RE: string concatenation

2004-02-16 Thread Andrew Hill
: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 16 February 2004 15:46 To: Struts Developers List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: string concatenation Quoting Andrew Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > It seems like utter madness to me. > Mad! Mad! I tell you! > > Half of

Develop against released commons versions [WAS: RE: string concatenation]

2004-02-15 Thread Andrew Hill
Maybe now thats been done there should be a policy of only developing against "release" versions of commons code. +1 This seems pretty sensible to me. Id suggest the committers seriously consider this idea. -Original Message- From: Niall Pemberton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday

RE: string concatenation

2004-02-15 Thread Andrew Hill
It seems like utter madness to me. Mad! Mad! I tell you! Half of commons was split off from struts originally anyhow, and now to go and say we dont want to depend on it, lets redevelop it yet again internally... WTF? Will we then see another cycle where the internally redevloped code is agai

RE: why are form beans required for html:form?

2004-01-15 Thread Andrew Hill
u, hmmm. This could answer the case where the target property is not a String (or boolean). imho, people who dont use strings exclusively in their AFs deserve whatever is coming to them... ;-> Seriously though, I dont think I like the idea of changing the form and view population methodolo

RE: Legacy APIs - Short Term Plan

2003-11-28 Thread Andrew Hill
: Struts Developers List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Legacy APIs - Short Term Plan On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Andrew Hill wrote: > While your at it how about actually including the javadocs in the > distribution (or the source dist). > A static html version of the other struts docs that doesn

RE: Legacy APIs - Short Term Plan

2003-11-27 Thread Andrew Hill
While your at it how about actually including the javadocs in the distribution (or the source dist). A static html version of the other struts docs that doesnt require you to crank up a servlet container everytime you want to check something would also be very nice. -Original Message- From

RE: viewing a query

2003-11-12 Thread Andrew Hill
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Wrong list mate. Ask in the user list - after reading the link I pasted above. -Original Message- From: Zakaria khabot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 12 November 2002 18:17 To: Struts Developers List Subject: viewing a query H

RE: Params to redirects

2003-10-13 Thread Andrew Hill
Dunno what the committers and devs have to say about it, but I know Id find it highly useful. :-) Seem to spend half my life messing round with query parameters in urls to pass to ActionForward constructors inside an action! So whats your code do? Add getters and setters to ActionForward class? Or

RE: [struts-chain] Writing a command to process a Tiles Definition

2003-10-02 Thread Andrew Hill
Didn't your O-O programming classes explain to you the evils of the "goto" statement? :-) Of course everyone knows gotos are naughty. Thats why programming languages nowdays market them under the much friendlier sounding terms "break" and "continue". ;-> -Original Message- From: Craig R

RE: Action Chaining

2003-09-28 Thread Andrew Hill
For the other usage, where people have trouble creating a finely-grained business API, there's a new Chain package in the Commons sandbox that can help. This package makes it easy to chain together arbitrary units of work, so that you can do things like create a "move" command by chaining a "copy"

RE: Where is Struts 2 going?

2003-09-21 Thread Andrew Hill
If so then it makes for interesting future, where the HTTP request representing a HMTL Form for example, a POST method, is a XML document and the output is XML. This is the approach XForms takes. -Original Message- From: Peter A. Pilgrim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 21 Septem

RE: [OT] As the Struts world turns [was: Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 22519] - Allow multiple MessageResources files to be loaded under one key]

2003-08-29 Thread Andrew Hill
Yeh, I thought it was hilarious when I unwittingly clicked the link and got bombarded with all those windows and the silly jingle! (Mind you I am easily entertained ;->) and the guy who sits next to me thought it pretty darn funny too... -Original Message- From: Brandon Goodin [mailto

RE: Resource Bundle Prototyping

2003-08-28 Thread Andrew Hill
Stay awhile, stay forever! -Original Message- From: zhang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 12 August 2003 09:17 To: 'Struts Developers List' Subject: RE: Resource Bundle Prototyping pls remove my email from this email list -Original Message- From: Tetsuya Kitahata [mail

RE: Request/Response Utils future request

2003-07-07 Thread Andrew Hill
+1 (& crossposting to struts-dev to try and spark some discussion on implementation) Couldn't agree more George. I too have come across *numerous* situations where I wanted to override and do things a little bit differently for certain cases. And not just with Request & Response Utils but also wi

RE: Powered By Struts Logos

2003-07-06 Thread Andrew Hill
+1 -Original Message- From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 7 July 2003 11:51 To: 'Struts Developers List' Subject: RE: Powered By Struts Logos > -Original Message- > From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 11:33

RE: [OT] IDEA was "Struts/.NET (was JavaPro)"

