Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Updating from 8.0.1 to 8.3.0

2022-02-07 Thread Stefan Bellon
First of all, thanks for your lightning fast response. :-D

On Tue, 08 Feb, Michael Herger wrote:

> > Feb 08 08:18:07 slim squeezeboxserver[739207]: The following
> > modules failed to load: DBI EV XML::Parser::Expat HTML::Parser
> > JSON::XS YAML::XS Sub::Name  
> 
> Hmm... can you double check the LMS installation folder to see
> whether the 5.34 binaries are there?

$ ls -al /usr/share/squeezeboxserver/CPAN/arch/
total 40
drwxr-xr-x 10 root root 4096 Feb  8 08:03 .
drwxr-xr-x 58 root root 4096 Feb  8 08:03 ..
drwxr-xr-x  6 root root 4096 Feb  8 08:03 5.20
drwxr-xr-x  6 root root 4096 Feb  8 08:03 5.22
drwxr-xr-x  7 root root 4096 Feb  8 08:03 5.24
drwxr-xr-x  7 root root 4096 Feb  8 08:03 5.26
drwxr-xr-x  9 root root 4096 Feb  8 08:03 5.28
drwxr-xr-x  9 root root 4096 Feb  8 08:03 5.30
drwxr-xr-x  9 root root 4096 Feb  8 08:03 5.32
drwxr-xr-x  9 root root 4096 Feb  8 08:03 5.34


They are there (also 5.34 has content). The only missing file from 5.34
when comparing with 5.32 is x86_64-linux-thread-multi/Audio/Scan.pm
(however this file is ONLY present in 5.32, not sure whether it is by
accident or whether it is required since 5.32 and now missing in 5.34)?

> Oh, you're on unstable? Oh well... that's what you get... an unstable 
> system. People who live on the edge should be able to deal with it...

Yes, I'm on Debian unstable since 1997 (no joke). It never broke in a
way that it was unusable. The only thing that "regularly" breaks
whenever Perl is updated is LMS. In the past I just had to wait until
some kind soul uploaded a version with the new CPAN modules included.
As LMS 8.3.0 already had them, I thought I may as well update from
8.0.1 to 8.3.0 this morning.

So, to me (not experienced with Perl at all) it looks like some
include/lookup path is not set correctly?

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Updating from 8.0.1 to 8.3.0

2022-02-07 Thread Michael Herger
What Debian are you using? I checked version info, and even testing 
("bookworm") would come with Perl 5.32?


Oh, you're on unstable? Oh well... that's what you get... an unstable 
system. People who live on the edge should be able to deal with it...

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Updating from 8.0.1 to 8.3.0

2022-02-07 Thread Michael Herger

this morning my LMS installation broke (again) due to the fact that
Debian updated Perl from 5.32 to 5.34 and my installation of LMS 8.0.1


What Debian are you using? I checked version info, and even testing 
("bookworm") would come with Perl 5.32?


https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/perl
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Updating from 8.0.1 to 8.3.0

2022-02-07 Thread Michael Herger

Feb 08 08:18:07 slim squeezeboxserver[739207]: The following modules failed to 
load: DBI EV XML::Parser::Expat HTML::Parser JSON::XS YAML::XS Sub::Name


Hmm... can you double check the LMS installation folder to see whether 
the 5.34 binaries are there?


Would you know what glibc your system is using? I used a Fedora based 
system to build the binaries. Maybe there's a conflict?

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[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Updating from 8.0.1 to 8.3.0

2022-02-07 Thread Stefan Bellon
Hi community,

this morning my LMS installation broke (again) due to the fact that
Debian updated Perl from 5.32 to 5.34 and my installation of LMS 8.0.1
that was running happily for over a year broke (as always when Perl
gets a major update).

I looked around http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/index.php and
realised that only LMS 8.3.0 has support for Perl 5.34, so I downloaded
the latest logitechmediaserver_8.3.0~1644276318_amd64.deb and installed
it.

