Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-09 Thread Paul Webster


I suspect that LMS, running as a Windows service, can see mapped drives
- so would not be able to access m:\



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-09 Thread bakker_be


If UNC path doesn't work for LMS in your case, just map the music drive
on both PC's to the same drive letter:

- LMS PC: M-drive points to \\NAS\MusicFolder
- MusicBee computer: M-drive points to \\NAS\MusicFolder
  
This way, in theory at least, as I don't know the way this program
works, MusicBee will create the playlists with the "absolute" reference
(m:\artist\album\song.mp3) instead of the "relative" reference
(\\server\musicfolder\artist\album\song.mp3), which will be identical to
what LMS sees. That is actually what you need to try and obtain: LMS &
MusicBee seeing exactly the same thing from an OS point of view,
accessing it in exactly the same way.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-08 Thread slartibartfast

d6jg wrote: 
> On the LMS pc if you do Start, Run type \\server\path and press enter
> what happens?
> 
> Edit. Forget that, it will work. I’ve just remembered reading somewhere
> before that LMS on Windows doesn’t like UNC paths. 
> 
> Medium term you may well be advised to move LMS to a Pi but keep your
> files on the NAS. With some clever symlinks you’d provably be able to
> get the count correct and keep your playlists as they are

When I tried adding my Pi library to my Windows LMS I used a UNC path
and it worked OK. What is the issue with UNC paths in Windows?

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-07 Thread phred


d6jg wrote: 
> 
> Medium term you may well be advised to move LMS to a Pi but keep your
> files on the NAS.playlists as they are
I've thought about a Pi on and off for many years. Still haven't pulled
the trigger. And not sure that I will.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-07 Thread d6jg


phred wrote: 
> You are correct in that the playlists point to the tracks as
> \\server\path.
> 
> And the playlist directory is W:\ which is now a mapped drive on the PC
> where MusicBee lives. For whatever reason, the PC where LMS lives
> wouldn't accept the UNC path either to the music files on the NAS
> (mapped as Z:) nor to the playlist directory on the other PC (mapped as
> W:).
> 
> Everything seems to be working now. You know the expression "If it ain't
> broke, don't fix it" so I'm not going to change anything until it all
> goes south. Until then, there are playlists to listen to.

On the LMS pc if you do Start, Run type \\server\path and press enter
what happens?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-07 Thread phred

d6jg wrote: 
> Look at a playlist and you’ll probably find the tracks are not listed as
> in Z: but in \\server\path
> 
> If they are then you can correct the count without recreating the
> playlists by pointing LMS at \\server\path instead of Z: you can leave
> W: as it is or change that as well

You are correct in that the playlists point to the tracks as
\\server\path.

And the playlist directory is W:\ which is now a mapped drive on the PC
where MusicBee lives. For whatever reason, the PC where LMS lives
wouldn't accept the UNC path either to the music files on the NAS
(mapped as Z:) nor to the playlist directory on the other PC (mapped as
W:).

Everything seems to be working now. You know the expression "If it ain't
broke, don't fix it" so I'm not going to change anything until it all
goes south. Until then, there are playlists to listen to.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-07 Thread d6jg

phred wrote: 
> Here's the final (manual) scan results. The playlists are back in the
> scan. And the number of tracks showing in the control panel has once
> again jumped to about 20k more than the actual number of tracks. So the
> tracks referenced in the playlist are definitely being added to the
> total count of tracks. Now that I understand the reasons for the
> mismatched count, I will leave the scanning to "look for new and changed
> media files" and let it run automatically once every twenty-four hours.
> 
> And just a note - before you tell me that there were 92 playlists
> originally and now there are 91 discovered and 89 scanned, I deleted
> one. And two of them are MusicBee playlists that are in the playlist
> directory, but are only readable by MusicBee. So it's not an issue.
> 
> '[image: http://i.imgur.com/8WHAW3cl.jpg]'
> (https://i.imgur.com/8WHAW3c.jpg)
> 
> '[image: http://i.imgur.com/fWCbQicl.jpg]'
> (https://i.imgur.com/fWCbQic.jpg)
> 
> Thanks again to all that helped me.

