RE: CPVC in Ord Hazard

2009-04-16 Thread Jim Johnston
I personally wouldn't touch it, if something bad happens in any area of the system I'm sure the legal system would try to tie you to it since you were aware of the problems even though you didn't originally cause it. Jim Johnston, P.E. Fire Protection Engineer Inland Fire Protection, Inc 1100

RE: CPVC in Ord Hazard

2009-04-16 Thread George Church
Noreen can omit almost anything in contract :) I assume its over 400 SF warehouse and not in a light hazard building? I'd scan the horizon for what could bite you later, tho- is return worth risk? glc -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org

RE: CPVC in Ord Hazard

2009-04-16 Thread Paul Johnson
The classic contractor's dilemma - Risk versus Reward. A few humble-opinion thoughts on each: From a Risk standpoint, if something (anything) goes wrong later down the road, what can you rely on that will prove you installed in accordance with applicable standards, manufacturers' instructions,

Re: CPVC in Ord Hazard

2009-04-16 Thread Todd Williams
Sounds like a great project for your competition. Many moons ago (my previous employer), we did a partial system in a manufacturing area that was so caustic that galvanized pipe would rot in less than a year. We got permission to use CPVC and it held up fine. Other than that, stay away At

RE: CPVC in Ord Hazard

2009-04-16 Thread Craig.Prahl
- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Todd Williams Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 12:22 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: CPVC in Ord Hazard Sounds like a great project for your competition. Many moons ago

RE: CPVC in Ord Hazard

2009-04-16 Thread Thom McMahon
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: CPVC in Ord Hazard What did you hang the pipe with? Just because someone gave permission to install a product in a system outside of it's listing doesn't absolve a contractor of potential negligence if the system fails or does not perform as a listed

RE: CPVC in Ord Hazard

2009-04-16 Thread Todd Williams
craig.pr...@ch2m.com http://www.ch2m.com -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Todd Williams Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 12:22 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: CPVC in Ord Hazard

RE: CPVC in Ord Hazard

2009-04-16 Thread George Church
@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: CPVC in Ord Hazard I don't recall what they used for hangers. The job was done 22 years ago +/-, so I don't remember all the details. My boss at the time handled the negotiations and everybody signed off on it (Ins co, AHJ, etc.). As I recall there was an issue