Ventilation for diesel driven fire pump room

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Re: Ventilation for diesel driven fire pump room

2012-08-24 Thread Sprinkler Forum
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RE: Ventilation for diesel driven fire pump room

2012-08-24 Thread George Church
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Re: Ventilation for diesel driven fire pump room

2012-08-24 Thread Sprinkler Forum
Oh and as far as determining the size of the ventilation opening. After you have found your CFM you should be able to use the equation Q= 2610 x A x squareroot (delta P) Or I guess, rearranged for the area you are looking for is A= (Q/(2610 x squareroot(delta P))) The variables are: Q= to

RE: Ventilation for diesel driven fire pump room

2012-08-24 Thread Bill Brooks
I've consulted with Tigerflow in the past on projects requiring standalone fire pump enclosures. They ship worldwide and I'm sure they would accept a phone call to discuss this if you do not have access to a mechanical engineer (HVAC type) who does this routinely. As others have noted the engine

RE: Ventilation for diesel driven fire pump room

2012-08-24 Thread Bill Brooks
Google search result for combustion air requirements diesel engine http://www.cumminsfirepower.com/documents/ES027_ventilation.pdf Bill Brooks William N. Brooks, P.E. Brooks Fire Protection Engineering Inc. 372 Wilett Drive Severna Park, MD 21146-1904 410-544-3620 410-544-3032 FAX 412-400-6528

Supervised vales in pump room

2012-08-24 Thread RFletcher
Here is an easy one for Friday. Is there a general requirement that all valves in a pump room be supervised? I am wondering about the valves in a flow meter loop that are normally closed. Ron Fletcher Aero - Phoenix ___ Sprinklerforum mailing list

Re: Supervised vales in pump room

2012-08-24 Thread Aaron Peck
There are valves that are wired for normally closed but you can switch the wires on a regular valve around but it won't go into supervisory in the number of turns required per code. On my jobs, all with the same AHJ, we always either swap the wires and lock them open, or just lock them only.

RE: Supervised vales in pump room

2012-08-24 Thread Morey, Mike
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RE: Supervised vales in pump room

2012-08-24 Thread Cahill, Christopher
The phrasing is to the effect supply water to systems. If it's normally closed it can't be a supply and wouldn't need supervision. Similar to jockey pump valve, they don't feed the systems during a fire. For example IFC 903.4 Sprinkler system supervision and alarms. All valves controlling the

RE: Supervised vales in pump room

2012-08-24 Thread Morey, Mike
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RE: Supervised vales in pump room

2012-08-24 Thread RFletcher
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RE: Supervised vales in pump room

2012-08-24 Thread Morey, Mike
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RE: Remote Area Question

2012-08-24 Thread Brad Casterline
Roland, as I have said before, I like being right, but I love being corrected when I am not :). I think you are right and I am wrong regarding the interpretation of the referenced section. I think there are problems with the referenced section though (i.e. configuration instead of system perhaps,

RE: Supervised vales in pump room

2012-08-24 Thread RFletcher
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RE: Remote Area Question

2012-08-24 Thread RFletcher
On anything but a straight forward gridded system I always tell designers they don't find the remote area they create it. Ron Fletcher Aero - Phoenix -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Brad

RE: Remote Area Question

2012-08-24 Thread Brad Casterline
no argument from me on that Ron :), designers do create! -Original Message- From: rfletc...@aerofire.com [mailto:rfletc...@aerofire.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 12:50 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Remote Area Question On anything but a straight forward

RE: Remote Area Question

2012-08-24 Thread Brad Casterline
and right after I hit send- your point sunk in-- i should never be surprised by any results! thanks -Original Message- From: Brad Casterline [mailto:bcasterl...@fsc-inc.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 1:02 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Remote Area Question no

Re: Ventilation for diesel driven fire pump room

2012-08-24 Thread Ron Greenman
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Re: Ventilation for diesel driven fire pump room

2012-08-24 Thread Justin Reid
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