Look at a playlist and you’ll probably find the tracks are not listed as
in Z: but in \\server\path

If they are then you can correct the count without recreating the
playlists by pointing LMS at \\server\path instead of Z: you can leave
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-07 Thread phred


Here's the final (manual) scan results. The playlists are back in the
scan. And the number of tracks showing in the control panel has once
again jumped to about 20k more than the actual number of tracks. So the
tracks referenced in the playlist are definitely being added to the
total count of tracks. Now that I understand the reasons for the
mismatched count, I will leave the scanning to "look for new and changed
media files" and let it run automatically once every twenty-four hours.

And just a note - before you tell me that there were 92 playlists
originally and now there are 91 discovered and 89 scanned, I deleted
one. And two of them are MusicBee playlists that are in the playlist
directory, but are only readable by MusicBee. So it's not an issue.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-07 Thread phred


bakker_be wrote: 
> Indeed, but this maybe makes it a little clearer for the less
> technically minded ;)
Thanks for the explanation. While I'm far from a luddite, and don't
consider myself technically challenged, I do sometimes struggle with
networking issues and the finer points of LMS.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-07 Thread phred


kidstypike wrote: 
> But your scan shows you no longer have any playlists.
> The screenshot of a clear and rescan in your post #27 shows you had 90
> playlists.
Yes, I noticed that last night when I went to listen to a playlist. 
I'm working on that. It appears there is/was a typo in the path.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-07 Thread slartibartfast


bakker_be wrote: 
> Indeed, but this maybe makes it a little clearer for the less
> technically minded ;)Agreed [emoji106]

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-07 Thread bakker_be


slartibartfast wrote: 
> A more detailed form of what I said then. [emoji3]
> 
> https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=1017913
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk
Indeed, but this maybe makes it a little clearer for the less
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-07 Thread slartibartfast


bakker_be wrote: 
> The "problem" with the playlists is actually quite simple. Let me detail
> it for you:
> LMS:
> >   >   > 
  - Lives on Win10 box
  - Sees music files on a mapped drive. This is considered a "local"
  > file, as in "This disc is physically attached to this PC". The way
  > in which it's attached is transparent/invisible
  > > > 
> MusicBee:
> >   >   > 
  - Lives on another Win10 box
  - Modifies/creates playlists with UNC path (\\server-ip\share). This
  > is considered a "remote" file, as in "we don't have a physical
  > connection to this disc"
  > > > 
> Scanner:
> >   >   > 
  - Starts of with the music files it considers as "local", being
  > those on the mapped drive
  - Then it finds the playlists, where music files are being pointed
  > to as "remote" files
  - It tries to access those files, obviously succeeds, and adds them
  > to the results
  > > > 
> This has nothing to do with LMS in itself, it's really an OS thing.
> Mapped drives are considered local resources, whereas giving a UNC
> path is always considered as being remote. To solve this issue, and
> still be able to scan your playlists, just replace the "mapped drive"
> reference in LMS with the same UNC-path you find in your playlists.A more 
> detailed form of what I said then. [emoji3]

https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=1017913

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-07 Thread bakker_be


The "problem" with the playlists is actually quite simple. Let me detail
it for you:
LMS:

- Lives on Win10 box
- Sees music files on a mapped drive. This is considered a "local"
  file, as in "This disc is physically attached to this PC". The way in
  which it's attached is transparent/invisible
  
MusicBee:

- Lives on another Win10 box
- Modifies/creates playlists with UNC path (\\server-ip\share). This
  is considered a "remote" file, as in "we don't have a physical
  connection to this disc"
  
Scanner:

- Starts of with the music files it considers as "local", being those
  on the mapped drive
- Then it finds the playlists, where music files are being pointed to
  as "remote" files
- It tries to access those files, obviously succeeds, and adds them to
  the results
  
This has nothing to do with LMS in itself, it's really an OS thing.
Mapped drives are considered local resources, whereas giving a UNC path
is always considered as being remote. To solve this issue, and still be
able to scan your playlists, just replace the "mapped drive" reference
in LMS with the same UNC-path you find in your playlists.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-07 Thread kidstypike


phred wrote: 
> It seems there were only a couple of hundred tracks that had APE tags
> (along side ID3v2) and I deleted all the APEs. I then scanned "clear and
> rescan library" and now the results match. But surely the removal of APE
> tags from a couple of hundred tracks couldn't account for the huge
> discrepancy in excess of 20,000 files. But I'm not going to lose any
> sleep over this. I got a match and I'm happy.
> 
> '[image: http://i.imgur.com/CEWaGq9l.jpg]'
> (https://i.imgur.com/CEWaGq9.jpg)
> 
> '[image: http://i.imgur.com/ntRZ4AXl.jpg]'
> (https://i.imgur.com/ntRZ4AX.jpg)


