RE: Reliable Power

2012-07-03 Thread Craig.Prahl
If an area was prone to such regularly scheduled events it would be factored in to the equation of reliability and you wouldn't need a Standard to tell you to include those type of events. But you cannot just randomly take an area and make a matter of fact determination that their power MAY be

Re: Reliable Power

2012-07-03 Thread Ron Greenman
Craig, I see you also use space invaders to make the what if scenario point about anything being possible, no matter how unlikely, and should we consider all possibilities rather than probabilities? I also like when my annoying pocket cell phone tether is trying to interrupt a conversation with

RE: Reliable Power

2012-07-03 Thread Craig.Prahl
Subject: Re: Reliable Power Craig, I see you also use space invaders to make the what if scenario point about anything being possible, no matter how unlikely, and should we consider all possibilities rather than probabilities? I also like when my annoying pocket cell phone tether is trying to interrupt

RE: Reliable Power

2012-07-03 Thread Steve Leyton
...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 7:13 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: Reliable Power Craig, I see you also use space invaders to make the what if scenario point about anything being possible

RE: Reliable Power

2012-07-02 Thread Craig.Prahl
Refer to NFPA 20, 2010, Annex A.9.3.2. There is also some verbiage in NFPA 70, 695.3 which refers to NFPA 20, A.9.3.2. Craig L. Prahl, CET Fire Protection CH2MHILL Lockwood Greene 1500 International Drive Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491 Direct - 864.599.4102 Fax - 864.599.8439 CH2MHILL

RE: Reliable Power

2012-07-02 Thread Bruce Verhei
caused by the Nisqually earthquake. Bruce Sent from my Motorola ATRIX™ 4G on ATT -Original message- From: craig.pr...@ch2m.com To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Sent: Mon, Jul 2, 2012 13:13:18 GMT+00:00 Subject: RE: Reliable Power Refer to NFPA 20, 2010, Annex A.9.3.2. There is also

RE: Reliable Power

2012-07-02 Thread Craig.Prahl
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Reliable Power Daniel After you've read the annex you can get loss of service info from the electrical utility. The local private electrical utility responds better to inquiry from the AHJ directly. I found the language about regional disaster not being

RE: Reliable Power

2012-07-02 Thread George Church
Some good points, but I wouldn't hold my breath on reading the reality posted in a public spot. Even the family of a US Govt employee who was killed my US-govt issued armament, let alone Congress, can't get a straight answer on how that happened. While I'd love to see the summary of a lot of

Re: Reliable Power

2012-07-02 Thread John Drucker
Dan. We use the criteria found in the NEC, NFPA 20 and 25. However each case can be different such as were power is otherwise reliable but the distribution service to the building is questionable. We have such a building where vehicles sideswiping a pole causing the line fuses to open. The