without making it easy to
get your files off the XS and to automaticaly associate with the right
Moodle identity, then we will miss an important user valuable feature.
Thanks,
Greg S
Michael Stone wrote:
On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 03:56:06PM -0500, Greg Smith wrote:
We're mostly thinking
Hi Robert et al,
We really appreciate your staying engaged with the project and we still
need your help along with that of Guillaume!
Thanks a lot for sticking with us, despite the often acerbic nature of
the lists :-(
There are many moving parts and lots of difficult problems here. I don't
Hi Tomeu and Browse engineers,
Talking with Martin L recently he mentioned that you have some ideas on
how the XO can communicate its identity (e.g. serial # and maybe user
name) with a web server. We're mostly thinking of the school server as
the server side but a more generic solution may be
Hi Ebtihaj,
I came across two pages in our wiki which refer to OLPC Afghanistan:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/One_Laptop_Per_Child_Afghanistan
and
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Afghanistan
They are very similar but not exactly the same. Can you collapse them
both in to a single page?
By
Hi Bryan,
I think you have some movement on some of these. I added some more
comments below.
* Why is 767 noticeably slower than 703?
GS - We believe that its faster than 703 but its hard to prove.
Activity launch time is one variable. Since we put up an image now, that
may seem slower but
Hi Marc,
Can you make a .xo file that people can download and install via the
browser on the XO?
If you can post that, I think I can get a few Arabic speakers with
Arabic XOs to try it out.
Thanks,
Greg S
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 23:14:44 +0100
From: J.M. Maurer [EMAIL
Hi Walter et al,
Big +1 on this sentence:
the appropriation of knowledge within
the context of a critical dialog is a powerful model for both learning
and software development.
That's an elegant formulation and IMHO it touches on a key point.
I think context and participants for that
Hi Marco et al,
re:
I'd like to propose another one:
- How Sugar Labs could better work with OLPC in satisfying their
customers. (Greg Smith)
Marco
I'm open to it if there is interest and time available. I'd likely do an
open discussion with a few text only slides to focus, if that's
Hi Guys,
Where can I get more info on what is new in 0.83?
Changelogs from GIT is OK but if there is any higher level write up
(e.g. list of trac bugs resolved and features if any) that would be more
helpful.
Thanks,
Greg S
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 01:24:22 +0100
From: Marco Pesenti Gritti
Hi Michael,
Can you add your use cases on this page for tracking?
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Use_Cases
That page includes some older stuff and some newer stuff so it could be
re-organized and then linked from the [[Feature roadmap]] page.
Let me know how it goes. I have an outstanding task on
Hi All,
We are planning a mini-conference at OLPC headquarters November 17 - 21.
For more information, see the conference wiki page at:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XOcamp_2
Please post any proposals for talks directly on the wiki page at:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XOcamp_2#Proposals
Starting at
Hi Michael et al,
I thought that starting an activity from the Home View would start it
with no state preserved from the last time it was used.
Starting it from a Journal entry would start it with the state of the
saved (kept?) instance, including any files that we worked on before.
In the
Hi Marco,
You should read my weekly report :-)
See:
http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-October/019997.html
I can send that to the sugar list too if people want to see it here.
I only discovered this one in recently and I agree that its got some
very useful stuff in it.
Thanks,
page [2] or by emailing your ideas to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Thanks,
Greg Smith
OLPC Product Manager on behalf of the OLPC development team
[1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XOcamp
[2] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XOcamp_2#Sessions
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Hi Tomeu,
Thanks for asking. The product manager role is only meaningful if
developers and users feel they benefit from it :-)
A note on my perspective. So far I have been able to focus exclusively
on XO + Sugar Software. I don't think much about other OSes on XO (e.g.
Fedora or Windows) or
Hi Guys,
This is a great discussion and very helpful design interaction!
Just sampling a few items on this thread I have two high level comments:
1 - The primary requirement for the Journal is to never lose data. I
think there are some known issues with the datastore but I'm not sure
where
Hi Sameer,
I don't see a lot of support yet (I had to look up innumerate in the
dictionary :-) but the Google spreadsheet has been very helpful for me.