However, now it doesn't start up at all and even the server.log stays
empty - which seems unhelpful.

journalctl shows me the following lines:

Feb 08 08:18:07 slim systemd[1]: Started Logitech Media Server.
Feb 08 08:18:07 slim squeezeboxserver[739207]: The following modules failed to 
load: DBI EV XML::Parser::Expat HTML::Parser JSON::XS YAML::XS Sub::Name
Feb 08 08:18:07 slim squeezeboxserver[739207]: This is perl 5, version 34, 
subversion 0 (v5.34.0) built for x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi
Feb 08 08:18:07 slim squeezeboxserver[739207]: (with 49 registered
patches, see perl -V for more detail)
...

However all the modules listed are installed:

sbellon@slim$ dpkg -l libdbi-perl libev-perl libxml-parser-perl 
libhtml-parser-perl libjson-xs-perl libyaml-xs-perl libsub-name-perl
dpkg-query: no packages found matching libyaml-xs-perl
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name  Version  Architecture Description
+++-=---===>
ii  libdbi-perl:amd64 1.643-3+b2   amd64Perl Database Interface 
(DBI)
ii  libev-perl4.33-1+b2amd64Perl interface to 
libev, the hi>
ii  libhtml-parser-perl:amd64 3.76-1+b1amd64collection of modules 
that pars>
ii  libjson-xs-perl   4.030-1+b2   amd64module for manipulating 
JSON-fo>
ii  libsub-name-perl  0.26-1+b2amd64module for assigning a 
new name>
ii  libxml-parser-perl:amd64  2.46-3+b1amd64Perl module for
parsing XML fil>

I would be very grateful for any help in getting LMS starting up again.

TIA.

Stefan

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-07 Thread Grumpy Bob


For a one-off scenario like this, you could merge all four CDs with
Audacity or similar to make a single audio file. Then use a single
player. I did this for Gensho, a collaborative two CD set that by Boris
with Merzbow is supposed to be played simultaneously.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-07 Thread RobbH


One more thought. I'm sure that, in the past, Michael has pointed us
toward better ways to do this than using HTML commands. Maybe he will
refresh our memories this time. But I just had good luck using  this
command:


Code:

curl "http://:9000/Classic/status_header.html?p0=play=00%3A00%3A00%3A00%3A00%3A00" 
&> /dev/null



It might be worth trying to put four such commands in a single script,
running each one in the background to minimize the delay between them.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-07 Thread Paul Webster


Might it work if you set an alarm on each - with each one launching a
different CD.
I suspect that they would not be close enough to each other ... but
might be OK if they are LMS controlled devices (e.g.
SB1/SB2/SB3/Transporter).

Otherwise a script that does not wait for the response from LMS (fire
and forget) might get them going within a couple of tenths of a second.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-07 Thread RobbH


This is horribly convoluted, but it's the only thing I've thought of so
far:

Take four computers. Any combination of desktops, laptops, Raspberry
Pis, or whatever. Each one needs to have the capability to run a command
at a specified time, like cron on LInux. Each one also needs to have the
capability to run a command that will click a button in a gui. (In
LInux, xdotool serves that purpose.) Make sure time is synchronized on
all four. Open LMS in a browser and select a different player on each
one. Have the appropriate version of the album ready to play in each. Do
all the necessary measurements and calculations to set up a command that
will click on the Play button.

Would that actually work? Maybe. Probably not.

On second thought, aren't there html and/or json commands you could use
to do this?



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[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-07 Thread slartibartfast


This sounds like it should be an easy thing to do but as far as I know
there isn't a way to start multiple non synchronised players at the same
time. There is likely only one possible reason for this (that I can
think of) and that is playing Zaireeka by the The Flaming Lips the way
it was intended to be played. It consists of four CDs which are meant to
played on four players simultaneously. A Squeezebox system would appear
to be ideal for this until you actually try to do it. I even tried using
an IR remote in the hope of triggering all players at the same time
[emoji1787]. For those versed in the art it sounds like an easy thing to
achieve but that is not me.
Any thoughts?

Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk





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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Set prerred server?

2022-02-07 Thread castalla

d6jg wrote: 
> If using Material it’s very very easy to move a rogue player or players
> back to the correct LMS after a server reboot. 
> I have 3 x local LMS and 1 remote but accessible via VPN. It used to be
> a pain but now it’s simple.

Thanks.  Easy for some but not for better half, I'm afraid.





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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Set prerred server?

