Re: [sqlite] May I ask why the source distribution mechanism was changed starting with 3.3.14?

2007-05-04 Thread John Stanton
I did a comparison some time back between gcc and IBM's Xlc. The IBM compiler was a bit slower to compile but the fully optimized executables were quite different in performance. Xlc's executable ran 40% faster. A look at the generated code showed that the IBM optimizer was carefully matched

Re: [sqlite] May I ask why the source distribution mechanism was changed starting with 3.3.14?

2007-05-04 Thread Ken
time gcc -m32 -O2 -I. -I../sqliteSrc/sqlite-3.3.17/src -DNDEBUG -DTHREADSAFE=1 -DSQLITE_THREAD_OVERRIDE_LOCK=-1 -DSQLITE_OMIT_LOAD_EXTENSION=1 -c sqlite3.c -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/sqlite3.o real0m20.266s user0m19.773s sys 0m0.444s time gcc -m32 -O2 -I.

Re: [sqlite] May I ask why the source distribution mechanism was changed starting with 3.3.14?

2007-05-04 Thread drh
"C.Peachment" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > With the suggestion that the problem was a compiler bug > in PellesC for Windows, I posted a message on their forum. > One response suggested a couple of configuration changes > and also said to wait a while because it took a long time to > compile. >

Re: [sqlite] May I ask why the source distribution mechanism was changed starting with 3.3.14?

2007-05-04 Thread Dennis Jenkins
Ulrich Telle wrote: drh wrote: I'm still having trouble trying to understand how managing 60 separate code files is perceived to be easier than managing just 2 files (sqlite3.c and sqlite3.h). It seems to me that the management problem gets much easier the fewer files there are to manage.

Re: [sqlite] May I ask why the source distribution mechanism was changed starting with 3.3.14?

2007-05-04 Thread C.Peachment
With the suggestion that the problem was a compiler bug in PellesC for Windows, I posted a message on their forum. One response suggested a couple of configuration changes and also said to wait a while because it took a long time to compile. So, I let the compiler continue after it had reported a

Re: [sqlite] May I ask why the source distribution mechanism was changed starting with 3.3.14?

2007-05-04 Thread Nuno Lucas
On 5/4/07, Ken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 100% concur with Dennis. Thanks again for a great product! +1 I couldn't said it better, maybe even in my native language ;-) Best regards, ~Nuno Lucas Dennis Cote <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Can somebody please

Re: [sqlite] May I ask why the source distribution mechanism was changed starting with 3.3.14?

2007-05-04 Thread Ken
100% concur with Dennis. Thanks again for a great product! Dennis Cote <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Can somebody please explain to my how 2 files is less manageable > than 60? > > > Richard, I think part of the problem is simple inertia. Some people have

Re: [sqlite] May I ask why the source distribution mechanism was changed starting with 3.3.14?

2007-05-04 Thread Justin Fletcher
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "Shane Harrelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This allowed me to get the benefits of the single source file (more compiler optimizations, etc.) while keeping the manageability, etc. of the separate source file. I'm still having trouble trying to understand how

Re: [sqlite] May I ask why the source distribution mechanism was changed starting with 3.3.14?

2007-05-04 Thread Dennis Cote
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can somebody please explain to my how 2 files is less manageable than 60? Richard, I think part of the problem is simple inertia. Some people have developed a methodology for using the sqlite source files based on the previous arrangement. They may have

Re: [sqlite] May I ask why the source distribution mechanism was changed starting with 3.3.14?

2007-05-04 Thread Ulrich Telle
drh wrote: > I'm still having trouble trying to understand how managing > 60 separate code files is perceived to be easier than managing > just 2 files (sqlite3.c and sqlite3.h). It seems to me that > the management problem gets much easier the fewer files there > are to manage. In the case

Re: [sqlite] May I ask why the source distribution mechanism was changed starting with 3.3.14?

2007-05-04 Thread Tomash Brechko
On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 14:04:24 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Can somebody please explain to my how 2 files is less manageable > than 60? To my mind, the only missing feature is CPP #line directives, like #line 1 "alter.c" when contents of alter.c begins. If they are in place,

Re: [sqlite] May I ask why the source distribution mechanism was changed starting with 3.3.14?

2007-05-02 Thread Clark Christensen
Richard, For what it's worth, it would be very convenient to have shell.c included in the preprocessed source distro. sqlite3.def would also be convenient, but the nm sqlite3.o | grep ... | sed ... >>sqlite3.def method seems to correctly generate sqlite3.def on my Windows system - EXCEPT,

Re: Re[2]: [sqlite] May I ask why the source distribution mechanism was changed starting with 3.3.14?

2007-05-01 Thread C.Peachment
Hello Dr. Hipp: I have previously reported compiler warnings to you issued by the Pelles C MS-Windows compiler and you have repaired them in the following release. This is the first time I have tried to compile the single file sqlite3.c using the compiler version 3.50 and it reported some

Re: Re[2]: [sqlite] May I ask why the source distribution mechanism was changed starting with 3.3.14?

2007-05-01 Thread Klemens Friedl
The preprocessed source code in single files (plus def file) package would be appreciated. The number one reason for me, which make the "The Amalgamation" a show stopper: Using SQLite in an open source project usually (and also in my case) means that the source code is available on a

Re[2]: [sqlite] May I ask why the source distribution mechanism was changed starting with 3.3.14?

