Re: [Standards] Chat States as Headlines

2011-03-16 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Am 15.03.2011 um 21:53 schrieb Matthew A. Miller: I know a couple of clients where switching the chatstates message/s to type='headline' will break their support; I'm sure there are others since XEP-0082 specifies the states SHOULD NOT be

Re: [Standards] Chat States as Headlines

2011-03-16 Thread Kevin Smith
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Jonathan Schleifer js-xmpp-standa...@webkeks.org wrote: Just having looked at my offline storage, I saw that chat states are stored by the server. But of course they are, as the type is chat and thus the server has to store them. Thinking about it, wouldn't

Re: [Standards] Chat States as Headlines

2011-03-16 Thread Mark Rejhon
I second it as well. The don't store if there is no body standard is recommended too, for my submitted/upcoming resubmit of Real Time Text too. It also involves message transmissions without a body element, sent before the completed message which contains a body element. On 3/16/11, Jonathan

Re: [Standards] Chat States as Headlines

2011-03-16 Thread Kevin Smith
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Matthew Wild mwi...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 March 2011 14:23, Mark Rejhon marky...@gmail.com wrote: I second it as well.  The don't store if there is no body standard is recommended too, for my submitted/upcoming resubmit of Real Time Text too.  It also involves

Re: [Standards] Chat States as Headlines

2011-03-16 Thread Kevin Smith
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Kevin Smith ke...@kismith.co.uk wrote: At least, without giving it up thought, it seems to be. *much* thought /K

Re: [Standards] Chat States as Headlines

2011-03-16 Thread Mark Rejhon
On a related note, are there situations where messsages is type=chat but does NOT contain a body? I couldn't find a guideline relating to this, as this is also relevant to my work-in-progress. On 3/16/11, Kevin Smith ke...@kismith.co.uk wrote: On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Kevin Smith

Re: [Standards] Chat States as Headlines

2011-03-16 Thread Matthew A. Miller
On Mar 16, 2011, at 11:54 , Mark Rejhon wrote: On a related note, are there situations where messsages is type=chat but does NOT contain a body? I couldn't find a guideline relating to this, as this is also relevant to my work-in-progress. CSN (XEP-0082) is the most common case where we

Re: [Standards] Chat States as Headlines

2011-03-15 Thread Matthew Wild
On 15 March 2011 12:36, Jonathan Schleifer js-xmpp-standa...@webkeks.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hi. Just having looked at my offline storage, I saw that chat states are stored by the server. But of course they are, as the type is chat and thus the

Re: [Standards] Chat States as Headlines

2011-03-15 Thread Matthew A. Miller
On Mar 15, 2011, at 09:43 , Matthew Wild wrote: On 15 March 2011 12:36, Jonathan Schleifer js-xmpp-standa...@webkeks.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hi. Just having looked at my offline storage, I saw that chat states are stored by the server. But of