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-06 Thread phred


phred wrote: 
> Once I get the APE eliminated, I'll do another full clear and rescan
> scan and post the results. Should be by the weekend if not before.
It seems there were only a couple of hundred tracks that had APE tags
(along side ID3v2) and I deleted all the APEs. I then scanned "clear and
rescan library" and now the results match. But surely the removal of APE
tags from a couple of hundred tracks couldn't account for the huge
discrepancy in excess of 20,000 files. But I'm not going to lose any
sleep over this. I got a match and I'm happy.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-06 Thread slartibartfast


phred wrote: 
> The music file directory on the NAS is mapped as "Z:" on the PC where
> LMS and the playlists live. IOW, they both point to the same directory.They 
> might map.to the same directory but LMS might see them as different
because the paths are not exactly the same. i.e they contain different
characters.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-06 Thread phred


kidstypike wrote: 
> I think you should get rid of those Ape tags, they seem to be causing
> problems.
> But this scan doesn't include the playlists which would've been of more
> interest.

Thanks for reminding me. I never realized I had APE tags until I saw
them referenced on the log. I -thought- they were all being saved as
ID3v2.3 and ID3v1. I -think- MusicBee can do a search and replace. I'll
need to look into that. I'm sure MP3TAG can do it.

Once I get the APE eliminated, I'll do another full clear and rescan
scan and post the results. Should be by the weekend if not before.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-06 Thread phred


BosseJ wrote: 
> In your earlier post where you showed the scan result, the log said that
> tracks were discovered on drive Z: but in the playlist track example you
> showed the path was directly to the NAS, no "Z:" drive involved.
The music file directory on the NAS is mapped as "Z:" on the PC where
LMS and the playlists live. IOW, they both point to the same directory.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-06 Thread BosseJ


phred wrote: 
> LMS lives on the C: drive of a Win10 Pro PC.
> The playlists are on the D: drive of the same machine.
> All the music files are on a NAS.
> 
> There are no music files anywhere else. Not even the music listed in the
> playlists, which as you know, are only text files, which point to the
> actual music file on the NAS.
> 
> My music manager is MusicBee. It lives on another Win10 Pro box.
> Whenever there's a change to a playlist, MusicBee automatically updates
> the playlist. Which is exported to the box where LMS and the playlists
> live. The path referencing each track in a playlist is mapped to the
> NAS. There are no music files whatsoever on that machine. Here's a
> sample line from a playlist:
> > 
Code:

  >   > File4536=\\192.168.xxx.xxx\Music_Files\Neil Young\New York 1970\7 - 
Helpless.mp3
  > Title4536=Helpless
  > Length4536=243

> > 

If MusicBee rewrites the paths to the tracks in playlists maybe LMS gets
confused and decides that the tracks referenced in the playlists are new
tracks not scanned before. In your earlier post where you showed the
scan result, the log said that tracks were discovered on drive Z: but in
the playlist track example you showed the path was directly to the NAS,
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-06 Thread kidstypike


phred wrote: 
> You say that like it's the first time you've seen something that can't
> be explained with PCs. :o
> 
> Not thirty minutes ago my wife told me she can't log on to our banking
> website. I tried on her PC and there was an expired security
> certificate. I went to my PC (running the same version of Win10, running
> the same version of Firefox) and I could log on. Go figure. I told her
> to use my PC until I can figure it out.


I think you should get rid of those Ape tags, they seem to be causing
problems.

