Re: [Standards] Feedback on the proposed CoC

2022-02-04 Thread Marvin W
There are different types of XEPs as outlined in XEP-0001: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0001.html#types You are talking about Standards Track XEPs which, as the name suggests, define the standard for the protocol ("protocol extensions") and thus are typically rather technical. This is a

Re: [Standards] Feedback on the proposed CoC

2022-02-04 Thread JC Brand
On 04.02.22 11:43, Andrew Nenakhov wrote: Just agree to change a set of documents using a "community-driven governance". Protocol extensions should contain protocol extensions, and nothing but them. It is a technical documentation, but such things turn it into a political manifest. Ah yes,

Re: [Standards] Feedback on the proposed CoC

2022-02-04 Thread Andrew Nenakhov
Just agree to change a set of documents using a "community-driven governance". Protocol extensions should contain protocol extensions, and nothing but them. It is a technical documentation, but such things turn it into a political manifest. On Fri, 4 Feb 2022, 15:39 JC Brand, wrote: > > > On

Re: [Standards] Feedback on the proposed CoC

2022-02-04 Thread JC Brand
On 04.02.22 11:20, Andrew Nenakhov wrote: 1. From what I've seen, CoCs are used so silence or scare into silence people with differing political opinions (so much for tolerance). The language of this CoC, too, is too broad and allows for such misuse. 2. XEPs are not the place for such

Re: [Standards] Feedback on the proposed CoC

2022-02-04 Thread Andrew Nenakhov
1. From what I've seen, CoCs are used so silence or scare into silence people with differing political opinions (so much for tolerance). The language of this CoC, too, is too broad and allows for such misuse. 2. XEPs are not the place for such documents. If XSF wants to have a code of conduct, it

[Standards] Feedback on the proposed CoC

2022-02-04 Thread JC Brand
Dear list The community code of conduct (xep-0458) came up for an approval vote in a recent board meeting. I've gone through the document and am writing down my thoughts and feedback here. Quoted parts are directly from the document. > The examples in this document of what not to do are