2003-06-18 Thread Andrew Hill
] Sent: Wednesday, 18 June 2003 18:59 To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: [OT] IDEA was "Struts/.NET (was JavaPro)" Andrew Hill wrote: > 300 Is it? > I thought it was $460++ USD for a single developer??? - way more than > my budget runs to :-( Compared to something like

RE: [OT] IDEA was "Struts/.NET (was JavaPro)"

2003-06-18 Thread Andrew Hill
300 Is it? I thought it was $460++ USD for a single developer??? - way more than my budget runs to :-( -Original Message- From: Jason L. Buberel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 18 June 2003 13:05 To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: [OT] IDEA was "Struts/.NET (was JavaPro)"

ActionContext [WAS: RE: composable RequestProcessor]

2003-06-05 Thread Andrew Hill
I'd even like create a new execute(StrutsRequestContext) method in the default Action class, that simple calls the old execute(m, f, r, r) (for backwards compatibility). Im doing this in my app - though the execute signature remains the same. Most of my actions extend some abstract action classe

RE: Re: composable RequestProcessor

2003-06-05 Thread Andrew Hill
I'm not sure why you shouldn't open it up all the way. Sounds good to me. Why stop at the RP. Why not take it all the way to the action as well? A lot of people have been clamoring for some kind of method to configurably compose action functionality in a way that avoids the deadly pitfalls of 'a

RE: Re: composable RequestProcessor

2003-06-05 Thread Andrew Hill
Like targets in Ant... -Original Message- From: Kent Sølvsten Rasmussen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 4 June 2003 23:19 To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: Re: composable RequestProcessor Just a thought... Would it be possible to take the anology to Validator one step f

RE: composable RequestProcessor

2003-06-04 Thread Andrew Hill
Just had a look at the updated wiki. Is it just me lacking sleep or are the contents for the singleInterface page and the composableRequestprocessor page kindof in the wrong places? (ie the stuff for composable on the single page and vice versa) -Original Message- From: Matthias Bauer [mai

RE: [RESULTS] Release Struts RC2 with FileUpload RC1/Beta2

2003-06-04 Thread Andrew Hill
Hip hip hoooray! -Original Message- From: James Turner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 4 June 2003 11:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RESULTS] Release Struts RC2 with FileUpload RC1/Beta2 +1 James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] James Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] James Mitchell [EMAIL

RE: composable RequestProcessor

2003-06-03 Thread Andrew Hill
Yep. Having a look at the processXXX methods in the RP Id say that most arent really amenable to chaining anyhow. (One likely exception is the processPreprocess() hook, however if chaining is required for this it could perhaps be done by an implementation of its interface 'PreprocessProcessor' that

RE: composable RequestProcessor

2003-06-03 Thread Andrew Hill
This driving request processor who selects the instances of the sub request processors should be the one who keeps the members. Every sub request processor must be allowed to modify these members. Therefore the driving request processor must pass a reference to himself to each method now (like in

RE: composable RequestProcessor

2003-06-03 Thread Andrew Hill
This leads to a proliferation of classes. The standard Java way of dealing with large interfaces it to provide an Adapter class that people can subclass and override the few methods they need. I can see how your worried that we will end up with a truckload of classes - and we certainly will end

RE: composable RequestProcessor

2003-06-03 Thread Andrew Hill
Well I see little point in defining an interface that simply requires you to implement all the hooks in the RP. It doesnt seem to get us any further than where we are already (well apart from satisfying my compulsive desires for more interfaces!) You need to break it out into multiple discrete int

RE: composable RequestProcessor

2003-06-02 Thread Andrew Hill
uess, so the AS/RP dynamic duo would stay but could be implemented as filters. -Original Message- From: Jeff Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 2 June 2003 21:04 To: 'Struts Developers List' Subject: RE: composable RequestProcessor > From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMA

RE: composable RequestProcessor

2003-06-02 Thread Andrew Hill
At this point, I think the main goal is to come up with a decent name for an interface which RequestProcessor could implement How about "IRequestProcessor"? (Yeh, okay so Im of the "every interface should start with an 'I' or the writer should die!" school of thought, as well as the even mo

RE: composable RequestProcessor

2003-06-02 Thread Andrew Hill
The big question with this chaining method is how do we get them to 'play nice' with each other, where the two (or more) processors are in conflict - for example one implements code that would override what the other does such as in processLocale() - or for those methods that return an object such

RE: VOTE (enough already!): Release Struts RC2 with FileUpload Beta 2

2003-05-29 Thread Andrew Hill
I aint no committer/contributor but if I get 2 cents worth (about 1.15 US cents) its: +1 Do it! Do it now! -Original Message- From: James Turner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 29 May 2003 15:06 To: 'Struts Developers List' Subject: VOTE (enough already!): Release Struts RC2 wi