But this scan doesn't include the playlists which would've been of more
interest.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-06 Thread phred


kidstypike wrote: 
> Okay, well I can't unravel that one. But it's obviously the reason why
> it's adding the playlist tracks to your total number of tracks, and my
> playlists don't. :confused:
You say that like it's the first time you've seen something that can't
be explained with PCs. :o

Not thirty minutes ago my wife told me she can't log on to our banking
website. I tried on her PC and there was an expired security
certificate. I went to my PC (running the same version of Win10, running
the same version of Firefox) and I could log on. Go figure. I told her
to use my PC until I can figure it out.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-06 Thread phred


kidstypike wrote: 
> 
> Any chance of a look at your scanner log.
Sure. I noticed a number of Warnings in the log. "Tag larger than
maximum possible size" and "Header and footer size to not match." I did
a spot-check search for some of the tracks showing those errors, and
they've been scanned, are in "My Music" are are playable.

Here's the log...
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-06 Thread kidstypike


phred wrote: 
> LMS lives on the C: drive of a Win10 Pro PC.
> The playlists are on the D: drive of the same machine.
> All the music files are on a NAS.
> 
> There are no music files anywhere else. Not even the music listed in the
> playlists, which as you know, are only text files, which point to the
> actual music file on the NAS.
> 
> My music manager is MusicBee. It lives on another Win10 Pro box.
> Whenever there's a change to a playlist, MusicBee automatically updates
> the playlist. Which is exported to the box where LMS and the playlists
> live. The path referencing each track in a playlist is mapped to the
> NAS. There are no music files whatsoever on that machine. Here's a
> sample line from a playlist:
> > 
Code:

  >   > File4536=\\192.168.xxx.xxx\Music_Files\Neil Young\New York 1970\7 - 
Helpless.mp3
  > Title4536=Helpless
  > Length4536=243

> > 

Okay, well I can't unravel that one. But it's obviously the reason why
it's adding the playlist tracks to your total number of tracks, and my
playlists don't. :confused:



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-06 Thread phred


kidstypike wrote: 
> I think those playlists must point to other music files on another
> drive.
LMS lives on the C: drive of a Win10 Pro PC.
The playlists are on the D: drive of the same machine.
All the music files are on a NAS.

There are no music files anywhere else. Not even the music listed in the
playlists, which as you know, are only text files, which point to the
actual music file on the NAS.

My music manager is MusicBee. It lives on another Win10 Pro box.
Whenever there's a change to a playlist, MusicBee automatically updates
the playlist. Which is exported to the box where LMS and the playlists
live. The path referencing each track in a playlist is mapped to the
NAS. There are no music files whatsoever on that machine. Here's a
sample line from a playlist:

Code:

File4536=\\192.168.xxx.xxx\Music_Files\Neil Young\New York 1970\7 - 
Helpless.mp3
  Title4536=Helpless
  Length4536=243




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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-06 Thread kidstypike


phred wrote: 
> Which, at least in my case, is somewhat redundant. If it's in one of my
> playlists, it's in my library. And since I have some playlists that are
> "decades" (1940s, 1950s, etc) there could be a huge number of
> "duplicates." Just one example: my 1970s playlist consists of 6,308
> tracks. So that 59-thousand and change that showed earlier, consisted of
> 6,308 tracks that are in a playlist and in my library. Other decades
> playlists have a large number of tracks also. 
> 
> It would be nice if one could specify which playlists to include as LMS
> can display songs by year. So I could not scan the nine decades
> playlists.
> 
> It really doesn't matter at this point as I (we) now know what's going
> on and why.
> 
> Again - thanks to everyone who pitched in.


I'm not sure you do know what's going on.

I have 28 playlists that point to music files on the USB drive that LMS
scans, total number of tracks in those 28 playlists is 3,557 (I added
them up), these 3,557 tracks *are not added* to the total number of
tracks in the scan.

My playlist scan took 22 seconds, in the screenshot of your aborted scan
your playlist scan took over 27 minutes, there's something going on that
you're not aware of. My belief is the paths in your playlists point to
music files on another drive.

Any chance of a look at your scanner log.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-06 Thread slartibartfast


I just pointed my Windows 10 server at the same library that my Pi uses.

Windows total tracks   56,269
Pi total tracks.   56,286
Total albums is the same on both.
I have no clue which tracks are missing in the Windows library [emoji3]
I also had two playlists on the Pi server which I removed and they
didn't change the total tracks.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-06 Thread phred


slartibartfast wrote: 
> So the tracks total includes tracks in playlists.
Which, at least in my case, is somewhat redundant. If it's in one of my
playlists, it's in my library. And since I have some playlists that are
"decades" (1940s, 1950s, etc) there could be a huge number of
"duplicates." Just one example: my 1970s playlist consists of 6,308
tracks. So that 59-thousand and change that showed earlier, consisted of
6,308 tracks that are in a playlist and in my library. Other decades
playlists have a large number of tracks also. 