I like to think I'm not innumerate but I can be obdurate.
I hope we keep using it and people can take what they want from it.
Each release
Hi All,
Thanks a lot for the input on which activities to ship!
Here is the list of activities I will to management as my suggestion on
what we ship.
Please help test these! See the end of the e-mail for instructions.
The list I recommend is essentially the G1G1 activities (kudos to the
team
Hi All,
We need to pick the activities we ship with 8.2 when its manufactured
for G1G1 users. Management needs to sign off on the final list as early
as next week.
Its not definitive but we want your input on what we should include.
What do you think are the most important activities to
Hi Walter and team,
This looks like an interesting meeting and I would like to go but I have
a conflict at that time.
Can you do Noon US ET tomorrow (Wed.) or the 10AM US ET Thursday?
Thanks,
Greg S
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 12:58:07 -0400
From: Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:
Hi Guys,
That's a winner!
Thanks to Martin D for explaining that screen shots are only used in the
Journal details view. That makes sense now.
I leave it to Michael et al to decide if this patch is safe enough to
try in the release candidate. If it improves performance as much as it
appears,
Hi Marco,
I think its your call if this looks too invasive to stuff in the release
at this stage.
I think task switching is important but not super-common. The frame open
and close seems much more common and slowness there can appear like
slowness within the activity.
Would it be possible to
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would check this myself but I'm not in front of an XO right now
(need to bring some home again ASAP).
Thanks,
Greg S
Erik Garrison wrote:
On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 06:50:00PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Tomeu,
Pardon my
Hi Marco et al,
This is very helpful work on planning the next release. A few high level
process-like comments from me for starters.
1 - I think we need more time. I believe that I saw somewhere that we
want to finalize the choice of target features by 9/7. I wont have time
to devote to 9.1
Hi David,
Very constructive and encouraging e-mail!
The PDF looks interesting too.
Thanks,
Greg S
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Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:34:44 -0500
From: David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [sugar] Release Cycle
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Guys,
Great question! So basic but so relevant!
I don't think its just the image size, but I'm open to suggestions.
I found one way using build 703 to get an image off the web and in to write.
Open Browse and go to the page you want to get the image from. Then hold
down the shift key and
Hi All,
+1 on not reaching out over the network or doing anything without user
input.
I'm also nervous about the software update icon in the control panel
going out over the network and doing something immediately after you
click and before you do anything else with the Update interface. Is
, but
the more we focus the project on a limited set of URLs, the better.
Thanks,
Greg S
Bernie Innocenti wrote:
Greg Smith wrote:
I prefer it on lists.laptop.org. Mainly because I don't have capacity
to watch lists from two mailman servers.
What do you mean by this? Do you read the archives rather
Hi Morgan,
I prefer it on lists.laptop.org. Mainly because I don't have capacity to
watch lists from two mailman servers.
It also depends somewhat on the purpose. We need to communicate
dependencies, APIs, and other things related to activities on the XO.
Hopefully we can use this list for
Hi Ben,
Thanks for the input.
I'm glad you sent this before the launch of 8.2.0 as it would be very
discouraging to launch a new release then have one of the lead engineers
say this sucks ;-)
That said, I don't think we can address many (any?) of these things in
8.2.0 due to the constraints
24, 2008 at 6:16 AM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi All,
I just got word from a decision maker that they are very
concerned about performance. They say that Sugar is slow. I'm probing
to get more details but I want to evaluate the options in parallel.
Focus is on improving
Hi Tomeu,
Thanks for the info.
No change in plan right now. I'm just looking for background info and
ideas.
Please forge ahead as already planned for now.
Thanks,
Greg S
Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'll come back with more
Hi Guys,
RTL is a blocker and it should be all RTL issues unless we can show that
they are cosmetic or there is an acceptable work around.
The reason they are show stoppers is that we have major Arabic
deployments planned for this fall and winter (northern hemisphere).
