Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Message Fastening

2019-09-07 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Am Sa., 7. Sept. 2019 um 13:05 Uhr schrieb Andrew Nenakhov : > > Seems like a copy of XEP-0367 Message Attaching. It also shares the same > problem: no explanation whatsoever on how to fetch these attachments from a > Message Archive in any efficient way. Ideally, we should retrieve a message >

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Message Fastening

2019-09-07 Thread Andrew Nenakhov
Seems like a copy of XEP-0367 Message Attaching. It also shares the same problem: no explanation whatsoever on how to fetch these attachments from a Message Archive in any efficient way. Ideally, we should retrieve a message from an archive with all its attachments. We should also have some kind

Re: [Standards] SIMS issues

2019-09-07 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Am Sa., 7. Sept. 2019 um 12:54 Uhr schrieb Sergey Ilinykh : > Regarding references. Andrew Nenakhov gave me a good idea what to reference > to when want to just an audio message. > It's a text for clients which do not support SIMS. For example it can be an > HTTP link to the audio record or

Re: [Standards] SIMS issues

2019-09-07 Thread Sergey Ilinykh
Thanks for the feedback Jonas. Honestly I already thought about this after implementation and I agree with you. Removing "coding" in favor of always base64(u8) would make things way easier and still sufficient. And I'm fine with --- Regarding references. Andrew Nenakhov gave me a good idea

Re: [Standards] SIMS issues

2019-09-07 Thread Jonas Schäfer
On Mittwoch, 19. Juni 2019 19:46:02 CEST Sergey Ilinykh wrote: > Hi > > I mostly implemented SIMS in Psi and see next problems > > 1) The requirement for top-level reference element looks strange. >In Most of the case when I want to share something, I don't want to > refer to anything. >

Re: [Standards] SIMS issues

2019-09-07 Thread Jonas Schäfer
On Samstag, 7. September 2019 13:08:39 CEST Daniel Gultsch wrote: > Am Sa., 7. Sept. 2019 um 10:51 Uhr schrieb Marvin W : > > On 07.09.19 11:55, Daniel Gultsch wrote: > > > To cover the use case Sergey is talking about here (stand alone voice > > > message, stand alone image, stand alone file)

Re: [Standards] SIMS issues

2019-09-07 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Am Sa., 7. Sept. 2019 um 10:51 Uhr schrieb Marvin W : > > On 07.09.19 11:55, Daniel Gultsch wrote: > > To cover the use case Sergey is talking about here (stand alone voice > > message, stand alone image, stand alone file) without any description > > wouldn’t it make more sense to be able to put a

Re: [Standards] SIMS issues

2019-09-07 Thread Marvin W
On 07.09.19 11:55, Daniel Gultsch wrote: > To cover the use case Sergey is talking about here (stand alone voice > message, stand alone image, stand alone file) without any description > wouldn’t it make more sense to be able to put a sims as a direct child > of a message (and essentially the only

Re: [Standards] SIMS issues

2019-09-07 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Am Mi., 19. Juni 2019 um 19:07 Uhr schrieb Sergey Ilinykh : > Then yes the xep has to be updated with use-cases. Since for now only > internal elements looks usable and it's hard to imagine any > good UX for the top-level one. To cover the use case Sergey is talking about here (stand alone