It would be nice if one could specify which playlists to include as LMS
can display songs by year. So I could not scan the nine decades
playlists.

It really doesn't matter at this point as I (we) now know what's going
on and why.

Again - thanks to everyone who pitched in.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-06 Thread kidstypike


slartibartfast wrote: 
> So the tracks total includes tracks in playlists. I had no idea. I don't
> have many playlists though so it doesn't have an obvious effect on my
> total.

I think those playlists must point to other music files on another
drive.

In the screenshot below if you add up the total number of music files in
the 5 folders that LMS scans it comes to 1 less (bummer!) than the total
count. 

I have 28 playlists, some of which are fairly hefty, they don't appear
in the total count.

34105


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|Filename: totals.jpg   |
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-06 Thread slartibartfast


phred wrote: 
> And we have a winner!!
> '[image: http://i.imgur.com/9EqTOXel.jpg]'
> (https://i.imgur.com/9EqTOXe.jpg)
> '[image: http://i.imgur.com/F38zI5Kl.jpg]'
> (https://i.imgur.com/F38zI5K.jpg)
> 
> Now to go add the playlists back in and promise myself not to look
> back.
> 
> Thanks!So the tracks total includes tracks in playlists. I had no idea. I 
> don't
have many playlists though so it doesn't have an obvious effect on my
total.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-06 Thread phred


kidstypike wrote: 
> Well we're getting somewhere. :)
> If it were me, I'd remove the playlists folder path from Settings/Basic
> Settings, do a clear and rescan, and have a look at the numbers again.
And we have a winner!!
'[image: http://i.imgur.com/9EqTOXel.jpg]'
(https://i.imgur.com/9EqTOXe.jpg)
'[image: http://i.imgur.com/F38zI5Kl.jpg]'
(https://i.imgur.com/F38zI5K.jpg)

Now to go add the playlists back in and promise myself not to look
back.

Thanks!



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-06 Thread kidstypike


phred wrote: 
> Uninstalling the plugin and starting a new clear and rescan resulted in
> a complete scan. Thank you for that.
> But the numbers remain pretty much the same. 
> '[image: http://i.imgur.com/MxMygEMl.jpg]'
> (https://i.imgur.com/MxMygEM.jpg)
> '[image: http://i.imgur.com/SvQyPgcl.jpg]'
> (https://i.imgur.com/SvQyPgc.jpg)
> 
> I'm going to chalk it up to what a couple of folks here said - it's
> including not only the files, but the directories also. 
> And I'm satisfied that the scan is running properly and I don't really
> have to look at the statistics again unless something really  screwy
> happens.
> 
> Thanks to all who replied.

Well we're getting somewhere. :)

If it were me, I'd remove the playlists folder path from Settings/Basic
Settings, do a clear and rescan, and have a look at the numbers again.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-06 Thread phred


kidstypike wrote: 
> Either uninstall the plugin "Full text search" or install a more recent
> version of LMS.
Uninstalling the plugin and starting a new clear and rescan resulted in
a complete scan. Thank you for that.
But the numbers remain pretty much the same. 
'[image: http://i.imgur.com/MxMygEMl.jpg]'
(https://i.imgur.com/MxMygEM.jpg)
'[image: http://i.imgur.com/SvQyPgcl.jpg]'
(https://i.imgur.com/SvQyPgc.jpg)

I'm going to chalk it up to what a couple of folks here said - it's
including not only the files, but the directories also. 
And I'm satisfied that the scan is running properly and I don't really
have to look at the statistics again unless something really  screwy
happens.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-06 Thread kidstypike


phred wrote: 
> Except everything being scanned is on a NAS and the only files in the
> directory being scanned are MP3, .txt (lyrics,) and .jpg (artwork.)
> There is no Spotify. There is no OneDrive.
> 
> But there is definitely a problem somewhere. I initiated a 'clear and
> rescan all' and the scan apparently hung at "building full text index (3
> of 7) as that phase of the scan has been running for almost three hours
> and the only thing changing is the elapsed time. Could this be a corrupt
> database? A corrupt media file? I'm am aborting the scan.
> 
> Suggestions? Fixes?
> 
> '[image: http://i.imgur.com/m4zwK1sl.jpg]'
> (https://i.imgur.com/m4zwK1s.jpg)