I believe these are
Hi All,
I've come to appreciate that the journal behavior can be variable
depending on how many items it has.
Aside from the NAND full crash, I think it works slow or not at all in
older release (e.g. 656) if many items are in the journal.
The test team could use an automated method to fill
Hi All,
We have a posted job opening for a Sugar UI coder:
http://laptop.org/en/jobs.shtml#User%20Interface%20Developer%20for%20Sugar
We prefer someone in Cambridge. MA, USA but if you are a superstar pygtk
coder, remote may work too.
Please spread the word and get us some top notch resumes
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi All,
I need the latest, final, definitive screen shots and documentation on
new Sugar GUI planned for 8.2.0 in the release notes ASAP.
I plan to send release notes to deployment leads to see if they are
interested in using
Hi All,
Its crunch time for 8.2.0!
We need triage the bug list down to must fix items and focus on those.
We're on for another bug triage on IRC (Freenode.net channel
#sugar-meeting) Monday 9AM US ET.
We will walk through the bug lists linked from here:
Hi All,
Can I get a quick +1/-1 on this question related to
http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7331
The new Home View in 8.2.0 will have three available styles. We need to
pick one to default on first upgrade or install.
Choices are:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:Home_Freeform_View8.2.png
Hi All,
I need the latest, final, definitive screen shots and documentation on
new Sugar GUI planned for 8.2.0 in the release notes ASAP.
I plan to send release notes to deployment leads to see if they are
interested in using 8.2.0. I will say that the release notes are subject
to change but
and
the core activities support NN languages (which means more than 80%
of the UI is translated). The languages are blah
http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.22/#rni18 would be a good
example
Thanks,
Sayamindu
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi
Hi Guys,
On upgrade from 656, 703, 708 or any release which has no favorites
concept, I think we should start with all activities visible in all Home
Views (AKA in favorites).
Is that what we will get with 8.2.0?
I agree with putting any new activity it in favorites on first install too.
Hi Tarun,
I'm not sure that option 2 will work. I'm not optimistic :-(
Tomeu said he will try to look at this weekend. Hopefully he can comment
or help direct you.
We're in deep trouble here so I'm relaxing the no changes to XO position.
Changes to any activity that are well bounded and don't
Hi All,
Really sorry that I cross posted this EduBlog thread to sugar!
That was an e-mail autocomplete error on my part :-(
I need to slow down.
Its not intended to be a sugar issue. Nevertheless let me know if you
have any questions on it.
I'll try to quash it back off the list ASAP.
My
+1 on Gary's comments! Hysterical and spot on. Please keep them coming
and let me know if I can help you with your project participation.
This is an important discussion about version numbers. The most
important part will be coming to a working assumption (albeit temporary
and subject to
. Obviously we start with 1.)
if this is incorrect, please, PLEASE (!!) remove it from the f$#
%ing bit rot wiki!
Michael Stone wrote:
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 09:10:56AM -0400, Greg Smith wrote:
Who can gather the consensus and take responsibility for updating the
wiki if needed?
No one
Hi Walter,
Thanks for scraping that off the sur list.
+1 on the entire idea from me.
My only concern is to try and keep it to one definitive page.
This is the one I am currently aware of.
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities
Are you talking about updating that or something else?
Thanks,
Hi All,
Can I get a link to any documentation on what the new Graphical Sugar
Control panel will support in XO release 8.2.0?
I tried searching the sugar wiki and OLPC wiki but didn't see it after
1/2 hour of trying :-(
FYI I did find this on the current sugar control panel:
Hi Chris,
Good idea, will do.
I'm trying to write the documentation about what it does for people who
are trying to decide if they want to try this release (in release
notes). So they wont have the release itself to try out and we'll need a
written explanation of it at some point. I'll try
Hi All,
Very nice schedule and patch submission guidelines!
Its great work and very helpful in showing how to create a transparent
process that encourages people to participate.
A few questions is the new Sugar GUI available in Spanish, how about
other languages?
Can you add a step in the
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