Re: [sugar] Multiple branches and translation of strings - seeking suggestions for best practices

2008-09-23 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi Arjun, Sarwal wrote: Hi, For the Activity that I maintain, I maintain two branches - devel and stable. At the time of a release contents of devel=stable. I am realizing that I am not implementing the best practice. As time passes stable continues to remain the same while I do

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Sugar DIgest 2008-09-22

2008-09-23 Thread Simon Schampijer
6. Workshop of Telematics: Luis Michelena from the faculty of engineering at the Universidad de la República, Uruguay, will be using Sugar as a central theme for the projects to be carried out by students. Project suggestions most welcome. It is a bit dependent on the scope of the project

[sugar] Reviews report

2008-09-23 Thread Release Team
= Rejected requests = Battery fully charged shows up in error (battery is removed) http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/5867 ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

Re: [sugar] Supporting desktop applications, extending the EWMH spec

2008-09-23 Thread Walter Bender
Could you please elaborate on what the behavior of the Journal has to do with this thread? -walter On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 05:01:41PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: My impression, based on historical conversations with the

Re: [sugar] Supporting desktop applications, extending the EWMH spec

2008-09-23 Thread Erik Garrison
Well. It's off-topic. I guess it came to mind because the Journal and datastore are a point of incompatibility between Sugar and the rest of the Linux desktop world. Erik On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 08:16:25AM -0400, Walter Bender wrote: Could you please elaborate on what the behavior of the

Re: [sugar] Supporting desktop applications, extending the EWMH spec

2008-09-23 Thread Erik Garrison
Well. It's off-topic. I guess it came to mind because the Journal and datastore are a point of incompatibility between Sugar and the rest of the Linux desktop world. Erik On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 08:16:25AM -0400, Walter Bender wrote: Could you please elaborate on what the behavior of the

[sugar] OOM and accidental activity launching

2008-09-23 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Some people have mentioned that they would like to see bugs of general interest advertised on the mailing lists. As such, if you are interested in the subject line, you may enjoy a proposal at http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8611 - --Ben -BEGIN PGP

Re: [sugar] frame gets in the way when alt-tabbing

2008-09-23 Thread Erik Garrison
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 03:28:33PM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... So perhaps the best thing to do is to add a configuration option to allow the user to enable or disable this behavior? Would it be better if the

Re: [sugar] OOM and accidental activity launching

2008-09-23 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Some people have mentioned that they would like to see bugs of general interest advertised on the mailing lists. As such, if you are interested in the subject line,

[sugar] feedback about usage of the journal in uruguay (was Re: Supporting desktop applications, extending the EWMH spec)

2008-09-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 8:52 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For what it's worth, it is also my impression. I have heard similarly from virtually all technically-oriented parties involved. I have heard echos of this from less technical users (e.g. teachers who are confused by the

Re: [sugar] frame gets in the way when alt-tabbing

2008-09-23 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 23.09.2008 um 06:21 schrieb Erik Garrison: Both Joyride and 8.2 streams have composition enabled by default. You can test composition by running xcompmgr -d :0.0 in the terminal. It is available, but the window manager does not use it, afaik. - Bert -

Re: [sugar] frame gets in the way when alt-tabbing

2008-09-23 Thread Gary C Martin
On 23 Sep 2008, at 15:08, Bert Freudenberg wrote: Am 23.09.2008 um 06:21 schrieb Erik Garrison: Both Joyride and 8.2 streams have composition enabled by default. You can test composition by running xcompmgr -d :0.0 in the terminal. It is available, but the window manager does not use

Re: [sugar] frame gets in the way when alt-tabbing

2008-09-23 Thread Erik Garrison
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 03:21:04PM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: On 23 Sep 2008, at 15:08, Bert Freudenberg wrote: Am 23.09.2008 um 06:21 schrieb Erik Garrison: Both Joyride and 8.2 streams have composition enabled by default. You can test composition by running xcompmgr -d :0.0 in

Re: [sugar] Which to translate: Gulcose82 or Gulcose

2008-09-23 Thread Korakurider
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 1:12 AM, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 9:29 PM, Korakurider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 1:06 AM, Korakurider [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[sugar] [RELEASE] sugar-artwork 0.82.3

2008-09-23 Thread Simon Schampijer
Sources: http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/sugar-artwork/sugar-artwork-0.82.3.tar.bz2 News: Fix corrupted network-wireless-060.svg ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

Re: [sugar] [RELEASE] sugar-artwork 0.82.3

2008-09-23 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Simon Schampijer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sources: http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/sugar-artwork/sugar-artwork-0.82.3.tar.bz2 News: Fix corrupted network-wireless-060.svg Can you open a trac bug for this and put it in the 'approve for release' state?

