Re: [sugar] frame activation

2008-06-10 Thread Gary C Martin
On 10 Jun 2008, at 11:15, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > do we have any feedback regarding frame activation and the new control > panel option? > > Is it ok to ship with hot corners on by default and let the users > change it if they wish? Have settled for about 500ms for the corners. I found warm edges t

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] Journal able to use "open with" for activity bundles

2008-06-10 Thread Eben Eliason
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 7:20 PM, Jameson Chema Quinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 4:28 PM, Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Jameson Chema Quinn >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Sorry, I am stuck in windows land today, so

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] Journal able to use "open with" for activity bundles

2008-06-10 Thread Jameson "Chema" Quinn
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 4:28 PM, Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Jameson Chema Quinn > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sorry, I am stuck in windows land today, so I cannot confirm anything. I > > will respond based on how I recall things, and I'm pretty su

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] Journal able to use "open with" for activity bundles

2008-06-10 Thread Eben Eliason
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Jameson Chema Quinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry, I am stuck in windows land today, so I cannot confirm anything. I > will respond based on how I recall things, and I'm pretty sure, but cannot > vouch 100% for what I will say here. > > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] Journal able to use "open with" for activity bundles

2008-06-10 Thread Jameson "Chema" Quinn
Sorry, I am stuck in windows land today, so I cannot confirm anything. I will respond based on how I recall things, and I'm pretty sure, but cannot vouch 100% for what I will say here. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Jame

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] Journal able to use "open with" for activity bundles

2008-06-10 Thread Eben Eliason
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Jameson Chema Quinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> Actually, I disagree with adding "Start" separately to the secondary >> palette as this will appear redundant beneath the already ex

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] Bundlebuilder use manifest, fix_manifest function

2008-06-10 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 7:00 PM, Jameson Chema Quinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here is the new version of the patch. Tell me if there are any problems > applying it cleanly, and I will fix. [EMAIL PROTECTED] sugar-toolkit]$ patch -p1 http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] Journal able to use "open with" for activity bundles

2008-06-10 Thread Jameson "Chema" Quinn
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually, I disagree with adding "Start" separately to the secondary > palette as this will appear redundant beneath the already existing > "Start" label in the primary palette. The better solution (and I > think, the expe

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] Journal able to use "open with" for activity bundles

2008-06-10 Thread Eben Eliason
Actually, I disagree with adding "Start" separately to the secondary palette as this will appear redundant beneath the already existing "Start" label in the primary palette. The better solution (and I think, the expected behavior) is to make the primary palette clickable when the palette is anchor

[sugar] Fwd: [poppler] [Announce] PyPoppler 0.8.1

2008-06-10 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
I think someone was looking for this some months ago... Marco -- Forwarded message -- From: Gian Mario Tagliaretti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:18 PM Subject: [poppler] [Announce] PyPoppler 0.8.1 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], PyGtk Mail-List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dis

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] Journal able to use "open with" for activity bundles

2008-06-10 Thread Jameson "Chema" Quinn
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Jameson Chema Quinn > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This change fixes a bug: journal is unable to do anything but "start" a > > bundle, even if you have an activity (Develop) which can han

Re: [sugar] frame activation

2008-06-10 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 8:39 AM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can we set up an actually experiment with some children? Uruguay, > Paraguay, and Peru all agreed to help. This seems like a obvious place > to start. > > -walter Thank you, Walter. You are the first I have seen asking suc

[sugar] [PATCH] to Browse activity; trac #6250

2008-06-10 Thread Erik Garrison
The following patch resolves trac #6250 (and #6999). I have tested and pushed the patch into the web-activity git repo. >From 9e3c4d01dc2b368ef0636cce598dd655446fb883 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:29:17 -0400 Subject: [PATCH] To resolv

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] Journal able to use "open with" for activity bundles

2008-06-10 Thread Eben Eliason
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Jameson Chema Quinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This change fixes a bug: journal is unable to do anything but "start" a > bundle, even if you have an activity (Develop) which can handle the activity > bundle mime type. Right, this merits the possible addition of a

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] Journal able to use "open with" for activity bundles

2008-06-10 Thread Jameson "Chema" Quinn
This change fixes a bug: journal is unable to do anything but "start" a bundle, even if you have an activity (Develop) which can handle the activity bundle mime type. The immediate question is: should "start" be available only by pressing the button, or should it also be an option in the pulldown?

Re: [sugar] Avoid duplicates in the bundle registry

2008-06-10 Thread Jameson "Chema" Quinn
Let me try to sketch out the plan understand and interpret it from http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Mstone/Commentaries/Bundles_1. (episode 2 was more about how to handle the files/bundles or objects/actions distinction, which is farther off). 1. in the future, object ID will just be a hash of the n

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] Adapt object chooser to new designs. Some refactoring was needed.

