Re: JSTL and Struts-el

2003-08-14 Thread Mark Lowe
and Struts-el instead of taglibs and Struts tags...Well, last time I posted on this list I asked Craig if the time was mature for JSTL and I've been suggested that it would be better to wait as JSTL were in their beta-release. Two questions: 1) Is now the time to use JSTL? Could we continue to use

Re: JSTL and Struts-el

2003-08-14 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Sun, 10 Aug 2003, Marco Tedone wrote: Where's the java code here? How could it be done with less effort by means of JSTL and Struts-el? One aspect that hasn't been touched on in this thread (completely aside from readability, which tends to be a subjective judgement call) is the fact

Re: JSTL and Struts-el

2003-08-14 Thread Mark Lowe
On Sunday, August 10, 2003, at 08:05 PM, Marco Tedone wrote: Well, I am completely new to the subject, but when I'll put it in action (not to use someone else's words here :)) and if I'll decide that this is better than my current architecture, I'll write to you and say...Hey Mark, JSTL and Struts-el

Re: JSTL and Struts-el

2003-08-14 Thread Marco Tedone
Well, as I said...I don't know anything about it. But honestly I think that a good job could be done by taglibs and struts tags as well. One of my developers told me: using JSTL and Struts-el will avoid you from mungling JSPs with Java code. Well I replied...Where is the java code in my JSPs

Re: JSTL and Struts-el

2003-08-14 Thread Reinhard
Mark Lowe wrote: Has this easier to use premiss been run past any folks with good markup skills, but aren't programmers as such? I believe, that tags aren't targeted to programmers but to designers, which where supposed to have less programmer skills. This may be true only for bigger

Re: JSTL and Struts-el

2003-08-14 Thread David Graham
--- Marco Tedone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, it's quite a long time that I am not monitoring the struts-user list any more...Last time was about three months ago. One of my project's new entry asked me why don't we use JSTL and Struts-el instead of taglibs and Struts tags

Re: JSTL and Struts-el

2003-08-14 Thread Mark Lowe
All this came up a few weeks ago, so I made a couple of JSP's and asked some folks who're good HTML'ist's to tell me what they thought was going on in the pages. I didn't ask any experts but some folks who use this stuff. Oh .. and guess what I found? The out of the 5 people I've asked so far

Re: JSTL and Struts-el

2003-08-14 Thread Marco Tedone
Well, I am completely new to the subject, but when I'll put it in action (not to use someone else's words here :)) and if I'll decide that this is better than my current architecture, I'll write to you and say...Hey Mark, JSTL and Struts-el it's easier than Struts taglibs!!! Cheerse, Marco

Re: JSTL and Struts-el

2003-08-14 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Sun, 10 Aug 2003, Marco Tedone wrote: Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 22:36:01 +0100 From: Marco Tedone [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: JSTL and Struts-el That's sounds great Craig, thanks. I can

Re: JSTL and Struts-el

2003-08-14 Thread Marco Tedone
that I was still in 1.1-rc1 :)) Marco - Original Message - From: Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 10:20 PM Subject: Re: JSTL and Struts-el On Sun, 10 Aug 2003, Marco Tedone wrote: Where's the java

JSTL and Struts-el

2003-08-12 Thread Marco Tedone
Hi everyone, it's quite a long time that I am not monitoring the struts-user list any more...Last time was about three months ago. One of my project's new entry asked me why don't we use JSTL and Struts-el instead of taglibs and Struts tags...Well, last time I posted on this list I asked Craig

Re: JSTL and Struts-el

2003-08-10 Thread Marco Tedone
don't we use JSTL and Struts-el instead of taglibs and Struts tags...Well, last time I posted on this list I asked Craig if the time was mature for JSTL and I've been suggested that it would be better to wait as JSTL were in their beta-release. Two questions: 1) Is now the time

Re: JSTL and Struts-el

2003-08-10 Thread Marco Tedone
it? One risks to get bored :)) Good night, Marco - Original Message - From: Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 11:23 PM Subject: Re: JSTL and Struts-el On Sun, 10 Aug 2003, Marco Tedone wrote: Date: Sun, 10

Re: JSTL and Struts-el

2003-08-10 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Sun, 10 Aug 2003, Marco Tedone wrote: Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 23:33:14 +0100 From: Marco Tedone [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: JSTL and Struts-el Are you telling me that ${customer.name