Re: [sugar] [RELEASE] sugar-artwork 0.82.3

2008-09-23 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:53 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Simon Schampijer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sources: http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/sugar-artwork/sugar-artwork-0.82.3.tar.bz2 News: Fix corrupted network-wireless-060.svg Can

[sugar] No icons for activities in sugar-jhbuild

2008-09-23 Thread Gustavo Olaza
Hi, I've recently (and finally) compiled sugar-jhbuild successfully. This time the host is a Ubuntu Hardy (8.04). I've followed the steeps left for Ubuntu in the wiki: git-clone git://dev.laptop.org/sugar-jhbuild cd sugar-jhbuild git-pull ./sugar-jhbuild update ./sugar-jhbuild build When I run

Re: [sugar] simple datastore replacement, take two

2008-09-23 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tomeu Vizoso wrote: | 2.- all metadata properties are just strings. I think this is a good decision (especially since by strings you mean byte arrays). However, it's not quite true. Your design actually has two classes of metadata properties:

Re: [sugar] Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-09-23 Thread Ivan Krstić
On Sep 23, 2008, at 2:05 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: A hand-drawn proposal for what a Journal supporting directory traversal as well as tag space exploration is in the attached PDF. Discussion welcome! FWIW, I made several impassioned proposals for these features -- in fact, with some visual

Re: [sugar] simple datastore replacement, take two

2008-09-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tomeu Vizoso wrote: | 2.- all metadata properties are just strings. I think this is a good decision (especially since by strings you mean byte arrays). However, it's not quite true. Your design actually has two

Re: [sugar] Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-09-23 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 C. Scott Ananian wrote: | A hand-drawn proposal for what a Journal supporting directory | traversal as well as tag space exploration is in the attached PDF. |

Re: [sugar] [RELEASE] Write 58

2008-09-23 Thread J.M. Maurer
On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 15:23 +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote: Simon Schampijer wrote: J.M. Maurer wrote: On Sun, 2008-09-14 at 13:20 +0200, J.M. Maurer wrote: Changelog: * Fix 6021: Write crash on buddy left * Add license field to activity.info Bundle:

Re: [sugar] Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-09-23 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 C. Scott Ananian wrote: | On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz | [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- | Hash: SHA1 | | C. Scott Ananian wrote: | | A hand-drawn proposal for what a Journal supporting directory

Re: [sugar] Test Results Needed for Activities in 8.2

2008-09-23 Thread genesee
Howdy Greg S, What about the Help activity? It was not on my G1G1v1 xo. The lack of any documentation or a manual in the box was understandable in environmental terms. No tutorial or help files would have fully freaked me out save for my advanced sense of adventure. The Help activity would have

Re: [sugar] Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-09-23 Thread Eduardo H. Silva
Scott, I thought you came to the conclusion that there was no use for ordered tags. What changed your mind? Was it the abilty to browse hierarchical systems with the Journal? I also thought you came to the conclusion that turning directory names as tags alone worked. How would the results be

Re: [sugar] Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-09-23 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Eduardo H. Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott, I thought you came to the conclusion that there was no use for ordered tags. What changed your mind? Was it the abilty to browse hierarchical systems with the Journal? I also thought you came to the conclusion

Re: [sugar] Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-09-23 Thread Eduardo H. Silva
Ah, so that's why you separate these legacy-hierarchical files with a light grey slash (/) . So that a kid who only knows the Journal tagging world can ignore it, and users who have know the hierarchical world can understand it and make advance usage of that knowledge when transfering from or

Re: [sugar] Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-09-23 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Eduardo H. Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, so that's why you separate these legacy-hierarchical files with a light grey slash (/) . So that a kid who only knows the Journal tagging world can ignore it, and users who have know the hierarchical world can

Re: [sugar] Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-09-23 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 6:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: c. scott ananian wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Eduardo H. Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, so that's why you separate these legacy-hierarchical files with a light grey slash (/) . So that a kid who only knows the

Re: [sugar] Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-09-23 Thread Eduardo H. Silva
I also imagine that the Extra options menu would appear in the main toolbar in the Detailed view. And aditionally, like in one of eben's mockup, once a entry is checked in this list view, either the main toolbar changes to provide contextual actions (those you placed in that menu, copy, apply

Re: [sugar] Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-09-23 Thread Eben Eliason
I'm paying attention to this thread, quietly. I like a lot of this. :) I'll let it continue without interfering, for now, but I wanted to point out that the new toolbar design (posted on the wiki) would make that more actions option much nicer. For that matter, as Eduardo mentions, they don't

Re: [sugar] Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-09-23 Thread pgf
c. scott ananian wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Eduardo H. Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, so that's why you separate these legacy-hierarchical files with a light grey slash (/) . So that a kid who only knows the Journal tagging world can ignore it, and users who have know

Re: [sugar] Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-09-23 Thread Bobby Powers
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 6:25 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm paying attention to this thread, quietly. I like a lot of this. :) I'll let it continue without interfering, for now, but I wanted to point out that the new toolbar design (posted on the wiki) would make that more

Re: [sugar] Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-09-23 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 7:48 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am a little unsure what the Actions, Objects and Labels tabs do however. They are alternate views, or ways of organizing, the data. The action/object split is elaborated upon in the posted Journal designs.

Re: [sugar] Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-09-23 Thread Eduardo H. Silva
One extra thing that epiphany has that you didn't explicitelly showed in your mockup is, as you select/type tags, the most popular and/or recent section of the tag pane gets related tags thrown into its mix. Related tags are those which have been applied to objects along side the typed one(s).

[sugar] Please help test our new best 8.2.0 candidate, 8.2-763!

2008-09-23 Thread Michael Stone
You'll know that we're nearing the end of our arduous 8.2.0 release cycle when you see the polish and features in our new candidate build, 8.2-763, valid until Wednesday, September 30 [1]. Its changelog (from 759) is available here: