Re: Is there test information that shows whether or not obstructing lycrafabric ceiling elements are an issue?

2009-04-29 Thread AKS-Gmail-IMAP
I agree. Plan A puts upright sprinklers under the fabric J-hook style on 12 arms coming in from the fabric sides on vertical drops and with screw attached guards in anticipation of the fabric drooping down at a later time. At least the fabric will not have to be penetrated and the dice

RE: Is there test information that shows whether or not obstructing lycrafabric ceiling elements are an issue?

2009-04-16 Thread Chris Cahill
Create your own test. Light a controlled fire like a pan of heptane or alcohol in the space with the lycra installed and see what happens with just overhead sprinklers. Find some local FPE's or arson investigators to help they'd love it. Could find a warehouse with an 18' ceiling if they don't

Re: Is there test information that shows whether or not obstructing lycrafabric ceiling elements are an issue?

2009-04-16 Thread Allan Seidel
What I have learned so far is that Lycra is strong polyurethane fiber segments joined with stretchy (soft) polyester or polyether fiber segments. The amounts of each varies with the blend. The polyurethane provides the mechanical body to the fiber while the other stuff provides the elasticity. The

RE: Is there test information that shows whether or not obstructing lycrafabric ceiling elements are an issue?

2009-04-16 Thread Chris Cahill
I can almost guarantee wet lycra will not go anywhere in the early stages of a fire. Ever put a paper cup or plastic bag full of water in a fire? Let's assume the first heads goes off without any delay. Let's even assume the lycra below the fire is gone. These are reasonable assumptions

Re: Is there test information that shows whether or not obstructing lycrafabric ceiling elements are an issue?

2009-04-16 Thread Todd Williams
Allan, There are way too many question on this stuff. What is really going to happen with that arrangement in a fire situation? Will the fabric more likely start to deteriorate directly above the fire or along the ceiling jet? If one area starts to go, how will the rest of the panel react?