2008-06-10 Thread Simon Schampijer
Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > Hi, > > this patch adapts the object chooser to the mockups linked below. It > was needed to refactor the ListView and CollapsedEntry classes in > order to separate the common functionality between the journal list > view and the one in the object chooser. > > Thanks, > > T

Re: [sugar] wiki navigation

2008-06-10 Thread Eben Eliason
A link was explicitly not provided here because the mockups shown presently are a somewhat pared-down version for short-term implementation for the upcoming release, and without description. I have a more extensive series of designs which I want to make public in the near future for the community

Re: [sugar] frame activation

2008-06-10 Thread Walter Bender
What we need to do is come up with a clear definition of the test we want to preform. We can figure out how t get the right bits in place after that. The variables seem to be new user vs experienced user to test discoverability and the various time-constants for the default delay: perhaps 0, 1/3s,

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] Journal able to use "open with" for activity bundles

2008-06-10 Thread Eben Eliason
I'm confused, actually. We already have "Start" as the first option in the palette for "raw" activities, and as the action listed on the button in the detail view. What is the intent for the change being discussed here? - Eben On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 5:57 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w

Re: [sugar] frame activation

2008-06-10 Thread Eben Eliason
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can we set up an actually experiment with some children? Uruguay, > Paraguay, and Peru all agreed to help. This seems like a obvious place > to start. Yes, that would be helpful as well. In order to make that feasible, w

Re: [sugar] frame activation

2008-06-10 Thread Walter Bender
Can we set up an actually experiment with some children? Uruguay, Paraguay, and Peru all agreed to help. This seems like a obvious place to start. -walter On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've played with it a lot. I think that a 1/3 second delay goes a

Re: [sugar] frame activation

2008-06-10 Thread Eben Eliason
I've played with it a lot. I think that a 1/3 second delay goes a long way to preventing accidental activation, but likely isn't long enough to prevent discovery, especially in a classroom full of kids. If everyone tests it out with a delay in this range and agrees, we could institute a delay betw

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] Refactor invites for 1-1 Chat (#6298)

2008-06-10 Thread Morgan Collett
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 17:25, Guillaume Desmottes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le mercredi 04 juin 2008 à 17:08 +0200, Morgan Collett a écrit : >> The main code to review is at: >> http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=users/morgan/sugar;a=shortlog;h=6298 (3 >> most recent patches). > > As bundle_id is passe

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] Change tabbing to show a preview by opening the frame

2008-06-10 Thread Benjamin Berg
On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 09:58 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 12:20 AM, Benjamin Berg > > Unfortunately there are a couple of issues with palettes. > > > > One issue is that that at first only the primary palette is shown, but > > after a while the secondary palette will pop up (a

[sugar] [PATCH] Make the favorite activity icons draggable

2008-06-10 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, this patch adds the ability to drag activity icons out from the ring. Thanks, Tomeu From 5b44c112e59ed581001bdcadb962ff7f2bb9f9d7 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED](none)> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:55:37 +0200 Subject: [PATCH] Make the favorite activity icons drag

Re: [sugar] not preserving journal

2008-06-10 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:06:37AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 10:06 PM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Yes, we have several tickets about these issues, but nobody to work on them >>

Re: [sugar] not preserving journal

2008-06-10 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:06:37AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 10:06 PM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, we have several tickets about these issues, but nobody to work on them :/ Please cite ticket numbers. > Anyway, note that most of the final users will

Re: [sugar] frame activation

2008-06-10 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
>> do we have any feedback regarding frame activation and the new control >> panel option? > As much as I hate the mouse activation, I still think this is a > sensible default. On the XO we have a Frame key, but on other hw > discovering the frame could be a lot harder. From using Joyride 2024, t

[sugar] review: Guillaume's 'activity' branch of Gadget

2008-06-10 Thread Dafydd Harries
> diff --git a/gadget/component.py b/gadget/component.py > index b5fc702..dd85a03 100644 > --- a/gadget/component.py > +++ b/gadget/component.py > @@ -92,8 +92,9 @@ class Room(object): > def __init__(self, own_nick): > self.own_nick = own_nick > self.membership = None > -

Re: [sugar] Avoid duplicates in the bundle registry

2008-06-10 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
> Anyway, I guess we'll have to wait until some real testing is done for > 8.2 in order to reach an agreement on what we should do with bundle > management. I handle duplicates in the activity bundle registry by religiously using something like the 'sugar-forget-bundle' script. Besides, these d

Re: [sugar] frame activation

2008-06-10 Thread Walter Bender
Bert's point is a good one and a further argument for keeping it configurable. On my XO, the touchpad is flaky but there is a frame key. On my HP, the touchpad is reasonably stable, but I need to remember an undiscoverable keyboard binding. So I would like to have almost opposite behaviors dependin

