolitan Fire Protection 175 Gordon St Elk Grove Village Illinois, 60007 P 847.758.9820 F 847.758.9822 C 847.602.3576 -Original

RE: NFPA 25 inspection of sprinklers with heat collector plates installed

2012-08-02 Thread Brad Casterline
http://www.hss.doe.gov/SESA/Analysis/oesummary/oesummary2002/oe2002-20.pdf here's one. -Original Message- From: Brad Casterline [mailto:bcasterl...@fsc-inc.com] Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 1:26 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: NFPA 25 inspection of sprinklers

RE: NFPA 25 inspection of sprinklers with heat collector plates installed

2012-08-02 Thread Rod DiBona
Thanks Brad that was interesting. Rod at Rapid -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Brad Casterline Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 12:52 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: NFPA

RE: NFPA 25 inspection of sprinklers with heat collector plates installed

2012-08-02 Thread Brad Casterline
You're welcome. Did you read the full document (the link at the bottom)? Whomever says 'this aint rocket science' is right. Our jobs would be a lot easier if all we had to know is Newton's Third Law ;) -Original Message- From: Rod DiBona [mailto:r...@rapidfireinc.com] Sent: Thursday,

Re: NFPA 25 inspection of sprinklers with heat collector plates installed

2012-08-02 Thread Mike Cabral
The heat collector shown looks like a product mfg by ASCOA which was intended for use with HAD's for Supertex Systems. I think the product was listed for the application however not intended for sprinklers only for HAD's . I assume same principals would apply to a HAD as a sprinkler. ASCOA

Re: NFPA 25 inspection of sprinklers with heat collector plates installed

2012-08-02 Thread Ron Greenman
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RE: NFPA 25 inspection of sprinklers with heat collector plates installed

2012-08-02 Thread Brad Casterline
Potter Roemer had one in their catalog years ago we nicknamed dust pan, I THINK it was U.L. listed. I guess if these things were at least 48.01 wide and we called them a duct, they would be required, not frowned on! -Original Message- From: Mike Cabral [mailto:cabralm...@rocketmail.com]