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Can this be dropped onto Struts 1.1b2 or do I need to use a nightly
Struts build?
Thanks,
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I got angry because the more I fixed the more that got broke - and wound
up just hacking it to work. I'll revisit this soon and give it a proper
fix. I was actually trying to do something else when this cropped up ...
Karr, David wrote:
Dunno. I've never tried to use relative paths myself.
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XML compliant HTML is XHTML. I don't think we need the xhtml attribute for
the tag anymore. Because xhtml works in current and older browsers, I think
the tags should produce it every time. Many people do not use the
html:html tag so it doesn't make sense to require that to use xhtml.
David
+1.
--- David Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
XML compliant HTML is XHTML. I don't think we need
the xhtml attribute for
the tag anymore. Because xhtml works in current and
older browsers, I think
the tags should produce it every time. Many people
do not use the
html:html tag so it
In my experience XHTML does not work in older browsers, specifically Netscape
4.x and I would be very concerned if an upgrade to Struts 1.1 gave me no choice
in using XHTML.
Matt.
Quoting David Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
XML compliant HTML is XHTML. I don't think we need the xhtml attribute
XML compliant HTML is XHTML
I'm not sure that this is entirely true... for example, you could write an
XML DTD for HTML that allowed for capital BODY. This would allow you to
write HTML that is XML compliant XHTML only allows body.
XHTML is merely a reformulation of HTML in XML.. they
I don't agree I'm afraid. I'm also fairly aware of the difference between CSS
and XHTML. Try this in Netscape 4.x and then in IE 4-6.
htmlbodyLine 1br/Line2/body/html
Matt.
Quoting Hajratwala, Nayan (N.) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I think this is a very common misconception. It is very likely that
Matt, have you tried br / as was suggested yesterday or the day
before? Someone made note that br/ would not work, but br / would
work. The reason is that the browser will try to interpret everything
between and as a tag. The space makes it think that the slash is an
unknown attribute
FYI ... here is the W3c section on compatibility...
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/#guidelines (see C.2)
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XML compliant HTML is XHTML. I don't think we need the
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Struts does not output any br/ tags. Use br /...
[snip]
See the XHTML spec's Compatibility
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AFAIK, the only change is the closing / added to struts input tags. All
browsers support this for reasons mentioned previously.
I guess I just don't see how this is a serious change and how existing apps
behavior would change. In my experience, over 95% of clients use Netscape
4.x+ or IE
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Subject: Re: HTML, XML, XHTML and html:html
On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, David Graham wrote:
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 08:24:08 -0600
Sections 4.5. Attribute Minimization and C.10. Boolean Attributes
suggest a couple other changes:
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/#h-4.5
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/#C_10
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Sorry that I keep using the br tag as an example because I agree it's not
a particularly good, although it does demonstrate my point. I see a problem
not with the br tag in particular as obviously Struts taglibs don't
generate them, but that to be absolutely certain that there aren't any major
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Yes, my apologies for seeming to ignore the other things you've mentioned. I
have been following the discussion but not as closely as I should have.
Hopefully I've explained my concerns a little better in my previous email.
The followups seem to suggest to that there is more information on
On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, David Graham wrote:
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 11:19:57 -0600
From: David Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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AFAIK, the only change is the closing / added to struts
Matt Read wrote:
Sorry that I keep using the br tag as an example because I agree it's not
a particularly good, although it does demonstrate my point. I see a problem
not with the br tag in particular as obviously Struts taglibs don't
generate them, but that to be absolutely certain that there
There is a suspicious bug on the CheckboxTag. Infact i can specify a value
that is rendered as attribute on the INPUT html tag, to overwrite the
default on value.
But if i specify a value, check box is not rendered correctly.
In the doStartTag method, to render the checkbox as checked, are
At 09:35 AM 10/22/2002, you wrote:
James T.,
I took a look at the DTD you specify below and it is
for the *-rules.xml files, but doesn't seem to support
validation.xml. Are you planning to add that DTD to
Commons Validator as well?
Currently Struts has two Validator DTDs:
validation_1_1.dtd
dgraham 2002/10/22 16:54:43
Modified:src/share/org/apache/struts/util AppException.java
Log:
removed all the weird blank lines, this still needs class level javadoc though.
Revision ChangesPath
1.4 +1 -1
I agree with Craig (not that it matters, a
veto is a veto =:0).
We've always supported specifications
rather than specific client technologies.
Since this is not the markup specified by
HTML 4.01, I don't see how we can make it
the default. In practice, browsers may
ignore the slash as an
good discussion, everyone ...
I've been thinking about this a little more and I'm going to backtrack a
little bit We will very likely be running into this same problem when
XHTML 2.0 comes out. XHTML 2.0 will NOT be backwards compatible with XHTML
1.1 (For more on this, see the W3C site or
I agree that there should just be the one
DTD. People should be able to list any
number of validator config files, as they
can with tiles configs.
