[In the 'On the Naming of Sugar' thread, 'Glucose' was proposed as
the name of the minimal system that must be added to a standard
Linux distribution in order to enable Activities to run, 'Fructose'
as the name of a set of (demonstration) Activities, and 'Sucrose' as
the name for a complete
* More responsive UI - faster launch of activities
Is the solution currently in joyride satisfactory for the August release?
I use a recent Joyride on my G1G1. My average time to launch Browse
(from the time I click in the F3 Activity Ring on the Browse icon,
to the time when I can click
If you could download the latest joyride, time startup and open a
ticket that would be useful. 25 seconds are too much obviously.
I took the time on Joyride 1932, which had been manually updated
(via yum install) with cups-libs 1:1.2.12-11.fc7 and telepathy-glib
0.7.8-1.olpc2, to bring it up
One low-hanging fruit for faster activity start is having activity install
compile .pyc files
There are .pyc files here and there in the XO core software. I do
not expect to myself be changing Activity code -- but if the OLPC is
supposed to be easy enough for a kid to program - *someone*
Walter wrote:
I think we need to decouple the release cycles between activities and
Sugar to whatever degree possible. Activities should be able to change
at whatever pace is dictated by the activity developers. Since
activities depend upon Sugar, the Sugar schedule needs to be more
It was terrible to lose the pie chart for resource usage.
That was very useful for both developers and kids.
Was indication (by the ring) of resource usage actually released to
users? My G1G1 showed only fixed-width pie slices.
Here is an opportunity for a new user-information Activity.
A
On my G1G1, I've installed (primary+alternate) both Joyride and
Update.1. Since Update.1 now comes without Activities, I have
populated /home/olpc/Activities with what I want for Update.1
But Joyride comes with Activities in /usr/share/activities -- so
I've ended up with some duplicates
Eben wrote:
I'm certainly all for removing alt-n and alt-p. We don't need
redundant shortcuts here, and alt-tab and alt-shift-tab will work fine
I disagree with alt-n and alt-p not considered useful. Either can
be done using TWO fingers. Needing three fingers for backwards-tab
navigation
Michael Stone wrote:
Personally, I have found extensible autostart mechanisms which process
third-party data to be more useful to trojan authors than to users so
I'm mildly inclined to consider such mechanisms to be a misfeatures
Then don't make it easily extensible. I already manually change
[I have not yet found an acceptable multi-screen replacement for Terminal.]
Have you tried http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Quake_Terminal?
Tried it a while ago. Found it completely unusable, because I could
not figure out how to scroll up on the display. [Many programs
produce more output lines
One thing I observe is that it takes considerable time from when I
click on 'Shutdown' in the Main view, until the XO actually stops.
Happened to see the Linux shutdown messages (Is there a way to ask
for these instead of the don't do these screen?) and it seemed to
several times attempt to do
I'm neither a child nor a teacher, so this opinion is personal :
What you want to avoid is having the user decide my intent has been
ignored, when in fact it is something under the covers that is
delaying the completion of his intent.
The best way I can think of to avoid the user making a
I don't believe in going through the Journal to install Activities.
Instead, I manually download the .xo file to my SD card, then use
'sugar-install-bundle filename' to install that Activity in my XO.
This used to work fine. But today (using Joyride 1094)
sugar-install-bundle gave me an error
G1G1, very recent Joyride. When on boot my XO fails to find the
specified jabber server online, it switches to salut in place of
gabble. Suppose the jabber server later does join the internet --
I would like to try to connect to it.
Is re-starting Sugar (ctl-alt-erase) the only approved way
G1G1. Joyride 1848. Made the mistake of pressing ctl-alt-erase.
When the new Sugar came up, it asked me for the Name and the Colors.
I found that I had lost the previous Journal contents, and the Main
screen's activity ring.
I don't depend upon the Journal. What got me upset was that from
Looked at the ePals activity. On my G1G1, the screen text it
presented was offset. The only means available to me to center the
text was to drag the slider within the horizontal scrollbar.
In typical Linux windows, the scrollbars have arrows at their ends.
By clicking on these, the material
The recent talk on Sugar about notifications reminds me that the
OLPC currently appears to lack easy-to-check I'm working on that
feedback to the user.
Combined with Sugar's a single screen for whatever one is doing
philosophy, this serves to HIDE what is going on from the user.
I had
Removing icons from the activity ring is just a matter of
unstarring them in the list view - simple enough to do each
semester. My vote is Option 1.
A much more interesting question is the __order__ in which to show
the Activities:
List view:
Since there appears to be an intent to make the
Gary explained to me:
I was referring to one of the new toolbar icons in the Home view
toolbar, top right. One is for displaying the list of all activities,
the other is for displaying the ring of favorites - the ring of
favourites is the one I was describing as a frog's egg (a round circle
Tomeu wrote
the last joyride build (1825) includes a big part of the shell
redesign explained in http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Designs.
I'm running Joyride 1825 now on my G1G1. The principal difference
I've noted is in my use of the Home view - now that the currently
running activities are
Happens (or does not) randomly: During the interval between when
OFW stops writing the screen (e.g., after the circle of dots has
been drawn, and the non-color doughnut is first being shown) and
when Sugar starts writing the screen (i.e., when the Frame is drawn
and the colored me icon is
Chris wrote
* Continue to have (all) activities present in Joyride builds.
I don't know how many others are like me, but for me this creates
awkwardness (I dual-boot my G1G1 between a public will see this
build (e.g., Update.1) and a development build (e.g., Joyride).
My problem is that I
Tried 'update-activities.py -l' from 700. It failed in
/usr/lib/python2.5/urllib.py on url error invalid proxy for http
I do not have wireless. I do have wired ethernet, which goes
through a proxy to reach the internet. I *am* able to issue
'olpc-update joyride-1769' from the same 700
But perhaps the journal should be seen as the thing that records my
actions and an usb stick just as something were I can copy things
to/from?
I'm an old-timer; my thinking is procedurally-oriented instead of
object-oriented. The above quote expresses what I am currently
doing with my
Tomeo Vizoso wrote:
I haven't tried yet to use git through a proxy, but this thread may be
useful:
http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/2/23/122
Thank you. I had not thought of searching within lkml.
That thread gives four options in all:
(1) use 'http:' instead of 'git:'
(2)
For the fun of it, tried to 'git-clone' sugar (on my non-RedHat
system, to directory /home/olpc). Got the messages: cd: 409: can't
cd to /home/olpc/sugar/.git/refs/remotes/origin fatal: Not a valid
object name HEAD.
In the same place, using the same syntax, tried to 'git-clone' an
unrelated
We have a completely new approach to this on the table, which will be
discussed and hopefully placed into the roadmap soon.
In cyberspace, information is often stored in a hierarchy of
directories (with the higher-level directories serving to organize
access to the the information). OLPC is
I am considering adding some new features that would
require one or more additional main screens.
In working on a non-laptop system with a not-large display, I find
the ability to page among multiple panes to be invaluable.
[I typically set up virtual desktops for this purpose - for me that
The word search is being used in this discussion. It is my
opinion that in cyberspace, two particular functions can make search
engines much more powerful. If these same functions could be
implemented in the context of mesh views, I believe they would prove
similarly helpful to participants:
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