Re: drum drip in cold spaces

2012-09-05 Thread George Church
Todd Looks like you have the answer. If they refuse to accept it, you are off the hook. Glc Sent from my iPhone On Sep 4, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Todd Williams t...@fpdc.com wrote: Roland, I'm not the EOR on this project, just the plebe doing the shop drawings. The EOR put very little thought

RE: drum drip in cold spaces

2012-09-04 Thread Craig.Prahl
Supervised heat tape system plus insulation? Craig L. Prahl, CET Fire Protection CH2MHILL Lockwood Greene 1500 International Drive Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491 Direct - 864.599.4102 Fax - 864.599.8439 CH2MHILL Extension 74102 craig.pr...@ch2m.com -Original Message- From:

Re: drum drip in cold spaces

2012-09-04 Thread Jeff Garrison
It is recommended, but not a requirement. We will penetrate back into the building (where possible/practicable) to prevent freezing. Many times in a parking garage is not possible, some loading docks, etc. Jeff Garrison Detroit Automatic Sprinkler On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Todd Williams

RE: drum drip in cold spaces

2012-09-04 Thread Morey, Mike
NFPA 13 2010 says: 7.4.4.4 Section drain lines and dry pipe system auxiliary drains shall be located in heated areas or inside heated cabinets to enclose drain valves and auxiliary drains for each section. That said we typically insulate and heat trace them with a supervised heat tracing, I

RE: drum drip in cold spaces

2012-09-04 Thread Johnson, Duane (NIH/OD/ORS) [C]
[mailto:mo...@bmwc.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 9:43 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: drum drip in cold spaces NFPA 13 2010 says: 7.4.4.4 Section drain lines and dry pipe system auxiliary drains shall be located in heated areas or inside heated cabinets to enclose

RE: drum drip in cold spaces

2012-09-04 Thread George Church
What edition of 13? 13R? applies? George L. Church, Jr., CET   Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc. PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842 877-324-ROWE   570-837-6335 fax g...@rowesprinkler.com -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org

RE: drum drip in cold spaces

2012-09-04 Thread Todd Williams
2002 At 10:18 AM 9/4/2012, you wrote: What edition of 13? 13R? applies? George L. Church, Jr., CET Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc. PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842 877-324-ROWE 570-837-6335 fax g...@rowesprinkler.com -Original Message- From:

Re: drum drip in cold spaces

2012-09-04 Thread Garth W. Warren
Before the hysteria over anti-freeze and backflow protection, we used to use a cup or less in each drum drip. A spot light works well to keep the drum drip warm and makes locating them easy after a trip. Garth retired fitter -Original Message- From: Todd Williams Sent: Tuesday,

RE: drum drip in cold spaces

2012-09-04 Thread George Church
Subject: Re: drum drip in cold spaces As the EOR, ensuring your client is well aware of the NFPA 25 requirements for draining all auxiliary drains as often as necessary is time well spent. From a design side, making sure they can find and readily access all of them and they are shown on your plans

Re: drum drip in cold spaces

2012-09-04 Thread Todd Williams
Roland, I'm not the EOR on this project, just the plebe doing the shop drawings. The EOR put very little thought into the dry system for the attic so now the dormers on both ends of the building are trapped. So far he has been resistant to letting us put the DDs into the mechanical closet in