RE: [proposal]Adding queryString property to ForwardConfig

2003-03-25 Thread Andrew Hill
With all of that out of the way, I could see your idea being useful for forwarding/redirecting from one Action to another. I also tend to use forwards as a way of configuring in one place all the urls that get rendered in various anchor tags etc in the view... -Original Message- From: J

RE: [proposal]Adding queryString property to ForwardConfig

2003-03-25 Thread Andrew Hill
+1 Now thats spooky. Before I read your msg I was outside having a smoke and thinking along exactly the same lines! ActionForwards have evolved into something of a generic URL wrapper class for struts, and this change would be quite useful in this regard. The way Id envisaged it was that you coul

RE: Interesting Bug Fact

2003-03-20 Thread Andrew Hill
+1 The misconception many people have in associating struts exclusively with JSP gets rather 'irritating' at times. As you all know struts is so much more than just a bunch of tags. :-) For example the app Im working on doesnt use a single JSP, but is very much a struts based app - my view still

RE: new variation on old question

2003-02-24 Thread Andrew Hill
Well mate, for the hypothesis:ship(1.1F<=2003-02-28) Id reckon there is a probability of 0.5 with a confidence factor of +/- 50% ;-> -Original Message- From: Thomas L Roche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 25 February 2003 12:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: new variation on old q

RE: Synchronized blocks?

2003-01-28 Thread Andrew Hill
>>,although Java makes threading relatively easy... I find Java gives you more than enough thread to hang yourself with ;-> -Original Message- From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 28 January 2003 23:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Synchronized blocks? Tha

RE: Please remove me off the mailing list

2003-01-26 Thread Andrew Hill
Im sorry Dave, I cant do that. -Original Message- From: shajil Kom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 27 January 2003 01:33 To: Struts Developers List Subject: Please remove me off the mailing list - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful.

RE: xhtml javascript hiding methods

2003-01-16 Thread Andrew Hill
Im using xhtml (not strict version though) in my view and am having to put the script in comments to appease the browser... -Original Message- From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 16 January 2003 15:05 To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: xhtml javascrip

RE: Struts Coding Standard

2003-01-07 Thread Andrew Hill
Personally as a user rather than a contributor or extender (well Ive actually extended a fair bit but only to provide support for some wierd stuff my app is doing) Ive found the source to be invaluable as a form of documentation (once I straighten out all those sun-style-misaligned curly brackets s

RE: Avoid code reformating !

2002-12-22 Thread Andrew Hill
Personally I find the sun style with things just anyhow all over the place to be quite messy & completely unreadable. When I read source for a struts class I usually have to spend 10 minutes moving the braces around so I can figure out what is going on... Still one mans meat is anothers poison, a

RE: Why are people are up on Struts

2002-12-14 Thread Andrew Hill
would you stick around if the first response you get when approaching a new community is titled "idiot.html"? http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idiot.html Rofl. I like it. ;-> -Original Message- From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 00:08 To: St

RE: Hello, all.

2002-12-09 Thread Andrew Hill
Yep. Same decision I made. Im glad I went with struts. :-) -Original Message- From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 10:34 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Hello, all. >From: "Andrew Hill" <[EMAIL PROTE

RE: Hello, all.

2002-12-09 Thread Andrew Hill
Barracuda is an impressive framework. It also has quite a powerful event model which struts lacks. The rendering seems tied to XMLC however. Ive not used Barracuda myself so dont know how hard it would be to make it play with a different view technology. That said, using a DOM approach for renderin

RE: Struts without taglib ?

2002-11-26 Thread Andrew Hill
btw: This sort of question should be posted in the users list not the dev list. -Original Message- From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 18:37 To: Struts Developers List Subject: RE: Struts without taglib ? Yes -Original Message- From

RE: Struts without taglib ?

2002-11-26 Thread Andrew Hill
Yes -Original Message- From: Rajendra Yadav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 18:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Struts without taglib ? Hi All, Is it possible to use Struts without the taglib ? Thanks, - Raj - Do you Yah

RE: Velocity vs. JSP: objective tests?

2002-11-24 Thread Andrew Hill
A DOM based rendering methodology might be more appropriate for this sort of thing. For example the home baked view technology Im using with my struts app is based around the idea of giving each page a 'layout' - this is just an xhtml file - or several actually since I tend have have some shared t

RE: Remove or unsubscribe me

2002-11-18 Thread Andrew Hill
Im sorry Dave. I cant do that. -Original Message- From: siraj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 22:01 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Remove or unsubscribe me unsubscribe me -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail