Re: Question

2020-08-26 Thread BRUCE VERHEI via Sprinklerforum
I used these codes in a seismic zone. I’m not familiar with any local amendments. Are you asking about building code importance factor for seimic design to be applied to tank design? Best. Bruce Verhei > On 08/26/2020 12:05 PM Gipson, Russell via Sprinklerforum > wrote: > > > I work

RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: Question

2020-08-26 Thread Gipson, Russell via Sprinklerforum
Are you aware if any jurisdictions has amended either code? Regards, Rusty Original message From: "Reed A. Roisum, SET via Sprinklerforum" Date: 8/26/20 12:27 PM (GMT-05:00) To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: "Reed A. Roisum, SET" Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE:

RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: C-Clamp Hangers

2020-08-26 Thread Prahl, Craig/GVL via Sprinklerforum
What do the specs say you're supposed to use in place of c-clamps? Craig Prahl | Jacobs | Group Lead/SME - Fire Protection | 864.676.5252 | craig.pr...@jacobs.com | www.jacobs.com 1041 East Butler Road Greenville, South Carolina 29606 > -Original Message- > From: Sprinklerforum > On

Re: C-Clamp Hangers

2020-08-26 Thread John Denhardt via Sprinklerforum
I think Ryan is onto the issue. If it is in the specification, request clarification from the engineer. A large percentage of time, the engineer is not clear enough when the specification is written. Thanks, John John August Denhardt, PE *Vice President, Engineering and Technical Services*

RE: C-Clamp Hangers

2020-08-26 Thread Jerry Van Kolken via Sprinklerforum
Ryan, That was my thinking. We always us the restraining straps on our hanger assemblies. Mike, The products I'm using are listed. This is a requirement from the client side. Jerry Van Kolken Millennium Fire Protection Corp. 2950 San Luis Rey Rd. Oceanside, CA 92058 (760) 722-2722 FX

Re: C-Clamp Hangers

2020-08-26 Thread John Denhardt via Sprinklerforum
Possibly an outdated specification. I have not heard of any issues with properly installed listed C-clamps. Thanks, John John August Denhardt, PE *Vice President, Engineering and Technical Services* *American Fire Sprinkler Association* m: p: 301-343-1457 214-349-5965 ext 121 w:

RE: C-Clamp Hangers

2020-08-26 Thread Hinson, Ryan via Sprinklerforum
Hanger attachments are being confused with bracing attachments. - NFPA 13 (2019) Section 18.5.11.10 explicitly DOES NOT allow C-clamps used for seismic bracing structural attachments with orwithout restraining straps unless specifically listed for such use. - Section 18.7.1

Re: C-Clamp Hangers

2020-08-26 Thread Mike Hairfield via Sprinklerforum
They have to be FM approved and/or UL listed. What type of C-Clamps are planning on using? Mike From: Sprinklerforum on behalf of Jerry Van Kolken via Sprinklerforum Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 1:52 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc:

C-Clamp Hangers

2020-08-26 Thread Jerry Van Kolken via Sprinklerforum
Does anyone know the reasoning Why you would not be allowed to use C-Clamps for your hanger attachments? I've had a couple of specs have this requirement pass by my desk recently. Jerry Van Kolken Millennium Fire Protection Corp. 2950 San Luis Rey Rd. Oceanside, CA 92058 (760)

RE: Question

2020-08-26 Thread Reed A. Roisum, SET via Sprinklerforum
2018 IBC SECTION 403 HIGH-RISE BUILDINGS 403.3 Automatic sprinkler system [F] 403.3.3 Secondary water supply. An automatic secondary on-site water supply having a capacity not less than the hydraulically calculated sprinkler demand, including the hose stream requirement, shall be provided

Question

2020-08-26 Thread Gipson, Russell via Sprinklerforum
I work for a government agency outside of the US. The 2009 ICC codes were not adopted here until 2016. Recently, several developers have proposed high rise buildings and there is an issue with the code listed below. The 2009 International Building Code 903.3.5.2 states: A secondary