If any of you ladies or gentlemen plan on being in the Salt Lake City area and have
some time to kill there is a great Ga. 1 model RR at Thanksgiving Point. It is about
25 miles south of Salt Lake off of I-15. They claim over a mile of track (all
stainless steel).
There is also a
Walt-
In my case I have been frantically trying to get everything ready to
start on our (wife and mine) yearlong trip around the U.S.. Our plan is to
depart the 16th of this month for Southern Oregon then East to Salt Lake,
North to Montana then east to Minnesota for a month or so.
In a message dated 01-05-02 07:50:19 EDT, you write:
Will the distilled water conduct enough current to actually be of use?
If I recall correctly from many, many years ago in chemestry that
distilled water will not conduct electrical current. I may be wrong but
there has to be
In a message dated 01-04-27 02:48:02 EDT, you write:
Can any of you mossbacks tell us what's really going on at the convention
Mossback I resemble that remark!!! Unfortunately I do not have
much information on what is going on up north in Seattle area. I do know
there is a
Test message
So where are the questions?? Did I pass?
In a message dated 01-04-11 22:02:34 EDT, you write:
If anyone has trouble figuring out which show it is I would be happy
to ask my sister.
Please do and post it for us here. My wife is addicted to HG TV so I would
have no trouble watching it as opposed to the old war movies that I like.
Has anyone ever taken the top nut off the turret? If that goes thru into
the boiler,
I have had my Ruby almost totally disassembled. I doubt if there is
enough space for a small tube, unless it was a very small tube, to go
through the nut and into the boiler without restricting
Harry
Years ago, before I decided I would rather burn my fingers with a live
steam locomotive, I was one of those "miserable weldors" at a truck
manufacturing company. I was taught to weld by an old WW II welder that when
he got mad at you would make you spend a day welding with
Chris Wolcot
Nice piece of work on your Ruby. Great pictures too. Did you increase your
operating pressure to help increase the run time?
Salty
In a message dated 01-03-26 13:28:26 EST, you write:
I had it apart that one piston was much 'tighter' than the other side was.
Any
ideas on what is causing that and how to fix it? (It still does not have a
LOT
of time on it, so it may not be fully 'run-in' yet.)
I would guess that
aristo-craft, accucraft ... whatever ;-) = senior moment!!!
It is hell to get old!!
Ferdinand -
Thanks for posting this page. I printed it out for future reference (13
pages). After I return from my great adventure I may attempt to build the
furnace, I think I will pass on the lathe.
http://incolor.inetnebr.com/bill_r/fun_with_molten_metal.htm
Where is it you are
I don't mean the bar!)--altho that's a good retreat.
Geoff.
I could swear that I found you in the bar more than out at the tracks at
DH01!
or was that just a fluke!!
Salty
Are Ruby's wheels insulated?
I don't know if the new ones are but mine are definitely not as my
smoking power supply can attest
Salty
In a message dated 01-03-21 09:54:56 EST, you write:
My own method adds a couple of steps to the process, pre-turning in
a sense, so that I locate the finished wheel shape (rims, faces, spokes,
bosses, etc,) in the best location within the rough casting and get it
"square" before I really
In a message dated 01-03-21 11:55:15 EST, you write:
Was there a BAR at DH? All I knew about was running trains!
Yea right Walt!!!
In a message dated 01-03-20 04:32:21 EST, you write:
blacken copper /brasses/ but not all bronzes and not silver solder.
There is a product called Liver of Sulphur that will turn silver solder
black. It is sold at jewelry supply stores. I bought some to color brass,
it didn't , but all the
Just in time to spend that tax refund!
Ah - What is a "tax refund" ?
I only wish!!
Salty
In a message dated 01-03-19 09:46:01 EST, you write:
I hope this link gets through as majordomo rejected my
previous emails as containing "attachments" which aren't
permitted. Maybe this will work.
Royce -
Since that list went to Yahoo I have not been able to access it. I have
batted
falling into the "better late than never" category are pictures from
last week's bay area garden railway society's annual meeting,
Dave -
Thanks for the posting of the pictures. Great Stuff!!! Do you know if
they got smart and put a superheater in that new Ruby? I like that Shay,
In a message dated 01-03-17 19:24:12 EST, you write:
are there any thoughts on the dremel drill-press adapter? is it worth
the investment? or should one just save pennies up for a 1/4-inch,
full-scale drill press?
It is not very well designed and has limited use. Save your pennies and buy
In a message dated 01-03-17 09:45:45 EST, you write:
Having difficulty reinstalling the Ruby boiler on the smokebox saddle.
Been there, done that!! there is no easy way to put those little #%$*$
screws back in. First I made some small wrenches using metric allen head
screws. Then I bought
QUESTION I: To do this, I have to take the boiler off the frame so I
can get to the saddle. I've removed the mounting screw at the rear of
the boiler and the four screws holding the frame to the saddle, undone
the unions for the gas and steam supply lines coming off the back head,
taken
In a message dated 01-03-15 07:37:52 EST, you write:
How does one bend Stainless (or any other type) tubing without crimping
it?
I purchased some 1/8 od stainless from a local supplier (Portland OR)
that I bent,cold, around a 1/2" dowel pin using a bender that I fabricated.
I made
Alternatively, I also know of one Marine Steam engine builder
again in UK ,who stopped using $45,000 worth of his lost wax casting
moulds, and bought two 5 axis CNC machines.
Do you have any idea how much those 5 axis CNC mills cost?? Mega bucks!!
You could probably buy several
Oh didn't I tell you. It will be a scale model of Willamette c/n 21
which is on
display in Dunsmuir Ca. You gear heads will love it.
Clark-
I am green with envy of your machine tools. I propose to get at least a
mill and a suitable lathe after my trip this year. As for the
I'm working on building one, for Aluminum Bronze(90% aluminum 10%
copper).
Terry-
How do you think a similar injector would work for wax patterns? Just
trying to think of a better way to inject wax in RTV molds. The two
different style pumps I have used leave something to be
In a message dated 01-03-13 01:10:23 EST, you write:
Well, at least of the Shay.
Thanks for posting those pictures. It is too bad they did not run so we
could have a performance report.
Salty
(no-body asks what CCBW is - I am disappointed)
Okay so I'll ask even already.
Well now that I am retired and my wife is still working I have taken on
most of the kitchen duties and grocery shopping. So I am now the Chief Cook
and Bottle Washer. I guess it is sort of a weak
I would like to add a couple of comments in regards to a pattern pool
and powdered metal wheels. I think would be a great idea to have a pattern
pool for driver wheels. I really like Trents idea of powedered metal wheels.
If I am understanding his train of thought that his intention is
In a message dated 01-03-09 17:50:53 EST, you write:
Am I the only one who got a bunch of Monday's email messages delivered
again
today?
No your not alone. I got several days worth. I thought it was my
computer.
Salty
In a message dated 01-03-10 08:10:31 EST, you write:
Anyway, on a serious note, I have just had some info through from a
foundry here in the UK.
They have a 3D wax printer and can therefore make wax models for investment
casting direct from the CAD files (STL preferred).
Castings can be
In a message dated 01-03-10 17:03:58 EST, you write:
he suggested that I ask the group about wheels that were powdered metal
(PM). WOW! Why didn't I think of that?
What a great idea!! I now ask myself the same question. I have in the
past tested parts that were manufactured in this
In a message dated 01-03-10 18:37:51 EST, you write:
I sure am glad that we that own Rubys do not have to put in
axle pumps.
We don't?
In a message dated 01-03-07 19:03:08 EST, you write:
I hope that some of listees here can make it to one of the meets.
Joe
I hope to be in the area for the fall meet.