Either uninstall the plugin "Full text search" or install a more recent
version of LMS.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-06 Thread phred


Grumpy Bob wrote: 
> Anyway, phred's question was why doesn't the reported total number of
> tracks correspond to the number or tracks on the drive and reported in
> the database.
> 
> In my case the total number of tracks = the sum of the number of tracks
> I have on the hard drive + the number of tracks I have in my Spotify
> library. In my latest scan, which was a clear and rescan, I see the
> following.
> 
> See my earlier post. I think that is a possible explanation for the
> discrepancy.
> 
Except everything being scanned is on a NAS and the only files in the
directory being scanned are MP3, .txt (lyrics,) and .jpg (artwork.)
There is no Spotify. There is no OneDrive.

But there is definitely a problem somewhere. I initiated a 'clear and
rescan all' and the scan apparently hung at "building full text index (3
of 7) as that phase of the scan has been running for almost three hours
and the only thing changing is the elapsed time. Could this be a corrupt
database? A corrupt media file? I'm am aborting the scan.

Suggestions? Fixes?

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-06 Thread kidstypike


Grumpy Bob wrote: 
> Anyway, phred's question was why doesn't the reported total number of
> tracks correspond to the number or tracks on the drive and reported in
> the database.
> 
> In my case the total number of tracks = the sum of the number of tracks
> I have on the hard drive + the number of tracks I have in my Spotify
> library. In my latest scan, which was a clear and rescan, I see the
> following.
> 
> In *Library Statistics*
> Total Tracks = 41,893
> 
> In *Spotty*
> Total Tracks = 6,264
> 
> In *Media Scan Details*
> 35,629 new music files were scanned
> 
> See my earlier post. I think that is a possible explanation for the
> discrepancy.
> 
> Robert

Yes, I think it's common knowledge that the first line of a scan counts
files and directories  *945* in example below, of which only *872* are
music files.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-06 Thread Grumpy Bob


Anyway, phred's question was why doesn't the reported total number of
tracks correspond to the number or tracks on the drive and reported in
the database.

In my case the total number of tracks = the sum of the number of tracks
I have on the hard drive + the number of tracks I have in my Spotify
library. In my latest scan, which was a clear and rescan, I see the
following.

In *Library Statistics*
Total Tracks = 41,893

In *Spotty*
Total Tracks = 6,264

In *Media Scan Details*
35,629 new music files were scanned

See my earlier post. I think that is a possible explanation for the
discrepancy.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-06 Thread slartibartfast


phred wrote: 
> Because that's what I set it to do on the first tab of the control
> panel.Well it didn't scan any files.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-06 Thread phred


kidstypike wrote: 
> Or you may be mistaken.
> Or it hasn't completed properly.
> 
> Below are screenshots for a small library.
> 
> Compare then to your screenshot, nuff said.
> 
If I'm mistaken it's because LMS didn't do what I selected. I do see the
difference in your two screenshots. As I stated, I selected "clear
library and rescan everything." If that's not what LMS is doing (did)
then someone will have to show me how to correct that.

I am about to run a clear and rescan right now and I will report back
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-06 Thread phred


slartibartfast wrote: 
> This may be a daft question but how can you tell?
> 
Because that's what I set it to do on the first tab of the control
panel.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-06 Thread slartibartfast


phred wrote: 
> Yes, the screenshot is the result of a Clear and rescan action. Whether
> it appears to be or not, it is.This may be a daft question but how can you 
> tell?

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-06 Thread kidstypike


phred wrote: 
> Yes, the screenshot is the result of a Clear and rescan action. Whether
> it appears to be or not, it is.

Or you may be mistaken.
Or it hasn't completed properly.

Below are screenshots for a small library.

Compare then to your screenshot, nuff said.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-06 Thread slartibartfast


phred wrote: 
> Yes, the screenshot is the result of a Clear and rescan action. Whether
> it appears to be or not, it is.Anything in the scanner log? 

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-05 Thread Grumpy Bob


phred wrote: 
> I suppose that's a possibility as each artist has their own directory,
> and under that is a directory for each album.

