Re: [Standards] Council Voting Summary 2019-10-22

2019-10-30 Thread Kim Alvefur
On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 10:52:35PM +, Kevin Smith wrote:
> On 23 Oct 2019, at 15:25, Tedd Sterr  wrote:
> > Advance to Draft: XEP-0292 (vCard4 Over XMPP) - 
> > https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0292.html
> > Dave: [pending]
> > Georg: [on-list]
> > Jonas: [on-list]
> > Kev: [on-list] (feels like we've done this already)
> > Link: [on-list] (will have to gather data about has been done and what 
> > should be done)
> 
> Sorry to do this, but ISTM there's unresolved feedback on list about
> https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0292.html#contacts-storage 's "SHOULD
> NOT include an ItemID, so that the pubsub service can assign those
> identifiers". So I'm -1 on the basis that I don't see a resolution to
> that (can easily change my vote if I've missed it).

Does this wording look sane?

https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/848/commits/21128e508c76bfe5e0f50b490d9f4849472a2955

-- 
Regards,
Kim "Zash" Alvefur


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Re: [Standards] Council Voting Summary 2019-10-22

2019-10-30 Thread Kevin Smith
On 23 Oct 2019, at 15:25, Tedd Sterr  wrote:
> Advance to Draft: XEP-0292 (vCard4 Over XMPP) - 
> https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0292.html
> Dave: [pending]
> Georg: [on-list]
> Jonas: [on-list]
> Kev: [on-list] (feels like we've done this already)
> Link: [on-list] (will have to gather data about has been done and what should 
> be done)

Sorry to do this, but ISTM there’s unresolved feedback on list about 
https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0292.html#contacts-storage ’s "SHOULD NOT 
include an ItemID, so that the pubsub service can assign those identifiers”. So 
I’m -1 on the basis that I don’t see a resolution to that (can easily change my 
vote if I’ve missed it).

/K

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Re: [Standards] Council Voting Summary 2019-10-22

2019-10-30 Thread Jonas Schäfer
On Mittwoch, 23. Oktober 2019 16:25:14 CET Tedd Sterr wrote:
> Advance to Draft: XEP-0292 (vCard4 Over XMPP) -
> https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0292.html Dave: [pending]
> Georg: [on-list]
> Jonas: [on-list]
> Kev: [on-list] (feels like we've done this already)
> Link: [on-list] (will have to gather data about has been done and what
> should be done)

+1 from me.

kind regards,
Jonas

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[Standards] Council Voting Summary 2019-10-29

2019-10-30 Thread Tedd Sterr
2019-10-02 (expired 2019-10-16)
PASSED (-0:1:+4) Proposed XMPP Extension: Message Moderation - 
https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/message-moderation.html


2019-10-09 (expired 2019-10-23)

PASSED (-0:0:+5)
Proposed XMPP Extension: Message Retraction - 
https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/message-retraction.html
Dave: +1 (willing to be told I'm wrong later)
Georg: +1 (useful addition, and we can figure out the right wire-format; assume 
actually means  and not  from 0359)
Jonas: +1 (what Georg says)
Kev: +1
Link: +1 (useful addition and properly specified)

VETOED (-5:0:+0)
PR #840 - XEP-0060: Clarify unlimited behaviour for node config - 
https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/840
Dave: -1 (having "-1" or empty seems sane for unlimited, but not novel unicode 
glyphs)
Georg: -1 (agree with Dave; also don't understand the implied semantics of that 
value)
Jonas: -1 (text needs to be clearer on the actual value for "use the server 
limit")
Kev: -1 (for untypable glyphs in particular)
Link: -1 (indicating an arbitrarily high value wouldn't be nice)


2019-10-16 (expiring 2019-10-30)

PASSED (-0:0:+5)
Last Call: XEP-0423 (XMPP Compliance Suites 2020) - 
https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0423.html
Dave: +1
Georg: +1
Jonas: +1
Kev: +1
Link: +1

Advance to Draft: XEP-0292 (vCard4 Over XMPP) - 
https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0292.html
Dave: [pending]
Georg: [on-list]
Jonas: [on-list]
Kev: [on-list] (feels like we've done this already)
Link: [on-list] (will have to gather data about what has been done and what 
should be done)

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[Standards] Council Minutes 2019-10-23

2019-10-30 Thread Tedd Sterr
http://logs.xmpp.org/council/2019-10-23?p=h#2019-10-23-79244d21a6bfc92e

Dave warns he will miss at least the beginning of the meeting, but votes +1 on 
CS-2020 for good measure.

Georg will try to chair.

1) Roll Call
Present: Jonas, Kev, Georg
Apologies: Dave
Pre-occupied: Link

2) Agenda Bashing
Georg notes PR #829 - Kev says it's Editorial because it just fixes a typo, and 
so doesn't need Council.

2.1) AOB
Georg asks whether XEP-0392 (Consistent Color Generation) should be part of 
CS-2020 - Kev thinks not, at least for the moment, though sounds reasonable for 
Future Directions.

Zash questions whether 0392 should even be on the Standards Track; Georg asks 
how an XEP gets moved from Standards to Informational - Jonas thinks the Board 
should be consulted, as they have power over XEP-0001 which doesn't include 
this transition. Georg believes the Editor is allowed to change tracks upon 
submission.

Kev suggests closing the meeting now, as he's about to disappear.

2.2) Next Meeting
2019-10-30 1600 UTC

[Note that this is now 1 hour later for those not subject to the EU DST time 
change.]

Georg reminds everyone to cast their votes.

3) End Of Stream
Thanks.

Link makes another well-timed appearance.

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