Sal;ty CCBW
In a message dated 01-03-07 09:49:38 EST, you write:
So based upon your offer of the donation of your pattern, I propose
that we create the Garden Gauge or Small Scale Pattern Pool. Comments?
Nominations for first custodian?
Harry and list members.
I would be more than casually
In a message dated 01-03-07 10:23:08 EST, you write:
Someone sober, dependable, organized.
Well I guess that lets me out !! :-)
Salty
In a message dated 01-03-06 02:49:59 EST, you write:
He then makes a mould in investment plaster (is that the right word?),
That is the right word. The process is called lost wax casting and the
wax model is surrounded by "investing it" This is done with a special
formulated
In a message dated 01-03-06 10:13:24 EST, you write:
Where can one learn more about this process, including the details on
how-to-do-it-yourself?
I am currently enrolled in a class in Metalsmithing and Jewelry making
at a local community college. The college has most of the equipment
In a message dated 01-03-06 10:32:58 EST, you write:
"Casting small Metal and Rubber parts".
Oh yea!!! I forgot that one, I also have a copy of that as well as one on
making RTV silicon molds to cast wax parts to cast metal parts.. Another
source is TAP Plastics for RTV mold making supplies.
In a message dated 01-03-06 11:27:59 EST, you write:
So, does this sound "do-able"?
Royce -
It is do-able and I would be definitely be interested in a wheel pattern
or what ever you are willing to part with. I plan on getting into casting in
the future and would like to collect as
In a message dated 01-03-06 12:17:23 EST, you write:
Might try the Unit Steam Engine. It is designed to be used as a single or
stacked together for multi-cylinder engines. It goes for about 36 USD.
Available from http://www.papernsteam.co.uk/use.shtml
In a message dated 01-03-06 13:43:42 EST, you write:
Salty CCBW
Since I am retired and my wife is still gainfully employed I have taken over
the kitchen duties - CCBW (chief cook and bottle washer).
Salty
In a message dated 01-03-06 17:41:14 EST, you write:
The great thing about Sopcak's book is that he shows you how to make
all
of the equipment you will need, including a burnout oven.
Would you please post more information about this book if possible?
Thanks,
What more is there to
In a message dated 01-03-06 20:35:01 EST, you write:
Full title, authors full name, ISBN number would help.
Thanks
bill
I think that got covered. If not here it is again. Handbook of Lost Wax or
Investment Casting by James E. Sopcak, ISBN # 0-935182-28-4. Another source
is Grobet.com
In a message dated 01-03-05 17:16:13 EST, you write:
Suppose they might be working on a Shay?
If that drawing is it, then it's going to be a pretty little thing.
I have heard through the grapevine that they have a two cylinder, two
truck Shay locomotive in the works. I do not have
In a message dated 01-03-02 16:40:52 EST, you write:
just fyi, there were technical problems at the steamup.com web provider --
which includes a variety of sites of suppliers -- until around 6 California
time last nite.
Glad to hear that. I thought I might have posted something I shouldn't
In a message dated 01-03-02 20:49:24 EST, you write:
Here is a great link of a Lumber train very close to the Ruby.
Link?What Link??? I dont see no Link!!!
What is up with the Steam in the Garden web site. It will not let me
access anything. I get the message FORBIDDEN you do not have access-?
Salty
In a message dated 01-03-01 19:26:09 EST, you write:
If you weren't aware of the pilot kit, either you haven't
been paying attention or I haven't been in your face enough with it.
(That's
how Dave likes it) It's been out about eight months, in any case, and
is an
exceptionally
In a message dated 01-02-27 23:55:14 EST, you write:
I don't have the funding, or the time, but I'm suprised no one has done
this yet. It seems like a natural conversion. :)
As one of my mentors once told me, " whatever you do to it it is still a
Ruby" I think it would be easier to
In a message dated 01-02-28 11:28:23 EST, you write:
What happened to global warming?
