RE: Solid-Piled and Palletized Storage Arrangement

2021-06-09 Thread Michael Hill via Sprinklerforum
I too am curious about this. I have seen 20,000 ft² stacked 20' high on both sides of a warehouse with a single aisle in the middle for a forklift. Mike Hill -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Kyle.Montgomery via Sprinklerforum Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 2:45 PM

RE: Available Pressure from Fire Water Storage Tank

2021-05-07 Thread Michael Hill via Sprinklerforum
There goes my logic, right out the window..again. Mike Hill -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum Sent: Friday, May 7, 2021 2:21 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Bob Caputo Subject: Re: Available Pressure from Fire

RE: Available Pressure from Fire Water Storage Tank

2021-05-07 Thread Michael Hill via Sprinklerforum
I would think you could subtract the sprinkler demand x required duration from the lowest expected capacity of the tank and use the height of the remaining water column as your supply. The tank would also probably need an automatic fill. I have no codes to back this up, but logic says it should

RE: 4 1/2" FDC

2021-03-18 Thread Michael Hill via Sprinklerforum
You may have to put an adapter on a standard Storz connection. Mike Hill -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of BOB AKINS via Sprinklerforum Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 2:41 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: BOB AKINS Subject: 4 1/2" FDC I have a city

RE: Pan-Type Construction

2021-02-02 Thread Michael Hill via Sprinklerforum
My guess is Steve was thinking metal pan with concrete slab above. That is how I originally read the post. Mike Hill -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of cliff--- via Sprinklerforum Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 5:08 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc:

RE: RV Storage

2021-01-14 Thread Michael Hill via Sprinklerforum
It's a shame that full scale fire testing is cost prohibitive. I would really like to see what would actually happen with some of the worst case scenarios we bring up. Shielded fire in RV launches a propane tank that hits the full fuel tank in the fiberglass boat parked two spaces away. The

RE: 8.17.5 Hose Connections

2020-10-02 Thread Michael Hill via Sprinklerforum
Would small hoses at a stage qualify? Mike Hill -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Kyle.Montgomery via Sprinklerforum Sent: Friday, October 2, 2020 3:16 PM To: 'sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org' Cc: Kyle.Montgomery Subject: 8.17.5 Hose Connections So, I

RE: Pump Suction Pressure (NPSH)

2020-08-06 Thread Michael Hill via Sprinklerforum
Couldn't you extract that information from the latest pump test. Mike Hill -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Brian Harris via Sprinklerforum Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 1:22 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Brian Harris Subject: RE: Pump Suction

RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: flex heads touching stuff

2020-05-18 Thread Michael Hill via Sprinklerforum
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RE: flex heads touching stuff

2020-05-18 Thread Michael Hill via Sprinklerforum
We have been told by one jurisdiction that we must support the flex so that it does not rest on the ceiling. I haven't seen anything to back that up either, but was easier to comply than to argue. Mike Hill From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Matt Grise via Sprinklerforum Sent: Monday, May 18,

RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Misc. Storage

2020-01-29 Thread Michael Hill via Sprinklerforum
Lawyers will argue whatever they think will keep their client, the insurance company, from having to pay out a large sum. Doesn't matter what it pertains too. After a fire they will call in everyone associated with the building, including the cleaning lady that comes in every other Sunday.

RE: Fire Pump NFPA 20

2020-01-23 Thread Michael Hill via Sprinklerforum
Luis, Please provide some additional information, so that your question can be properly answered. 1. Where is this pump being installed. 2. Who is the AHJ. 3. What codes/standards have been adopted that you are basing your installation on. Mike Hill From: Sprinklerforum

RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: Panel Construction

2019-12-20 Thread Michael Hill via Sprinklerforum
If 300 ft² maximum area AND no unfilled penetrations, it is Panel - Obstructed Construction. If it exceeds 300 ft² OR has unfilled penetrations, it is Smooth Ceiling - Unobstructed Construction. In order to place the deflectors 22” down, heat must be trapped so as not to overly delay sprinkler

RE: Routing pipe through bar joist - clearance issues

2019-12-16 Thread Michael Hill via Sprinklerforum
I have an old cutout from an AFSA Tech Talk... from August 1992 that gives a pipe length formula. A/6 x B = Length of pipe that can be installed in open web bar joist. A = Depth of bar joists (expressed in inches) B = Distance between bar joists (expressed in feet) It is a general formula

RE: [EXTERNAL] FW: Dry Pipe Valve to Wet

2019-09-25 Thread Michael Hill via Sprinklerforum
<mailto:rongreen...@gmail.com> 253.576.9700 The Universe is monstrously indifferent to the presence of man. -Werner Herzog, screenwriter, film director, author, actor and opera director (1942-) On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 1:00 PM Michael Hill via Sprinklerforum mailto:sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkl

RE: [EXTERNAL] FW: Dry Pipe Valve to Wet

2019-09-24 Thread Michael Hill via Sprinklerforum
While it seems trivial to us who deal with it for a living, imagine the building caught fire and there were fire/smoke/water damages. I bet an insurance company lawyer could convince others that if the existing dry pipe valve was modified, there is no way of telling what else “didn’t meet code”