Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Major Changes in the latest Snapshot

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:48, Christoph > Derndorfer wrote: > > Hi, > > thanks a lot for the release, I downloaded the appliance and tested it > for a > > bit with VirtualBox 3.0.2. > > These are very helpful comments. If you or someone else c

[Sugar-devel] article about Sugar in Wired magazine

http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2009/08/inventing-a-new-paradigm-sugarlabs-and-the-sugar-ui/ enjoy David Van Assche -- Charles de Gaulle - "The better I get to know men, the more I find myself loving dogs." _

Re: [Sugar-devel] buddy tags

On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartz < bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu> wrote: > Eben Eliason wrote: > > I suppose there's no ridding of 'Logout", > > "Restart", and "Shutdown". =) > > These all seem to be options related to control of the machine, not the > user. I think a frame device

Re: [Sugar-devel] buddy tags

On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 12:00:56AM -0400, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: > These all seem to be options related to control of the machine, not the > user. I think a frame device would be preferable here. These controls, > remember, were placed on the user's XO-icon before the advent of frame > devic

Re: [Sugar-devel] buddy tags

Eben Eliason wrote: > I suppose there's no ridding of 'Logout", > "Restart", and "Shutdown". =) These all seem to be options related to control of the machine, not the user. I think a frame device would be preferable here. These controls, remember, were placed on the user's XO-icon before the ad

Re: [Sugar-devel] buddy tags

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Gary C Martin wrote: > Hi Eben, > > On 4 Aug 2009, at 02:19, Eben Eliason wrote: > >> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Gary C Martin wrote: >>> >>> On 2 Aug 2009, at 15:00, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >>> Hi Gary (and others), what was decided about buddy tagg

[Sugar-devel] How to build an activity with a submodule?

I've made a branch gitorious repository at git.sugarlabs.org: http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/pippy/repos/pippy-groupthink This repo uses a submodule to refer to groupthink, from http://dev.laptop.org/git/projects/dobject/ How can I produce an activity bundle to test? If I clone pippy-groupt

Re: [Sugar-devel] Screen Reposition?

Hi Art, On 4 Aug 2009, at 02:42, Art Hunkins wrote: > At: > http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/39 > I found the following observation: > > "I think that the right solution for such a tiny display is to > globally > scale the display, using the bin/sugar to set SUGAR_SCALING to 72. The > question i

Re: [Sugar-devel] buddy tags

Hi Eben, On 4 Aug 2009, at 02:19, Eben Eliason wrote: > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Gary C Martin > wrote: >> On 2 Aug 2009, at 15:00, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> >>> Hi Gary (and others), >>> >>> what was decided about buddy tagging? >> >> No one else has commented yet :-( > > I had a brief con

Re: [Sugar-devel] Can I use the keep or title_set_by_user key of metadata to store info about my activity

Hi Sumit, On 4 Aug 2009, at 02:09, sumit singh wrote: > Hi Tomeu, > > This is in continuation with our chat yesterday. The write/report > activity would be having 3 states , I mean whether the user is working > on a blank document , designing a new template or using a previously > designed templa

Re: [Sugar-devel] Screen Reposition?

At: http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/39 I found the following observation: "I think that the right solution for such a tiny display is to globally scale the display, using the bin/sugar to set SUGAR_SCALING to 72. The question is, how to detect display resolution from this shell script? The only

Re: [Sugar-devel] buddy tags

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Gary C Martin wrote: > On 2 Aug 2009, at 15:00, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > >> Hi Gary (and others), >> >> what was decided about buddy tagging? > > No one else has commented yet :-( I had a brief conversation with Christian about this recently. He said he'd try to catch

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Collaboration for Poets

Hi, As we get pilots of Sugar on a Stick and Sugar on Netbooks going this Sept there are going to be a lot of questions about collaboration. When it works its wonderful! It makes a huge difference. It works well in the GPA computer lab. Sometimes it does work, we need to get some documentation u

[Sugar-devel] Can I use the keep or title_set_by_user key of metadata to store info about my activity

Hi Tomeu, This is in continuation with our chat yesterday. The write/report activity would be having 3 states , I mean whether the user is working on a blank document , designing a new template or using a previously designed template. So, what I wanted was to save this state as well while saving t

Re: [Sugar-devel] Erase in the Ring and less hot hot corners

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Gary C Martin wrote: > On 4 Aug 2009, at 00:26, Caroline Meeks wrote: > >> +1 to taking erase out of the activity ring.  We need to keep that >> view as simple as possible for the youngest children.  Moving the >> mouse is a challenge for the youngest kids, fewer tar