Jerry
It is up here in Oregon, The past three days have been sunny and near
60. I have even seen some flowers in bloom. Is this still February???
Salty
In a message dated 01-02-28 16:08:29 EST, you write:
SR24 is I think gas-fired so draft from the exhaust is not needed,
Right you are it is butane fired. And speaking of steam. Looking at the ads
in the new GR St.Aubin Station has listed under live steam an Excelsior
0-4-2, what is it???
the cost of making a rubber mold to shoot the waxes.
I made five rubber molds for the parts to build a oscillating engine
found in K.N. Harris book on stationary steam engines. The total cost for
the rubber (silicon two part mix) and the wax was less than $50.00. Making a
quality
In a message dated 01-02-27 16:35:56 EST, you write:
I have all the equipment and knowledge and no
place to set it up!
Well Bob maybe you should move up to Portland and we can set all that
equipment up in my shop. Another up side is that we do not have any of that
white fluffy stuff
In a message dated 01-02-26 13:21:18 EST, you write:
Jim C.
Cumbres Toltec Scenic RR track out of Chama, NM.
In my year long journey I plan on going there, right after I leave your
place and visit Vance. Sonni H. said he might get me a ride in the cab of
one of thier engines. (they
So are the Mark Wood wheels sand cast or investmemt cast? It seems to me
that there surely is some foundry here in the good old USA that would be
willing to cast wheels for us.
I am currently enrolled in a local community college course on jewelry
making and metal smithing. This
In a message dated 01-02-26 19:05:59 EST, you write:
Better weather is around the corner!
Well Joe it is here in Oregon - Sunny skys and moderate temperatures
Salty (wondering if I forgot and moved to southern CA)
In a message dated 01-02-24 19:49:59 EST, you write:
Incidentyally, it is great for giving that final polish to slide valve
surfaces--good stuff.
Also works good for removing coffee stains from dentures and polishing
jewelry just remember to rinse well!!!
Salty
In a message dated 01-02-23 13:09:46 EST, you write:
At the risk of repating myself too often, Rich Chiodo showed me a
wonderful
trick I have used with great success. He suggested getting the softest
artist's
pencil you can find and just scribbling all over your smokebox. The effect
of
In a message dated 01-02-23 13:37:58 EST, you write:
In Portland I would believe there are shops that
do gun restoration work and they will have access to the Brownells'
catalog and may even have some in their shop.
I did my homework and called at least 10 gun shops and none had any of
In a message dated 01-02-21 10:06:26 EST, you write:
I am new to the list and to Live Steam.
Bio : Ferdinand Mels - small town Warsaw Ontario. Canada.
Well!! Welcome to the list and the world of small scale live steam. Since I
got into live steam my sparkies (electric) locomotives sit
In a message dated 01-02-21 14:50:40 EST, you write:
My name is , Roger Arndt, I live in Des Moines, Iowa, right now the land
of
cold and snow, not a good place for out door rail roading!
Welcome to the list Roger. There are a lot of Ruby owners on this list.
There is a fantastic
Well Susan I am very impressed. Does that Myford have a power cross
feed? The locomotive drawing I assume is what you are building or planing to
build. That looks like a great project. How about a picture of Susan?
Salty CCBW
This past weekend. here in Portland OR, we had a Great American Train
Show. Our Rose City Garden Railway Society set up a large display (25' x80')
with over 500 feet of track including yards and sidings. The display had a
ten to twelve foot high mountain with a logging operation on one
In a message dated 01-02-14 10:50:56 EST, you write:
Just to set the record straight, I went and dug through my old issues and
found Larry Bangham article. Lots of us have seen this great creation run
and know Larry. The water pump article is SitG #36. He modified a RC servo
motor,
For you who are going to attend the Garden Railway Convention in Seattle
this coming summer take an extra day and go to this place. Check the web
site.
http://www.mrsr.com/index.html
Put this on your list of things that you must see. Lots of operational
steam locomotives.
