Re: drum drip in cold spaces

2012-09-05 Thread George Church
Todd Looks like you have the answer. If they refuse to accept it, you are off the hook. Glc Sent from my iPhone On Sep 4, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Todd Williams t...@fpdc.com wrote: Roland, I'm not the EOR on this project, just the plebe doing the shop drawings. The EOR put very little thought

drum drip in cold spaces

2012-09-04 Thread Todd Williams
I am working on a dry system where we have to install some drum drips. However, they will be installed in the cold spaces (outside, not cooler/freezer). Do these need to be protected from freezing? Any suggestions how? Todd G. Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, CT

RE: drum drip in cold spaces

2012-09-04 Thread Craig.Prahl
: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Todd Williams Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 9:25 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: drum drip in cold spaces I am working on a dry system where we have to install some drum drips. However

Re: drum drip in cold spaces

2012-09-04 Thread Jeff Garrison
It is recommended, but not a requirement. We will penetrate back into the building (where possible/practicable) to prevent freezing. Many times in a parking garage is not possible, some loading docks, etc. Jeff Garrison Detroit Automatic Sprinkler On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Todd Williams

RE: drum drip in cold spaces

2012-09-04 Thread Morey, Mike
...@firesprinkler.org on behalf of Todd Williams Sent: Tue 9/4/2012 9:25 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: drum drip in cold spaces I am working on a dry system where we have to install some drum drips. However, they will be installed in the cold spaces (outside, not cooler/freezer). Do

RE: drum drip in cold spaces

2012-09-04 Thread Johnson, Duane (NIH/OD/ORS) [C]
[mailto:mo...@bmwc.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 9:43 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: drum drip in cold spaces NFPA 13 2010 says: 7.4.4.4 Section drain lines and dry pipe system auxiliary drains shall be located in heated areas or inside heated cabinets to enclose

RE: drum drip in cold spaces

2012-09-04 Thread George Church
...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Todd Williams Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 9:25 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: drum drip in cold spaces I am working on a dry system where we have to install some drum drips. However, they will be installed in the cold spaces (outside

RE: drum drip in cold spaces

2012-09-04 Thread Todd Williams
...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Todd Williams Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 9:25 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: drum drip in cold spaces I am working on a dry system where we have to install some drum drips. However

Re: drum drip in cold spaces

2012-09-04 Thread Garth W. Warren
, September 04, 2012 9:25 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: drum drip in cold spaces I am working on a dry system where we have to install some drum drips. However, they will be installed in the cold spaces (outside, not cooler/freezer). Do these need to be protected from freezing? Any

RE: drum drip in cold spaces

2012-09-04 Thread George Church
Subject: Re: drum drip in cold spaces As the EOR, ensuring your client is well aware of the NFPA 25 requirements for draining all auxiliary drains as often as necessary is time well spent. From a design side, making sure they can find and readily access all of them and they are shown on your plans

Re: drum drip in cold spaces

2012-09-04 Thread Todd Williams
Roland, I'm not the EOR on this project, just the plebe doing the shop drawings. The EOR put very little thought into the dry system for the attic so now the dormers on both ends of the building are trapped. So far he has been resistant to letting us put the DDs into the mechanical closet in