Re: Different Levels of protection open to each other in the same hazard

2021-03-19 Thread Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum
BTW, I probably should have included in my comments, the requirements for floor control valve assemblies in NFPA 13, 2019 edition section 16.9.11, which might be applicable to Jerry’s situation. Again, I may have missed the point of the original question…. But I’m old so I have an excuse!

RE: Different Levels of protection open to each other in the same hazard

2021-03-19 Thread Taylor Schumacher via Sprinklerforum
I am going through a very similar situation-2 story lobby with the floors zoned separately. I couldn't find anything that says explicitly which floor to pick this up from. One could certainly argue that it would be first floor based on the room number following first floor numbering. I decided

Re: Different Levels of protection open to each other in the same hazard

2021-03-19 Thread Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum
Jerry, NFPA 13 is clear that it is the designers responsibility to design the system and chose the design method. It is the AHJs (reviewer’s) responsibility to review the submitted design for acceptance to adopted codes and standards. Unless the reviewer in your case is the owner’s

RE: Different Levels of protection open to each other in the same hazard

2021-03-18 Thread BRUCE VERHEI via Sprinklerforum
I’d ask why. Is the fire sprinkler system acting as detection system for a smoke exhaust system? Best. Bruce Verhei > On 03/18/2021 8:05 PM Travis Mack via Sprinklerforum > wrote: > > > We've had cases where the 2 story volume area is required to be protected > from the 1st floor

RE: Different Levels of protection open to each other in the same hazard

2021-03-18 Thread Jerry Van Kolken via Sprinklerforum
I ask because this time it will require a 40'-0" drop and seismic assembly for each sprinkler Jerry Van Kolken Millennium Fire Protection Corp. 2950 San Luis Rey Rd. Oceanside, CA 92058 (760) 722-2722 FX 722-2730 -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Jerry Van Kolken

RE: Different Levels of protection open to each other in the same hazard

2021-03-18 Thread Matthew J Willis via Sprinklerforum
I believe there was a change somewhere, or just good practice, but responders like the ability to shut the system off from the floor they are standing on. In other words, if you can see it, then the control valve should be on the level you are standing. I have been meaning to research this

RE: Different Levels of protection open to each other in the same hazard

2021-03-18 Thread Travis Mack via Sprinklerforum
We've had cases where the 2 story volume area is required to be protected from the 1st floor system, but not the entire building just off of one system because of that. Travis Mack, CFPS, CWBSP, RME-G, COC, SET Engineering Manager MFP Design 3356 E Vallejo Ct Gilbert, AZ 85298 480-505-9271 ext.