Salty
Unfortunately there has been no work done on Portland's Forestry Center
Shay . I was up there about a year ago to take some pictures and it is
rusting away.. I believe it would take a massive effort to restore it to
operating condition.
Salty CCBW
In a message dated 01-02-08 09:46:50 EST, you write:
Now you
can say 'but the boiler space is filled with steam?' When the vessel cools
the steam condenses to water, and having no access to additional gas
(outside air) to fill the volume the steam once filled, thus creates a
vacuum.
For those of you who live on the west coast or will be visiting this
summer for the garden railways convention. There are several Shays on
display in the northwest a couple even in operation. Right here in the Rose
City (Portland OR) at the World Forestry Center there is one on
In a message dated 01-02-07 13:49:39 EST, you write:
I'll use single malt Scotch
I am with you Walt!!! that gin has all the flavor of eating a pine
tree. Now a good Scotch, that is something else. I wonder if one could
fire a locomotive with that stuff. Gin not Scotch - wouldn't
In a message dated 01-02-06 11:00:23 EST, you write:
so have the means to go and space to take someone else interested.
Salty very interested, can I reserve a seat.
Salty CCBW
In a message dated 01-02-05 10:05:01 EST, you write:
I've seen a lot of other steam oils at meets which I can't identify
Ok, time for me to jump in here. While at DH01, which many of you
attended, there was supplied steam oil. I noticed that there were a number
of bottles of the
In a message dated 01-01-27 20:52:02 EST, you write:
Seems that I remember Kevin O'Connor using a dead leg on a locomotive but
can't recall the details.
Kevin used one on his Ruby, he showed it to me at DH01 and if I recall
correctly it came from a Frank S (?). A very clean
Here is a little trick that I used to simulate a coal load. I must
attribute part of it to Vance Bass.
In my haste to complete my Ruby bash before DH01 I cut a block of foam
rubber to just fit inside my tender. I covered the top of the block with
bath tub sealer (clear) then pressed
We can live with it Don!! welcome to the list of Characters, and there
are some real ones here
Salty CCBW
In a message dated 01-01-26 11:31:12 EST, you write:
Several times in the past few months these characters have appeared in
messages. To all you computer experts what the h--- are they??
Salty
In a message dated 01-01-26 13:12:06 EST, you write:
I note that some Aster S.S. balls for check valves etc can be picked up
with a magnet--are they really S.S--will they corrode?
There are varying compositions to stainless steel some of which are
magnetic. As for the balls on a Aster
Dave-
It was not the brackets it was "nbsp" between them that I was wondering
about?
I guess it really doesn't matter but I was just really curious!!
Salty
the characters appeared in a posting by Don P. on 1/26 looking for a tender
for his Ruby. You are right Dave, I have more information than I need, but
now I know.
Did you ever figure out who those old characters were that were trying to
pass themselves off as you and I at DH01?
Salty
(Jokingly said)
If you didn't live down in that swampy area maybe you would not have
trouble with rust on your Aster parts!! On the brighter side at least when
you get rain it is warm, not like this cold s--t that we get here in Oregon.
:-) You can always spot an Oregonian - they
Thanks to Tony, Clark, and all for the quick answer. I am familiar with
drill rod, and its properties however have never heard of it being called
"silver steel". I don't think that my little craftsman lathe will handle it
unless I make a tool post grinder and machine it that way.
In K.N. Hassis' book Model Stationary Marine Steam Engines he calls
out for the material to be used in manufacture of crankshafts and trunion
pins on steam engines to be of "silver steel". Does anyone know what this
is? Can one assume that he is refering to stainless steel? It seems
In a message dated 01-01-21 10:07:26 EST, you write:
There are no hotels/motels within walking distance of PLS.
Phil -
I am going to be wandering around the country aboout that time, Is there
a place to park a 27' fifth wheel trailer? I would be interested in seeing
this place and
In a message dated 01-01-19 01:08:47 EST, you write:
Any more great ideas floating around out there about easier rivet
punching?