2007-04-30 Thread Teg
Hello drh, I'm happy with the new source release method. I was fine with the old way too. The new method is slightly more convenient for me when I upgrade. C Monday, April 30, 2007, 5:46:19 PM, you wrote: dhc> Martin Jenkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> As fas as I know, the dev team is

Re: [sqlite] May I ask why the source distribution mechanism was changed starting with 3.3.14?

2007-04-30 Thread Martin Jenkins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin Jenkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I agree, it is slightly odd for neither of them to reply. Why is it odd? Because you normally reply to these things, if only to say something lie "the pre-processed source for Windows is provided as a courtesy". ;) We

RES: [sqlite] May I ask why the source distribution mechanism was changed starting with 3.3.14?

2007-04-30 Thread Marketing
-Mensagem original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviada em: segunda-feira, 30 de abril de 2007 18:46 Para: sqlite-users@sqlite.org Assunto: Re: [sqlite] May I ask why the source distribution mechanism was changed starting with 3.3.14? Martin Jenkins <[EMAIL

RES: [sqlite] May I ask why the source distribution mechanism was changed starting with 3.3.14?

2007-04-30 Thread Marketing
-Mensagem original- De: Bennett, Patrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviada em: segunda-feira, 30 de abril de 2007 19:28 Para: sqlite-users@sqlite.org Assunto: RE: [sqlite] May I ask why the source distribution mechanism was changed starting with 3.3.14? People (myself being one of

RE: [sqlite] May I ask why the source distribution mechanism was changed starting with 3.3.14?

2007-04-30 Thread Bennett, Patrick
People (myself being one of them) were asking if it could be put back the way it was. Several of us (those that replied at least) stated our dislike of the new single .c file format. It was also a question (hence the subject line). No one ever replied. It seemed like something worthy of at

Re: [sqlite] May I ask why the source distribution mechanism was changed starting with 3.3.14?

2007-04-30 Thread drh
Martin Jenkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As fas as I know, the dev team is Dr Hipp and Dan Kennedy (apologies if > there's someone else and I missed you) and I agree, it is slightly odd > for neither of them to reply. > Why is it odd? The issue is not something that needs replying to.

RES: [sqlite] May I ask why the source distribution mechanism was changed starting with 3.3.14?

2007-04-30 Thread Marketing
-Mensagem original- De: Martin Jenkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviada em: segunda-feira, 30 de abril de 2007 18:25 Para: sqlite-users@sqlite.org Assunto: Re: [sqlite] May I ask why the source distribution mechanism was changed starting with 3.3.14? Bennett, Patrick wrote: > I

Re: [sqlite] May I ask why the source distribution mechanism was changed starting with 3.3.14?

2007-04-30 Thread Martin Jenkins
Bennett, Patrick wrote: I wasn't sure who maintained the binary distribution and based on the recent list activity, I assumed someone who was responsible would've already replied. As fas as I know, the dev team is Dr Hipp and Dan Kennedy (apologies if there's someone else and I missed you)

RE: [sqlite] May I ask why the source distribution mechanism was changed starting with 3.3.14?

2007-04-30 Thread Bennett, Patrick
Ok, thanks for pointing that out. I wasn't sure who maintained the binary distribution and based on the recent list activity, I assumed someone who was responsible would've already replied. Patrick -Original Message- From: Martin Jenkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April

Re: [sqlite] May I ask why the source distribution mechanism was changed starting with 3.3.14?

2007-04-30 Thread Martin Jenkins
Bennett, Patrick wrote: No comment at all? That's three users asking for this now. :( Dr Hipp usually responds pretty quickly, but sometimes he's away on business. You know, supporting the paying customers... ;) Martin

RE: [sqlite] May I ask why the source distribution mechanism was changed starting with 3.3.14?

2007-04-30 Thread Bennett, Patrick
No comment at all? That's three users asking for this now. :( Patrick -Original Message- From: Clark Christensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 11:12 AM To: sqlite-users@sqlite.org Subject: Re: [sqlite] May I ask why the source distribution mechanism was

Re: [sqlite] May I ask why the source distribution mechanism was changed starting with 3.3.14?

2007-04-27 Thread Klemens Friedl
Please provide the processed source package, as it has been the case for SQLite before. "The Amalgamation" big c file (plus header file) might be an (optional) neat package, but the standard processed source package shall be still available. The http://www.sqlite.org/sqlite-source-3_3_17.zip

Re: [sqlite] May I ask why the source distribution mechanism was changed starting with 3.3.14?

2007-04-27 Thread Clark Christensen
In general, I agree. I miss the zipped set of pre-processed C source. Since you have the Linux-based build system at your disposal, you can get what you're used to having with make target_source on the Linux system. This creates a tsrc directory containing the familiar pre-processed C

[sqlite] May I ask why the source distribution mechanism was changed starting with 3.3.14?

2007-04-27 Thread Bennett, Patrick
The last time I downloaded SQLite was version 3.3.12. For that version (and many prior versions), I could download a preprocessed archive containing all of the source code, except parse.h, parse.c and opcode.h(? - this is from memory) were the 'generated' versions. The source for the command-line