Re: [sugar] frame activation

2008-06-10 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 10.06.2008, at 12:15, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > Hi, > > do we have any feedback regarding frame activation and the new control > panel option? > > Is it ok to ship with hot corners on by default and let the users > change it if they wish? As much as I hate the mouse activation, I still think this

[sugar] frame activation

2008-06-10 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, do we have any feedback regarding frame activation and the new control panel option? Is it ok to ship with hot corners on by default and let the users change it if they wish? Thanks, Tomeu ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] Avoid duplicates in the bundle registry

2008-06-10 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
(sorry about the late reply) On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:46:45AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 09:15:39AM +0200, Tomeu V

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] Journal able to use "open with" for activity bundles

2008-06-10 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
(sorry about the big delay) On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Jameson Chema Quinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> +if self._jobject.is_activity_bundle(): >> +menu_item = MenuItem(_('Start'))

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] Adapt object chooser to new designs. Some refactoring was needed.

2008-06-10 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 8:42 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > this patch adapts the object chooser to the mockups linked below. It > was needed to refactor the ListView and CollapsedEntry classes in > order to separate the common functionality between the journal list > view and

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] Change tabbing to show a preview by opening the frame

2008-06-10 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Although I could find some time this week to look at these patches, I >> would be happier if Marco could find time do do it, as he knows be

Re: [sugar] not preserving journal

2008-06-10 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 10:06 PM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I tend to __mess__ with my XO. As such, I realize I have to take my > lumps once in a while. But - the OLPC appears to NOT be safe from > people like me. > > I have two different builds (in /versions) on my XO - a Joyri

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] Change tabbing to show a preview by opening the frame

2008-06-10 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Although I could find some time this week to look at these patches, I > would be happier if Marco could find time do do it, as he knows better > about these window manager stuff. I know he's very busy, though... I could do

Re: [sugar] journal object transfer for 8.2

2008-06-10 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:48 AM, Guillaume Desmottes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le lundi 09 juin 2008 à 16:12 -0400, Michael Stone a écrit : >> Tomeu, >> >> > have heard occasional requests to implement the sending and sharing of >> > journal entries. >> >> It's a desirable feature but, from my p

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] fix #4646 - replace/normalize some keyboard shortcuts

2008-06-10 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
r+ As there are no code changes, I think that patches like this can get into the repo just with Eben's approval. Thanks, Tomeu On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Martin Dengler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Eben transferred this ticket to Sugar saying he's OK with these > changes. Can someone revi

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] New startup notification

2008-06-10 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
r+ Thanks! On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > this is heavily based on Eben work. Full patch is attached, splitted > up commits here (from "Remove pending..."): > http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=users/marco/sugar;a=summary > > Not very well tes

Re: [sugar] [PATCH 2/2] return 0, not None, if we can't get the mixer volume

2008-06-10 Thread Martin Dengler
Thanks -- pushed both patches. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 09:25:43AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > r+ Thanks! > > On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 5:25 AM, Martin Dengler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- > > src/hardware/hardwaremanager.py |2 +- > > 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) > >

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] Change tabbing to show a preview by opening the frame

2008-06-10 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi Benjamin, On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 12:20 AM, Benjamin Berg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > Some patches that implement nicer tabbing will follow. With the patches > applied, pressing +Tab will show the frame. The activity that will > be selected as soon as is released again is shown by p

Re: [sugar] journal object transfer for 8.2

2008-06-10 Thread Guillaume Desmottes
Le lundi 09 juin 2008 à 16:12 -0400, Michael Stone a écrit : > Tomeu, > > > have heard occasional requests to implement the sending and sharing of > > journal entries. > > It's a desirable feature but, from my perspective, it's much lower in > immediate priority than work which brings the sugar U

Re: [sugar] [PATCH 2/2] return 0, not None, if we can't get the mixer volume

2008-06-10 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
r+ Thanks! On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 5:25 AM, Martin Dengler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- > src/hardware/hardwaremanager.py |2 +- > 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/src/hardware/hardwaremanager.py b/src/hardware/hardwaremanager.py > index 29f5fba..2f92537 10

Re: [sugar] [PATCH 1/2] set_mute --> set_muted, consistent with get_muted()

2008-06-10 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
r+ Thanks! On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 5:25 AM, Martin Dengler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- > src/hardware/hardwaremanager.py |5 +++-- > src/model/devices/speaker.py|2 +- > 2 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/src/hardware/hardwaremanager.py b/src/hardwar

Re: [sugar] journal object transfer for 8.2

2008-06-10 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 11:09 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 10:12 PM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> So the questions are: is this a feature we should deliver for the 8.2 >>> release? >> >> In my opinion, "no". >> >> Do you think different