Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Which Log for capturing potential cause of buffering internet radio streams

2022-04-05 Thread garym
Not to jinx things, but just reporting that doing nothing, I've not had any issues for 2 or more weeks. I'm chalking this up to some external internet provider short term issues that are now resolved. Fingers crossed. *Home:* Pi4B-8GB/pCP8.x/4TB>LMS 8.2.x>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Which Log for capturing potential cause of buffering internet radio streams

2022-03-23 Thread garym
bpa wrote: > The problem may not be within your network but still worth looking. I > had a network fault once and it was one of the four springy pins in the > ethernet socket was not straight but angled sideways. > > > > I think so - memory & detail is not great. IIRC Ethernet switches >

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Which Log for capturing potential cause of buffering internet radio streams

2022-03-23 Thread bpa
garym wrote: > yep, now the hard part, because problem is intermittent, and there are > lots of parts/cables from the wall to the modem to the LMS server to the > player. Any of which could have a fault generating an intermittent > issue. At least now the intermittent nature is once or twice

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Which Log for capturing potential cause of buffering internet radio streams

2022-03-23 Thread garym
yep, now the hard part, because problem is intermittent, and there are lots of parts/cables from the wall to the modem to the LMS server to the player. Any of which could have a fault generating an intermittent issue. At least now the intermittent nature is once or twice a day, versus every

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Which Log for capturing potential cause of buffering internet radio streams

2022-03-23 Thread bpa
callesoroe wrote: > Have you tried to switch to "Stream through Proxy" . This sometimes > helps on buffer issues To identify whether buffering was caused by LMS or external, "proxied" streaming was turned off as well as setting "Advanced/Network/Streaming mode" to normal. Those measure can

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Which Log for capturing potential cause of buffering internet radio streams

2022-03-23 Thread callesoroe
Have you tried to switch to "Stream through Proxy" . This sometimes helps on buffer issues Callesoroe Living room: Transporter, Preamp Gato PRD-3S NPM, Martin Logan Vista speakers, Power-AMP Gato DPA-4004 (biamp setup). Kitchen: Transporter - Prodipe Pro 5 active bi-amp speakers. Bedroom:

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Which Log for capturing potential cause of buffering internet radio streams

2022-03-23 Thread garym
thanks @bpa. This is very useful. I mostly wanted to eliminate something obvious about the player or the LMS server as a problem. I'm 99.9% sure that's true now (with your help). So my focus will be on the network. It's not other users, or other programs downloading/uploading (as this

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Which Log for capturing potential cause of buffering internet radio streams

2022-03-23 Thread bpa
garym wrote: > Finally had one of these rebuffering episodes (not synched, direct > playback to player, etc.). Was fine for several hours through 17:11 > time. Then at 19:18 time (excerpt below), it stopped and then > rebuffered before starting back playing. Note the "playerOutputUnderrun" >

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Which Log for capturing potential cause of buffering internet radio streams

2022-03-22 Thread garym
Finally had one of these rebuffering episodes (not synched, direct playback to player, etc.). Was fine for several hours through 17:11 time. Then at 19:18 time (excerpt below), it stopped and then rebuffered before starting back playing. Note the "playerOutputUnderrun" message when this

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Which Log for capturing potential cause of buffering internet radio streams

2022-03-22 Thread garym
bpa wrote: > The display during buffering with the percentage bothered me (i.e. was > the Preference setting involved - in your case 15 secs). So I just > checked the code and AFAICT the percentage is of a fixed number 5 secs > of 44.1kHz 2 channel 32bits/sample audio in the output buffer. > >

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Which Log for capturing potential cause of buffering internet radio streams

2022-03-22 Thread bpa
garym wrote: > thanks for the analysis. I'll run this setup for a while and wait for a > problem to occur. thanks so much for your detailed responses and help. The display during buffering with the percentage bothered me (i.e. was the Preference setting involved - in your case 15 secs). So I

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Which Log for capturing potential cause of buffering internet radio streams

2022-03-22 Thread garym
thanks for the analysis. I'll run this setup for a while and wait for a problem to occur. thanks so much for your detailed responses and help. *Home:* Pi4B-8GB/pCP8.x/4TB>LMS 8.2.x>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* rPi4B-4GB/pCP8.x/4TB>LMS 8.2.x>Touch>Benchmark DAC I,

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Which Log for capturing potential cause of buffering internet radio streams

2022-03-22 Thread bpa
garym wrote: > I've rebooted rPi with LMS and started playing again. With info, I now > see the playing of the radio stream in the log (and showing it is > direct). But what is this error about mp3. That seems odd. mp3 is set > to "native" in filetypes. How LMS evaluates formats and

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Which Log for capturing potential cause of buffering internet radio streams

2022-03-22 Thread garym
bpa wrote: > This setting is the initial buffer size in seconds - effectively it is > how much audio data should be in player buffer before LMS allows station > to start playing. However once data in the player buffer is depleted > (i.e. buffering message appears after radio has been playing

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Which Log for capturing potential cause of buffering internet radio streams

2022-03-22 Thread garym
bpa wrote: > Something odd with your logging. Perhaps didn't click Apply. The log > should look something like below. I've highlighted the key log entry to > show direct streaming. > I don't like the look that your system is trying to download a firmware > update but fails. That may cause

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Which Log for capturing potential cause of buffering internet radio streams

2022-03-22 Thread bpa
garym wrote: > What is the current value for WebUI Settings/Advanced/Network Radio > Station buffer seconds. *15, had been 3, but I increased to 15, and still get the rebuffering occasionally * This setting is the initial buffer size in seconds - effectively it is how much audio data should

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Which Log for capturing potential cause of buffering internet radio streams

2022-03-22 Thread bpa
garym wrote: > [B]Odd that with this set to INFO, I get almost nothing on the server > log. See attached. In fact, nothing at all showing from this morning, > March 22, 2022, post 7:00am. Something odd with your logging. Perhaps didn't click Apply. The log should look something like

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Which Log for capturing potential cause of buffering internet radio streams

2022-03-22 Thread garym
I set player.source to debug and I do now get info. Not clear that it is telling me that I am getting direct streaming of mp3/http. attached +---+ |Filename: server.log | |Download:

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Which Log for capturing potential cause of buffering internet radio streams

2022-03-22 Thread garym
bpa wrote: > It may take a bit of digging. Is there no Admin menu ? possibly with > Network Tools. My Virgin Modem has the following under > Admin/Advanced/Tools/Network Status - Configuration and network Log. At > least I can see what is configured at the time. > > Code:

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Which Log for capturing potential cause of buffering internet radio streams

2022-03-22 Thread bpa
garym wrote: > I can login to ISP modem. there is no item "quality", but all the > connections report OK, and there is nothing odd reported. Up time is 8 > days (I rebooted modem then). See pic: > > 37538 It may take a bit of diugging. Is there no Admin menu ? possibly with Network Tools.

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Which Log for capturing potential cause of buffering internet radio streams

2022-03-22 Thread garym
bpa wrote: > Separate line of inquiry. > > Can you log into ISP modem : > - What does modem say about "link to ISP" quality ? Is it different to > "normal" times ? > - look at line statistics ? Is there any unusual data activity happening > at this time (e.g. if using a cable service could DVR

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Which Log for capturing potential cause of buffering internet radio streams

2022-03-22 Thread garym
As Transporter cannot play AAC natively and no older SB player can handle HTTPS - a test stream has to be a HTTP/MP3 stream with no redirection to HTTPS. PLAYING MP3, HTTP STREAM: HTTP://AM820.WNYC.ORG/WNYCAM [/B] LMS SETTING ALSO IMPORTANT (BEFORE CHANGING, PLEASE RECORD AND REPORT THE

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Which Log for capturing potential cause of buffering internet radio streams

2022-03-22 Thread bpa
garym wrote: > *by intermittent, I mean that it may go many hours without buffering. > But when it does start buffering, it may buffer frequently over a short > window (every few minutes over a 30 minute window). In the past, I > would also notice very low UPLOAD speed at the same time, but

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Which Log for capturing potential cause of buffering internet radio streams

2022-03-22 Thread bpa
garym wrote: > The word "buffering with percentage count up" shows upon the screen of > either the CONTROLLER or the SqueezePlay "screen" (I still use > squeezeplay as a controller on my windows laptop, controlling the > TRANSPORTER). Seems to be true buffering (as in, after rebuffering it >

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Which Log for capturing potential cause of buffering internet radio streams

2022-03-21 Thread garym
mark wollschlager wrote: > A symptom of "March Madness"? > I have noticed the same, in general especially when a couple of games > were on. :o it is true that I notice this buffering less when my UPLOAD speed is normal (instead of extra slow, 1 to 3 Mbps). But DOWNLOAD speed is normal and I'd

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Which Log for capturing potential cause of buffering internet radio streams

2022-03-21 Thread garym
bpa wrote: > What is your network topology ? (e.g. some powerline devices have > intermittentd gaps in service - no loss with web page or files but > noticeable with audio/video) > What are the symptoms of "buffering" > Is it the word "buffering" appearing or gaps in audio without loss or >

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Which Log for capturing potential cause of buffering internet radio streams

2022-03-21 Thread mark wollschlager
A symptom of "March Madness"? I have noticed the same, in general especially when a couple of games were on. 2 Duets controllers, 1 X Boom, 1 X Radio 1 X Receiver + Edifier S1000DB 1 X Receiver + Yamaha RX-A2000, Polk M70 1 X Receiver + Boston MicroSystem CD Raspberry Pi 3 B+ HiFi Berry Amp2

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Which Log for capturing potential cause of buffering internet radio streams

2022-03-21 Thread bpa
What is your network topology ? (e.g. some powerline devices have intermittentd gaps in service - no loss with web page or files but noticeable with audio/video) What are the symptoms of "buffering" Is it the word "buffering" appearing or gaps in audio without loss or gaps where audio is lost

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Which Log for capturing potential cause of buffering internet radio streams

2022-03-21 Thread garym
bump. Any thoughts on which logs to set to debug? thanks. *Home:* Pi4B-8GB/pCP8.x/4TB>LMS 8.2.x>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* rPi4B-4GB/pCP8.x/4TB>LMS 8.2.x>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>foobar2000 *The Wild:

[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Which Log for capturing potential cause of buffering internet radio streams

2022-03-13 Thread garym
Which log(s) should I set to 'debug' in order to capture potential information on what is happening when my internet radio streams are buffering on my Transporter. Thanks. A few facts: - It is an intermittent problem (might happen every few minutes, but then go a few hours with no