Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing on a NAS
dhallag wrote: > yea you'll have to run two LMS's. since you have to run two LMS at two > different locations, I would just be sure they are on the same processor > ARM or x86 and operating system, this way you can just set up one, then > save the setup file and install that setup file to the other one. this > will really help when/if you need to reset one due to "issues" and they > will work the exact same way on both systems. Neither LMS runs on NAS but the storage is QNAP at both locations. I dont really get issues these days. Ive been running on Linux variants since I started with an SB3 in probably 2008!? VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109236 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing on a NAS
d6jg wrote: > I ran LMS on QNAP for quite a few years. Initially on a TS-109P and then > on a 4 bay TS-419. Both are ARM. > The 419 still hosts my media files but I now also have a TS-251 at a > remote location and use the built in Remote Replication to keep them in > sync. > I run an old HP Microserver here with a single SSD which runs a hacked > Vortexbox 2.4. The 419 is mounted via NFS and CDs rip straight to the > QNAP - yes I know the host OS of VB is out of date but it does exactly > what I want it to. The SSD holds only the VB install and LMS so the dB > is very fast. > At the remote location I have a Pi3 running piCorePlayer as LMS and > player connecting to the 251 by NFS. > > Would I run LMS directly on the 251? I suppose I could but I need the Pi > as a player there so I dont think Id gain much as at the Pi is more > than capable as I only need a single player at that location. > > The remote replication afforded by the 2 x QNAP means I have a full > remote backup and it works a treat. Anything I add to my main library is > available the following morning at the remote site. Media is not the > only data that is backed up this way. > I also use the old TS-109 for a local weekly backup. yea you'll have to run two LMS's. since you have to run two LMS at two different locations, I would just be sure they are on the same processor ARM or x86 and operating system, this way you can just set up one, then save the setup file and install that setup file to the other one. this will really help when/if you need to reset one due to "issues" and they will work the exact same way on both systems. LMS 7.9.1 on QNAP 219P+ 3 wired Touch End Points Jolida Tube DAC III Marantz 2270 to Boston Acoustics Slimlines Marantz 7010 to B CM10 S2 dhallag's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30845 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109236 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing on a NAS
I run LMS on my QNAP NAS using the Docker (container) method by Oyvindo (https://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?f=354=123933=LMS+docker) There is also a QNAP App package which is being developed by Freaksat (https://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?f=123=139286) and initially this worked fine for me. However I started getting duplicate albums so I reverted back to Docker. spile's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37780 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109236 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing on a NAS
Running LMS on my Synology DS 718+ (with upgraded RAM) and hosting 33.669 titels on there. I have not had any issue with this setup so far and would not see any reason to highly recommend it IF you need NAS functionality for other things. If not a NAS might be a bit of a heavy weight solution. Friends of mine run a couple of pi systems and are happy with it too. 3 * Boom, 1 * Radio, 1 * Touch, 1 SB Classic, 2 SB Duet, Server and music on Synology DS718+ Mercenary's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48563 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109236 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing on a NAS
dhallag wrote: > I have LMS running on a 10 year old QNAP NAS, the TS-219P+. It's an ARM > based processor NAS. There is a grace in running LMS on your NAS. I > would say if you want to go this route, definitely get an x86 processer > NAS and not an ARM based. This will allow you to install LMS from a > package that you can find here in the forums. Plus if you use MusicIP / > Spicefly, that will be a ton easier.. actually everything will actually > be easier. If you do get an ARM based processor, other then the > install, you'll have to manually install the SSL socket and getting > MusicIP to work is a challenge as well. > > In regards to your NAS, I think the question you have to ask yourself is > why are you purchasing a NAS? I have a two drive NAS and use mirroring, > so it's Raid 1. My next NAS will be a 4 bay so I can do Raid 1+0 > (mirroring and striping) -- that might be overkill as now a days as > there's enough free cloud storage to backup everything on your NAS to > the Cloud (so I have two redundancies), but it's nice to have a fast > local system. Once of my drives went bad a year ago and I was really > impressed