I used these codes in a seismic zone. I’m not familiar with any local
amendments. Are you asking about building code importance factor for seimic
design to be applied to tank design?
Best.
Bruce Verhei
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Are you aware if any jurisdictions has amended either code?
Regards,
Rusty
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE:
What do the specs say you're supposed to use in place of c-clamps?
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I think Ryan is onto the issue. If it is in the specification, request
clarification from the engineer. A large percentage of time, the engineer
is not clear enough when the specification is written.
Thanks,
John
John August Denhardt, PE
*Vice President, Engineering and Technical Services*
Ryan,
That was my thinking. We always us the restraining straps on our hanger
assemblies.
Mike,
The products I'm using are listed. This is a requirement from the client
side.
Jerry Van Kolken
Millennium Fire Protection Corp.
2950 San Luis Rey Rd.
Oceanside, CA 92058
(760) 722-2722 FX
Possibly an outdated specification.
I have not heard of any issues with properly installed listed C-clamps.
Thanks,
John
John August Denhardt, PE
*Vice President, Engineering and Technical Services*
*American Fire Sprinkler Association*
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Hanger attachments are being confused with bracing attachments.
- NFPA 13 (2019) Section 18.5.11.10 explicitly DOES NOT allow C-clamps
used for seismic bracing structural attachments with orwithout restraining
straps unless specifically listed for such use.
- Section 18.7.1
They have to be FM approved and/or UL listed.
What type of C-Clamps are planning on using?
Mike
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Does anyone know the reasoning Why you would not be allowed to use C-Clamps
for your hanger attachments?
I've had a couple of specs have this requirement pass by my desk recently.
Jerry Van Kolken
Millennium Fire Protection Corp.
2950 San Luis Rey Rd.
Oceanside, CA 92058
(760)
2018 IBC
SECTION 403
HIGH-RISE BUILDINGS
403.3 Automatic sprinkler system
[F] 403.3.3 Secondary water supply. An automatic secondary on-site water supply
having a capacity not less than the hydraulically calculated sprinkler demand,
including the hose stream requirement, shall be provided
I work for a government agency outside of the US.
The 2009 ICC codes were not adopted here until 2016.
Recently, several developers have proposed high rise buildings and there is an
issue with the code listed below.
The 2009 International Building Code 903.3.5.2 states:
A secondary
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