-Ted.
10/22/2002 3:16:14 PM, James Turner
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At 09:35 AM 10/22/2002, you wrote:
James T.,
I took a look at the DTD you
Anyone? It's just looking at me funny and timing out. I think I ticked
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I think that box is down - can someone confirm? I can't ping it. Who
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There is a suspicious bug on the CheckboxTag. Infact i can
specify a value
that is rendered as attribute on the INPUT html tag, to overwrite the
default on value.
But
+1
--- Hajratwala, Nayan (N.) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
good discussion, everyone ...
I've been thinking about this a little more and I'm
going to backtrack a
little bit We will very likely be running into
this same problem when
XHTML 2.0 comes out. XHTML 2.0 will NOT be
backwards
I have to disagree. It's perfectly legitimate for a single checkbox to
have a value that's not one of on, yes or true.
That's legit HTML. Struts currently (seemingly needlessly) prevents
that usage by only having an annointed set of values, and forcing users
to use those. I think Franco is
On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, David Graham wrote:
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 13:54:14 -0600
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Subject: Re: HTML, XML, XHTML and html:html
If we're not doing xhtml in 1.1 then we'll need to
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Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 15:02:23 -0500
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Subject: Bugzilla down?
Anyone? It's just looking at me funny and timing out.
Hi,
A Dimarts 22 Octubre 2002 19:46, Martin Cooper va escriure:
I'd rather *not* make this kind of a potentially backwards
incompatible
change immediately before a release (unless you make it
conditional on the
xhtml attribute of the html:html tag being true). The
problem is
Whatever the decision, once it's made it should go into the roadmap
document just so there's a record of it
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From: Eddie Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 12:17 PM
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Subject: Re: HTML, XML, XHTML and
James Mitchell has been a long-time
contributor of good ideas as well as
patches on the developer list. He is also
generous with his help on the user list.
I believe it's time that we nominated
James as a Committer. After all, we can
always use another Evangelist.
Here's my +1
-Ted.
On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Antoni Reus wrote:
[snip]
As you could expect I would like to see this in 1.1 controlled by the xhtml
attribute!!
This result has two prerequisites:
* The developers have to agree to it (I'm personally +0, which
means I'm OK with it but *I* am not going to do the
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+1
Craig
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Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 16:32:43 -0400
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James Mitchell
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James Mitchell has been a long-time
contributor of good ideas as well as
patches on the developer list. He is also
generous with his help on the user list.
I believe it's time that we nominated
James as a Committer. After all, we can
Well I've been wrong before and I'm obviously wrong now :-). Thanks for the
links. I saw in a different part of the xhtml docs something about boolean
attributes being true and false. Who in their right mind designs a system
where boolean attributes can only take their name as the value?
James,
+1
Use the force wisely !
-Rob
Ted Husted wrote:
James Mitchell has been a long-time
contributor of good ideas as well as
patches on the developer list. He is also
generous with his help on the user list.
I believe it's time that we nominated
James as a Committer. After all, we
Erik Hatcher wrote:
Can this be dropped onto Struts 1.1b2 or do I need to use a nightly
Struts build?
There have been public methods added to some classes, but that is
about it. I don't believe this causes a problem as
it does with C++, but I could be wrong.
Also, there have been a few
+1
Not sure about Fridays, though... ;-)
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James Mitchell has been a long-time
LOL..ok
James Mitchell
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The latest version of the DTD on the web site has the corrected DTD.
James
At 03:45 PM 10/22/2002, you wrote:
I agree that there should just be the one
DTD. People should be able to list any
number of validator config files, as they
can with tiles configs.
-Ted.
10/22/2002 3:16:14 PM, James
dmkarr 2002/10/22 22:10:35
Added: contrib/struts-el/src/share/org/apache/strutsel/taglib/bean
package.html
contrib/struts-el/src/share/org/apache/strutsel/taglib/logic
package.html
Log:
package descriptions for
dmkarr 2002/10/22 22:24:57
Modified:contrib/struts-el/src/share/org/apache/strutsel/taglib/logic
package.html
Log:
Fixed tag prefix.
Revision ChangesPath
1.2 +10 -10
dmkarr 2002/10/22 22:25:07
Modified:contrib/struts-el/src/share/org/apache/strutsel/taglib/bean
package.html
Log:
Fixed tag prefix.
Revision ChangesPath
1.2 +4 -4
On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, David Graham wrote:
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 21:37:42 -0600
From: David Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: HTML, XML, XHTML and html:html
Well I've been wrong before and I'm obviously wrong now
The release candidate for Commons Validator is now available at:
http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-commons/release/commons-validator/v1.0_rc1/
The plan is to make this release the official Validator 1.0 release after a
week for people to bang on it, and an official release vote.
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