You should have talked to me as I have also built a rivet punch. I had it
at DH and showed it to a number of people. Essentially it is two
rectangular brass
In a message dated 01-01-18 17:07:51 EST, you write:
But I still wish there was a major steamup in the Northeast!
Well Chuck I suppose you will just have to start one!!
Salty
First, I am not an expert by any sense of the word. These are some of
my observations made while kit-bashing my Ruby. I have superheated my Ruby
conversion (Rosey) with a single straight piece of stainless steel tubing
through the flue. I tried a four turn coil but had a lot of
In a message dated 01-01-16 21:59:44 EST, you write:
They were going around to the various groupings of steamers advertising
Bud Light for $1.50.
Damn!! and I really like Bud Light!
Salty
In a message dated 01-01-17 00:58:08 EST, you write:
Soni's rolling stock is just LGB stuff that's been expertly weathered!
He gave a presentation at DH, (I don't remember the day as they all seemed to
run together) explained and demonstrated how he weathered those cars. Great
presentation.
In a message dated 01-01-17 16:11:33 EST, you write:
Trying to get rid of gas, (power a headlight?)
Geoff-
We older gents should really stick to the mild stuff like oatmeal, grits
and toast. Our stomachs are no longer equipped to take the abuse of Cajun
cooking. Thank God for malox
Chuck-
What you will miss will be about three days of steaming and all the hard
work the great people did in setting up the track!! As for me, (this was my
first time) I got there on wed. night around midnight and stayed through
sunday. I was pretty burned out at the end, but enjoyed
In a message dated 01-01-15 22:33:25 EST, you write:
I know
for a fact that there is at least some oil at the reservoir at the end
of a long run, but I'm not quite sure if it's enough. Some is better
than none though, right? What about the rest of you? Do you replace the
condensate with
In a message dated 01-01-16 01:27:37 EST, you write:
For those that have them, how did you make them? Wood or metal? If wood,
how did you stain/seal them? How are they attached to the brackets?
I used two layers of 1/16" maple that I cut on my table saw. On the bottom
one I drilled two
In a message dated 01-01-07 00:46:58 EST, you write:
I'll have a few separate pilots or cabs, but mostly I'm taking pilot and
cab combos,
For those who have not seen this cab and pilot kit may I say this. I
have built both the cab and pilot and they are installed on my Rosey
In a message dated 01-01-06 01:11:18 EST, you write:
(Is four feet radius right for LGB 1500? I think so.)
LGB track radius is, 47.24" (600 mm) diameter for 11000,12 pieces for a
circle; 60.24"(765 mm) for 15000, 12 pieces for a circle; and 96" for 16000,
16 pieces for a circle. They
Well friends I managed to get most everything repaired and Rosey, my
Ruby conversion, back in operating condition. I ran it twice and had two
very satisfying runs of 25 and 27 minutes on blocks. I imagine a little
tweeking of the gas valve could extend the run a little. I am Ready for
I finally got the last piece machined for my Ruby rear truck and put it
all together. Ah ready for DH!!!
Well maybe I had better fire it up on the bench to make sure every
thing is working. After all the normal preperations to steam and firing up
the boiler I noticed small
In a message dated 01-01-03 15:07:48 EST, you write:
Well fellows, here maybe an answer to those questions on, "Where can I
get custom decals for my engine or car?"
There is a gentleman in Portland, named Terry Shellenberger, who runs
the Battery Back Shop. The same guy that wrote
Here is the latest picture of my Ruby modification. I think I will call
her Rosey as I am from the Rose City (Portland OR). I still have a few
things to do before it will be ready to run, but I should have it ready for
Diamondhead. Enjoy!!
Salty
In a message dated 01-01-02 16:53:41 EST, you write:
How about a detailed description of the mods?
This was my first attempt at anything related to model engine
modifications or building. It has been a long and trying experience with a
lot of scrap produced before I finally got the
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