RE: [OT] JSP or Velocity

2004-02-28 Thread Andrew Hill
their proportional fonts, and yucky pastel colours. Garrrgh! -Original Message- From: David Friedman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 28 February 2004 06:07 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [OT] JSP or Velocity Navjot, Though I haven't tried Velocity, I like the idea that my stub

RE: [OT] JSP or Velocity

2004-02-28 Thread Navjot Singh
: Saturday, February 28, 2004 2:15 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [OT] JSP or Velocity Hehe, I love this programmers vs designer concept. Every place Ive worked its always the same poor sod (ie: yours truly) who has to do both roles. ...and why is it Im always the only one who sees

[OT] JSP or Velocity

2004-02-27 Thread A.White
Howdy I am starting to develop an application using struts and have been looking round the rest of the Jakarta project and came across the Velocity project. I was interested to see which which people recommended for a relative newbie Cheers Andrew

Re: [OT] JSP or Velocity

2004-02-27 Thread John Ferguson Smart
For my part, I tried Velocity with Struts and found it quite cool, but had trouble with some more tricky needs (dynamic includes) which where easier to do with Tiles and Taglibs (JSP 2.0-style taglibs, that is...) Just my 2 cents... A.White wrote: Howdy I am starting to develop an

RE: [OT] JSP or Velocity

2004-02-27 Thread Andrew Hill
the one with the most mindshare despite its flaws, so you wont go wrong going with it for your project even if it can be a pain to work with sometimes! -Original Message- From: A.White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 27 February 2004 20:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [OT] JSP

RE: [OT] JSP or Velocity

2004-02-27 Thread McCormack, Chris
: [OT] JSP or Velocity Howdy I am starting to develop an application using struts and have been looking round the rest of the Jakarta project and came across the Velocity project. I was interested to see which which people recommended for a relative newbie Cheers Andrew

Re: [OT] JSP or Velocity

2004-02-27 Thread Larry Meadors
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/27/04 5:44 AM I am starting to develop an application using struts and have been looking round the rest of the Jakarta project and came across the Velocity project. I was interested to see which which people recommended for a relative newbie After looking at

RE: [OT] JSP or Velocity

2004-02-27 Thread Andrew Hill
- From: Larry Meadors [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 27 February 2004 21:26 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] JSP or Velocity [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/27/04 5:44 AM I am starting to develop an application using struts and have been looking round the rest of the Jakarta project

RE: [OT] JSP or Velocity

2004-02-27 Thread A.White
huge karma and gratitude in their next life Andrew -Original Message- From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 February 2004 13:35 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [OT] JSP or Velocity Yes, Velocity has been around for quite awhile now, and it was intended

Re: [OT] JSP or Velocity

2004-02-27 Thread Markus
Hi, I've used JSTL and velocity. Velocity is fast and a smart way to generate dynamic pages but it is not as comfortable as JSTL is. You have to implement many things which exist in JSTL and other taglibs already. If you use the macro stuff it will be easier but still a lot work to do. Kind

Re: [OT] JSP or Velocity

2004-02-27 Thread John Ferguson Smart
To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [OT] JSP or Velocity Yes, Velocity has been around for quite awhile now, and it was intended to address many of the problems inherent in (older versions of) JSP. Nowdays JSP (especially JSP2) coding techniques and technologies have rather caught up

RE: [OT] JSP or Velocity

2004-02-27 Thread Kris Schneider
Starting points: http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/jstl/reference/docs/index.html http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/jstl/reference/techart/index.html Quoting A.White [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks for your answers, they are all greatly appreciated I think I'll be using JSP and JTSL then. However

[OT] JSP or Velocity

2004-02-27 Thread Leonardo Francalanci
take a look at freemarker http://www.freemarker.org/index.html It is very similar to Velocity, but you can use JSP tags in freemarker templates. (You can use JSP custom tag libraries in templates. from http://freemarker.org/fmVsVel.html)

RE: [OT] JSP or Velocity

2004-02-27 Thread Navjot Singh
] JSP or Velocity [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/27/04 5:44 AM I am starting to develop an application using struts and have been looking round the rest of the Jakarta project and came across the Velocity project. I was interested to see which which people recommended for a relative newbie After

RE: [OT] JSP or Velocity

2004-02-27 Thread rick
To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [OT] JSP or Velocity Yes, Velocity has been around for quite awhile now, and it was intended to address many of the problems inherent in (older versions of) JSP. Nowdays JSP (especially JSP2) coding techniques and technologies have rather caught up

RE: [OT] JSP or Velocity

2004-02-27 Thread Hookom, Jacob
Go to java.sun.com and search for JSTL pdf -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: None To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [OT] JSP or Velocity JSTL in Action http://www.manning.com/bayern/ Rick DeBay On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 13:45 , A.White

Re: [OT] JSP or Velocity

2004-02-27 Thread Martin Cooper
There is one *huge* gripe I have about JSP that many people probably don't care about. But if you do care about it, it can be pretty much of a showstopper, and drive you to use Velocity instead. The problem is that JSP *must* be invoked in a servlet request / response environment. Why is this a

RE: [OT] JSP or Velocity

2004-02-27 Thread David Friedman
-Original Message- From: Navjot Singh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 9:31 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [OT] JSP or Velocity Basically, i use velocity only for email templates and sometimes to generate other kind of templates from one template where