that all I had to do was eject the old drive, insert the new > drive and the NAS did everything else with no intervention my me -- what > it's supposed to do. It was ridiculously simple. > > I use my NAS as a central place for my family to store documents and > media, LMS and for security camera video feed storage. I really don't > use much of the applications that QNAP has other than a weekly virus > scan and a weekly sync to my cloud storage. Then when I am not home, I > just grab what I need from the cloud storage. But I can tell you that > QNAP has a ridiculous number of media, utility and tools applications > and their support is stellar. > > From a power use perspective and ease of use, even though I haven't > tried it (yet), I agree with others here to use a raspberry pi. Another > idea is that if you have an old laptop laying around that's not too too > old, use that. if you're not a Linux guy, that might be easiest. > > good luck and let us know what you end up with. I ran LMS on QNAP for quite a few years. Initially on a TS-109P and then on a 4 bay TS-419. Both are ARM. The 419 still hosts my media files but I now also have a TS-251 at a remote location and use the built in Remote Replication to keep them in sync. I run an old HP Microserver here with a single SSD which runs a hacked Vortexbox 2.4. The 419 is mounted via NFS and CDs rip straight to the QNAP - yes I know the host OS of VB is out of date but it does exactly what I want it to. The SSD holds only the VB install and LMS so the dB is very fast. At the remote location I have a Pi3 running piCorePlayer as LMS and player connecting to the 251 by NFS. Would I run LMS directly on the 251? I suppose I could but I need the Pi as a player there so I dont think Id gain much as at the Pi is more than capable as I only need a single player at that location. The remote replication afforded by the 2 x QNAP means I have a full remote backup and it works a treat. Anything I add to my main library is available the following morning at the remote site. Media is not the only data that is backed up this way. I also use the old TS-109 for a local weekly backup. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109236 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing on a NAS
I have LMS running on a 10 year old QNAP NAS, the TS-219P+. It's an ARM based processor NAS. There is a grace in running LMS on your NAS. I would say if you want to go this route, definitely get an x86 processer NAS and not an ARM based. This will allow you to install LMS from a package that you can find here in the forums. Plus if you use MusicIP / Spicefly, that will be a ton easier.. actually everything will actually be easier. If you do get an ARM based processor, other then the install, you'll have to manually install the SSL socket and getting MusicIP to work is a challenge as well. In regards to your NAS, I think the question you have to ask yourself is why are you purchasing a NAS? I have a two drive NAS and use mirroring, so it's Raid 1. My next NAS will be a 4 bay so I can do Raid 1+0 (mirroring and striping) -- that might be overkill as now a days as there's enough free cloud storage to backup everything on your NAS to the Cloud (so I have two redundancies), but it's nice to have a fast local system. Once of my drives went bad a year ago and I was really impressed that all I had to do was eject the old drive, insert the new drive and the NAS did everything else with no intervention my me -- what it's supposed to do. It was ridiculously simple. I use my NAS as a central place for my family to store documents and media, LMS and for security camera video feed storage. I really don't use much of the applications that QNAP has other than a weekly virus scan and a weekly sync to my cloud storage. Then when I am not home, I just grab what I need from the cloud storage. But I can tell you that QNAP has a ridiculous number of media, utility and tools applications and their support is stellar. >From a power use perspective and ease of use, even though I haven't tried it (yet), I agree with others here to use a raspberry pi. Another idea is that if you have an old laptop laying around that's not too too old, use that. if you're not a Linux guy, that might be easiest. good luck and let us know what you end up with. LMS 7.9.1 on QNAP 219P+ 3 wired Touch End Points Jolida Tube DAC III Marantz 2270 to Boston Acoustics Slimlines Marantz 7010 to B CM10 S2 dhallag's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30845 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109236 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing on a NAS
Running LMS on a Synology NAS is doing a great job for me. Once you have installed the Synology app (package), you connect with a web browser. The user interface is the same as the windows based LMS. I have already installed it on three different Synology boxes. As Michael indicated, the current package versions are stable and work fine (see my blog http://wp.bioss.net/tag/squeezebox ). Hope this helps bioss's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68253 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109236 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing on a NAS