2022-02-07 Thread d6jg

If using Material it’s very very easy to move a rogue player or players
back to the correct LMS after a server reboot. 
I have 3 x local LMS and 1 remote but accessible via VPN. It used to be
a pain but now it’s simple.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Strange text in scan with latest LMS 8.3

2022-02-07 Thread Michael Herger

There seem to be some more errors after the latest 8.3


A temporary hiccup that happens every now and then. Nothing new or to 
worry about.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS / Squeezelite / Jivelite - with no active interfaces?

2022-02-07 Thread RobbH


sodface wrote: 
> Thanks for the reply, I did actually see that one this morning, plus a
> couple of older threads which are similar but not identical to my use
> case. Some are picoreplayer specific (I'm not using a Pi in this case)
> and/or the solutions aren't really ideal for me I don't think, eg.
> adding a switch, or turning on hostapd for hotspot mode, setting static
> ips on the physical interfaces etc. I'll keep looking at it, I was doing
> a lot of skimming so I may have missed some important details in those
> threads.

I think what you're trying to do is more complicated than any of the
threads on this subject I've seen. But I hoped you might encounter
something in one of those threads that could nudge you in the right
direction.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS / Squeezelite / Jivelite - with no active interfaces?

2022-02-07 Thread sodface


RobbH wrote: 
> Have you seen this current thread?
> 
> https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115897-Start-music-from-USB-device-without-network=1046110=1#post1046110
> 
> The links in some of the replies there might be helpful.

Thanks for the reply, I did actually see that one this morning, plus a
couple of older threads which are similar but not identical to my use
case. Some are picoreplayer specific (I'm not using a Pi in this case)
and/or the solutions aren't really ideal for me I don't think, eg.
adding a switch, or turning on hostapd for hotspot mode, setting static
ips on the physical interfaces etc. I'll keep looking at it, I was doing
a lot of skimming so I may have missed some important details in those
threads.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] [FreeBSD/XigmaNAS/TrueNAS] LogitechMediaServer Installation

2022-02-07 Thread sfraser


Well I stand corrected. I checked it again today and it is indeed
running 8.3. It's been a few days since I did the upgrade, but I have 
upgraded some plugins since then   which required me to start/start the
LMS. Would it be possible the manual  LMS start/stop did something?

Thanks

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Strange text in scan with latest LMS 8.3

2022-02-07 Thread slartibartfast


mherger wrote: 
> > Scan looks OK now. Is this important at start up?
> 
> I'm sorry... yes, thanks. I mess up those strings whenever I edit the 
> main strings file...

There seem to be some more errors after the latest 8.3


+---+
|Filename: 8.3server.log|
|Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=37168|
+---+


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS / Squeezelite / Jivelite - with no active interfaces?

2022-02-07 Thread RobbH


sodface wrote: 
> 
> Can anyone provide any hints or forum links for standalone disconnected
> setups?

Have you seen this current thread?

https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115897-Start-music-from-USB-device-without-network=1046110=1#post1046110

The links in some of the replies there might be helpful.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Set prerred server?

2022-02-07 Thread Paul Webster


I brought up the same thing a while back when I ran a 2nd LMS so that I
could more easily work on plugin testing while someone else is listening
to stuff.
I agree that it is a bit of a pain.
Squeezelite and bridges migrate to the LMS that they can find if the one
that they were connected to disappears (e.g. restart on plugin update).

Setting the IP address in Squeezelite is a possible way of doing things
- but I have held off doing it because I have held off assigning IP
addresses to things (even in router) unless it is essential.
My reasoning behind this in a bit of a stretch but I like the idea that
I could change the IP address of the network (e.g. pick up the equipment
and move it to another building and it would, mostly, work).
Of course, other things that I have put in place (e.g. a router behind
the ISP router and even AirPort Express sitting in a travel bag
pre-configured as an access point with same SSID/passphrase as home)
mean that this is almost never going to be an issue ...



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] QLogitechMediaServer for Qnap with QTS 4.2 or higher and x86_64/I686/X86 support !

2022-02-07 Thread kazikskrz


Hello. 
I've installed 2.25.01 directly from QTS on my TS-351 device with no
errors.
Added some folders to library - worked fine but... I see "No Player" on
top on my screen. 
Why?
Appreciating your help.



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