Re: [Standards] Smilies and XMPP

2008-10-24 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 23.10.2008 um 22:12 schrieb Peter Saint-Andre: XEP-0038 has not been touched in years. If someone wants to take over authorship of that document (or wants to author a replacement), please let me know. Well, I'd like to take over, but split it into two XEPs: One defining JISP and one

Re: [Standards] Namespace well-formed data.

2008-10-24 Thread Waqas
David Waite already wrote most of what I wanted to say. I'd just like to add a few more points. I agree with you (Dave) that servers can function without constructing a complete DOM for every stanza. But I disagree with some of what you said. On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 4:33 AM, Dave Cridland [EMAIL

[Standards] list-single option/ required?

2008-10-24 Thread Brett Zamir
In the Openfire implementation of Pubsub, the following field/ is returned in a form (for default configuration of nodes): field var=pubsub#itemreply type=list-single label=Select entity that should receive replies to itemsvalueowner/value/field All of the other field/'s encapsulate the

Re: [Standards] Smilies and XMPP

2008-10-24 Thread Marcus Lundblad
fre 2008-10-24 klockan 10:11 +0200 skrev Jonathan Schleifer: Am 23.10.2008 um 22:12 schrieb Peter Saint-Andre: XEP-0038 has not been touched in years. If someone wants to take over authorship of that document (or wants to author a replacement), please let me know. Well, I'd like to

Re: [Standards] Smilies and XMPP

2008-10-24 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Jonathan Schleifer wrote: Am 23.10.2008 um 22:12 schrieb Peter Saint-Andre: XEP-0038 has not been touched in years. If someone wants to take over authorship of that document (or wants to author a replacement), please let me know. Well, I'd like to take over, but split it into two XEPs:

Re: [Standards] Smilies and XMPP

2008-10-24 Thread Maciek Niedzielski
Peter Saint-Andre wrote: Does any client use JISP? Psi does. -- Maciek xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Standards] Smilies and XMPP

2008-10-24 Thread Kevin Smith
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Maciek Niedzielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does any client use JISP? Psi does. I'm fairly sure we're not the only ones, although I can't remember offhand who else does. /K

Re: [Standards] list-single option/ required?

2008-10-24 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Brett Zamir wrote: In the Openfire implementation of Pubsub, the following field/ is returned in a form (for default configuration of nodes): field var=pubsub#itemreply type=list-single label=Select entity that should receive replies to itemsvalueowner/value/field All of the other

Re: [Standards] connected and available resources

2008-10-24 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Fabio Forno wrote: On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 6:16 PM, Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that's a spec bug: s/available/connected/ I think so. For me it makes more sense if in points 1 3 of paragrah 11 we use connected (after that I can start filing tickets across the

[Standards] draft-saintandre-rfc3921bis-07

2008-10-24 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
I've just submitted draft-saintandre-rfc3921bis-07. You can find the spec here: http://xmpp.org/internet-drafts/draft-saintandre-rfc3921bis-07.html The SVN diff from -06 is here: http://is.gd/4ISZ See also:

Re: [Standards] connected and available resources

2008-10-24 Thread Fabio Forno
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 6:55 PM, Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, I think that the rule from rfc3920 is still in force: *** If the JID contained in the 'to' attribute is of the form [EMAIL PROTECTED]/resource and there is a connected resource that exactly matches the full

Re: [Standards] connected and available resources

2008-10-24 Thread Fabio Forno
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, but I see now that there is another possibile conflict between rfc3920 and 3921: In the following rule we say: # If the JID contains a resource identifier and there exists no connected resource that matches the

Re: [Standards] Smilies and XMPP

2008-10-24 Thread Sebastiaan Deckers
Pandion was the first one to implement JISP support. In fact back in those days I worked with Adam Theo to come up with XEP-0038. I think other clients supporting it are Coccinella, Tkabber and JAJC. Maybe more. In my experience it seems like a good format though some extensions/modifications have

Re: [Standards] Smilies and XMPP

2008-10-24 Thread Adam Nemeth
Hi, I have my outstanding XEP-proto still... https://wiki.sch.bme.hu/bin/view/_Munka/JabberCustomSmileys Haven't touched it in a while for sure, because when I implemented it (anyone can ask for my java implementation) it seemed to me it's pretty hard to implement. I still think that MSN could

Re: [Standards] Smilies and XMPP

2008-10-24 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 24.10.2008 um 23:48 schrieb Adam Nemeth: Hi, I have my outstanding XEP-proto still... https://wiki.sch.bme.hu/bin/view/_Munka/JabberCustomSmileys Haven't touched it in a while for sure, because when I implemented it (anyone can ask for my java implementation) it seemed to me it's

Re: [Standards] Smilies and XMPP

2008-10-24 Thread Marcus Lundblad
fre 2008-10-24 klockan 23:52 +0200 skrev Jonathan Schleifer: Am 24.10.2008 um 23:48 schrieb Adam Nemeth: Hi, I have my outstanding XEP-proto still... https://wiki.sch.bme.hu/bin/view/_Munka/JabberCustomSmileys Haven't touched it in a while for sure, because when I implemented it

Re: [Standards] Smilies and XMPP

2008-10-24 Thread Adam Nemeth
Oh, 231 reached draft? Well, then I need to work on compatibility with that :) On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:59 PM, Marcus Lundblad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fre 2008-10-24 klockan 23:52 +0200 skrev Jonathan Schleifer: Am 24.10.2008 um 23:48 schrieb Adam Nemeth: Hi, I have my outstanding

Re: [Standards] Smilies and XMPP

2008-10-24 Thread Marcus Lundblad
lör 2008-10-25 klockan 00:13 +0200 skrev Adam Nemeth: Oh, 231 reached draft? Well, then I need to work on compatibility with that :) Yep. It's been in draft for a while. It would be nice to have support in more clients. At the moment Jabbim has support for it in their SVN development

Re: [Standards] Smilies and XMPP

2008-10-24 Thread Marcus Lundblad
fre 2008-10-24 klockan 16:31 -0600 skrev Peter Saint-Andre: Sebastiaan Deckers wrote: IIRC the term smiley is copyrighted by some company. That's why I always use emoticon. Correct: http://www.smileyworld.com/ And don't use Buddy List®, either! Peter I heard AOL registered

[Standards] draft-saintandre-rfc3921bis-07 errata

2008-10-24 Thread Waqas
http://xmpp.org/internet-drafts/draft-saintandre-rfc3921bis-07.html#rfc.section.3.1.3 3. If the contact exists and the user already has a subscription to the user's presence... should be 3. If the contact exists and the user already has a subscription to the contact's presence... -- Waqas

Re: [Standards] well-formedness

2008-10-24 Thread Waqas
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 3:12 AM, Artur Hefczyc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am the server developer so let me add something to the discussion even if this is not a direct response to anybody post. I think I understand the point but my opinion is if people want to push more and more

[Standards] XEP 0060 :Publish multiple events within multiple nodes

2008-10-24 Thread J, Vijayananda
Hello I have a use case where I need to publish multiple events in multiple nodes in a single publish call (to avoid multiple server trips). Whereas the batch processing feature present in the XEO 0060 allows publishing multiple items within a single node, I need multiple items in different