I have 2 instances of LMS running on QNAP NAS and with the new Qpkg provided by digimaster it runs as well as it has ever run on any other platform (windows or pi) - including the support for spotty with no issues, Musicip (included). Available in the EUclup qpkg repository iirc. It might only run on the later versions of QTS (later than 4.2) but just runs and maybe intel only, but check because I think he was considering expanding supported environments. I also run LMS on an Odroid and on a pi based on Max2play with an attached MSATA SSD for music (network wired) at work and is as close to plug and forget as you get (not bothered with MusicIP but use sugarcube to create dynamic mixes off the main NAS musicip database). Bottom line - unless you are running 10 year old hardware or out of date SW, LMS can run perfectly on a QNAP or a Synology, Pi or Odroid with no hassle or maintenance overhead. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk yeomanspc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=249 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109236 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing on a NAS
I have LMS running on a QNAP NAS, and I'm quite happy with it. I don't use the official QNAP LMS app, though. (they only support an old version, pretty out of date) And I wasn't interested in all the hoop jumping required to get the newer versions up and running directly. Instead, I use Docker. QNAP's Container Station lets you deploy your favorite Docker containers on your NAS, and there are a handful of LMS images on DockerHub. This version seems to be the most popular: https://hub.docker.com/r/larsks/logitech-media-server/ Container Station will let you pull down images directly from DockerHub. >From there, a little configuration through their GUI, and away you go. It does require a bit of Docker knowledge, but it isn't too hard to pick up. smcvick's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=27213 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109236 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing on a NAS
pinkdot wrote: > If you are buying a nas just to run LMS than I agree with you @d6jg. > If you need a NAS anyway, why not install LMS on if a software package > is available. Synology might be worth looking at. NAS these days are > powerful enough to gave a responsive LMS experience. I appreciate your involvement with Synology and if I was considering running on a NAS then I would, of course, choose Synology but in my case I have a perfectly good (3 actually) QNAP but its not powerful enough to run LMS. I prefer running on something else using an NFS mount to the QNAP. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109236 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing on a NAS
d6jg wrote:
> I concur that running LMS directly on a NAS is not the best approach
> these days.
>
If you are buying a nas just to run LMS than I agree with you @d6jg.
If you need a NAS anyway, why not install LMS on if a software package
is available. Synology might be worth looking at. NAS these days are
powerful enough to gave a responsive LMS experience.
-LMS on Raspian Stretch -> 2x Radio
-RPI 3 ('Mopidy' (https://www.mopidy.com/)), Aune S6 - Exposure 3010S2
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing on a NAS
I concur that running LMS directly on a NAS is not the best approach these days. I used to run on a QNAP but like others found that firmware updates caused serious issues which although I could always fix simply took up too much time. I initially moved LMS to a different Linux server but have always kept my music files on the QNAP which like Michael's ReadyNAS is now pretty ancient but still perfect as a file server. Later on I moved to a Pi + NAS setup and latterly back to a Linux server + NAS (I also run some other media software on the Linux box) If you are looking for a low power always on arrangement then Pi + NAS is the way to go. The Pi really needs to be wired though - it will work wireless but is prone to networking issues that you really don't need. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109236 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing on a NAS
I used to run LMS on a QNAP NAS, but I found it a hassle to maintain. Now I keep the files on the NAS and run LMS on a Raspberry Pi, which seems to work well for me. The Pi is running piCorePlayer. Robert *Home: *Raspberry Pi 3/piCoreplayer/LMS7.9.2 with files on QNAP TS-251A Touch > DacMagic 100 > Naim Audio Nait 3 > Mission 752 (plus Rega Planar 3 > Rega Fono Mini; Naim CD3) PiCorePlayer(Pi2) with IQAudIO DAC+>Sennheisers 2 x Squeezebox Radios, 1 X Squeezebox 3 (retired), spare Pi2/piCorePlayer *Office:* LMS7.9.2 running on WiFi MyPassport drive > piCorePlayer(PiB)/HiFiBerryDAC > Amptastic Amplifier SqueezePad, iPeng as controllers last.fm/user/GrumpyBob Grumpy Bob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41857 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109236 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