And do you use any streaming services? 

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-05 Thread phred


bpa wrote: 
> Any use of CUE files - where thee canbe multiple tracks in a single file
> ?
No, no cue sheets. All music files are MP3. And there are no streaming
service files present.

Most tracks have lyrics as a separate text file within the directory
where the album lives. And each album has an artwork (cover) image in
the same directory. 
Is it possible those are being counted?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-05 Thread phred


Grumpy Bob wrote: 
>  but I have always assumed that the discovering files/directories count
> will be higher than the final number of tracks, because it includes the
> folder structure.
> 
I suppose that's a possibility as each artist has their own directory,
and under that is a directory for each album.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-05 Thread phred


slartibartfast wrote: 
> Did you say the screenshot was of a "Clear and rescan"? It doesn"t
> appear to be.
> 
Yes, the screenshot is the result of a Clear and rescan action. Whether
it appears to be or not, it is.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-05 Thread bpa


Any use of CUE files - where thee canbe multiple tracks in a single file
?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-05 Thread SpiderJon


kidstypike wrote: 
> It should be "Scanning *new* music files" if it's a clear & rescan,
> because it's database no longer exists, so every music file is "new",
> not "changed".

Agreed.  Not enough coffee at this end for "educated" guesswork :)



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-05 Thread SpiderJon


kidstypike wrote: 
> Don't agree, a clear and rescan second line would be "Scanning new music
> files".
> 

Good point.  You're right.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-05 Thread kidstypike


SpiderJon wrote: 
> I suspect you only get that if it discovers new (rather than just
> changed) music files during the "Discovering" phase.

It should be "Scanning *new* music files" if it's a clear & rescan,
because it's database no longer exists, so every music file is "new",
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-05 Thread SpiderJon


slartibartfast wrote: 
> Where is "Scanning new music files" after Discovering files? 
> 
> 

I suspect you only get that if it discovers new (rather than just
changed) music files during the "Discovering" phase.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-05 Thread kidstypike


SpiderJon wrote: 
> I think it is.  If it were just a "scan for new and changed" the second
> line would be "Scanning changed files", rather than "Discovering
> playlists".

Don't agree, a clear and rescan second line would be "Scanning new music
files".

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-05 Thread slartibartfast


SpiderJon wrote: 
> I think it is.  If it were just a "scan for new and changed" the second
> line would be "Scanning changed files", rather than "Discovering
> playlists".Where is "Scanning new music files" after Discovering files? 

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-05 Thread SpiderJon


slartibartfast wrote: 
> Did you say the screenshot was of a "Clear and rescan"? It doesn't
> appear to be.
> 

I think it is.  If it were just a "scan for new and changed" the second
line would be "Scanning changed files", rather than "Discovering
playlists".



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-05 Thread Grumpy Bob


It occurs to me that maybe the "Total Tracks" includes tracks from
streaming services as well as the local library?

I did a rescan on a backup server and it shows;
Total tracks 41,855
Scanned files 35,607
Spotty tracks 6,248

The value for total tracks is the sum of scanned files plus Spotty
tracks.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-05 Thread slartibartfast


phred wrote: 
> Using LMS 7.9.4 - 1603273368 one a Win10 PC.
> 
> I have LMS set to do a media scan daily at 1845. Usually just an update
> of new and changed files. I've been noticing that during the past few
> days the scan numbers don't match the actual results. Today I did a
> "clear library and rescan everything" and the numbers are even odder
> than previously. As you can see in the screenshot, it's showing total
> tracks at 59,786 which discovering 38,856. The lower number is closer to
> reality, which is actually 36,347. I don't really care much (at this
> point) in a 2,500 track difference. But I do care about a difference of
> more than 20,000.  Can anyone explain why that might be happening? And
> more importantly, how to correct it?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> '[image: http://i.imgur.com/2EiRqA0l.jpg]'
> (https://i.imgur.com/2EiRqA0.jpg)Did you say the screenshot was of a "Clear 
> and rescan"? It doesn"t
appear to be.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Media Count Discrepancy

2021-04-04 Thread Grumpy Bob


I can't say why the scan report has such a high initial track count, but
I have always assumed that the discovering files/directories count will
be higher than the final number of tracks, because it includes the
folder structure.

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