Re: [Sugar-devel] Erase in the Ring and less hot hot corners

On 4 Aug 2009, at 00:26, Caroline Meeks wrote: > +1 to taking erase out of the activity ring. We need to keep that > view as simple as possible for the youngest children. Moving the > mouse is a challenge for the youngest kids, fewer targets with less > that can go wrong is a big win. Fil

[Sugar-devel] Erase in the Ring and less hot hot corners

+1 to taking erase out of the activity ring. We need to keep that view as simple as possible for the youngest children. Moving the mouse is a challenge for the youngest kids, fewer targets with less that can go wrong is a big win. I think I'm also a +1 on the less hot hot corners. I definitely s

Re: [Sugar-devel] First step towards an efficient feedback process

On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 01:22:35AM +0545, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: > e.g. here in Nepal they [...] removed the 'Remove' option from the > activities menu in Home View (so activities can only be truly removed > from the List View). I confirm that with the children I test on, using OLPC build 802

Re: [Sugar-devel] First step towards an efficient feedback process

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: > Quite frankly speaking I don't understand why the deployment related > conversations and feedback should be kept on IAEP when most of it > (especially at early stages of deployments and school projects, which is > were most small and lar

Re: [Sugar-devel] buddy tags

On 2 Aug 2009, at 15:00, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > Hi Gary (and others), > > what was decided about buddy tagging? No one else has commented yet :-( > Were you interested in working on it? Yes, I've just added some new mock-ups (keeping them as simple/ achievable as possible), so maybe someone els

Re: [Sugar-devel] First step towards an efficient feedback process

On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 12:46 AM, Christoph Derndorfer < christoph.derndor...@gmail.com> wrote: > So, to end this with an actionable item I would suggest that we start > flashing out a process and preferably an actual questionnaire of some kind > to be sent to people in deployments listed on the pa

Re: [Sugar-devel] First step towards an efficient feedback process

Quite frankly speaking I don't understand why the deployment related conversations and feedback should be kept on IAEP when most of it (especially at early stages of deployments and school projects, which is were most small and large efforts are at the moment) will be of a relatively technical natu

[Sugar-devel] Reviving the Deployment Team

It looks like we have enough sustainable contributors to revive the Deployment team! The existing deployment team information is at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Deployment_Team . I would like to begin by slightly narrowing the deployment teams mission to: The mission of the Deployment Team is to

[Sugar-devel] First step towards an efficient feedback process

One of the challenges over the next couple of months will be figuring out how to turn 'feedback' from deployments into useful 'information' which the bug squad and deployment team can use. As a first step, I would like to suggest that we keep deployment related threads on i...@sl.o. After all, de

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Major Changes in the latest Snapshot

On 03.08.2009, at 01:02, Sebastian Dziallas wrote: > Hi everybody, > > I'm very happy to announce the availability of a new SoaS snapshot, > > http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/appliances/soas3-20090802.zip > Please report all other issues you encounter (and note the > build date when opening

Re: [Sugar-devel] Screen Reposition?

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 17:12, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: > Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 16:55, Art Hunkins wrote: >>> Is it still possible that resize capability, at least for PyGTK code without >>> absolute positioning, might be included in SoaS? >> >> I don't know if it's possib

Re: [Sugar-devel] Screen Reposition?

Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 16:55, Art Hunkins wrote: >> Is it still possible that resize capability, at least for PyGTK code without >> absolute positioning, might be included in SoaS? > > I don't know if it's possible, anyone has an idea of how feasible is this? I feel like I'm

Re: [Sugar-devel] Screen Reposition?

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 16:55, Art Hunkins wrote: > I've had second thoughts on this issue. > > The problem is not that "SoaS text us way too small when displayed on an > XO-1." SoaS text, *when properly displayed on its native screen (i.e., sized > to/filling the entire screen)*, displays fine on a

Re: [Sugar-devel] Screen Reposition?

I've had second thoughts on this issue. The problem is not that "SoaS text us way too small when displayed on an XO-1." SoaS text, *when properly displayed on its native screen (i.e., sized to/filling the entire screen)*, displays fine on an XO-1. The problem is that activities written for the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Karma] Resolution considerations

Sorry! Can't comment on the referenced patch. I don't have enough experience (yet?) with the code. It's interesting though that on the same screen Soas appears smaller and better proportionned than Sugar on Fedora or the OpenSUSE based Soas. -- Philippe -- The trouble with common sens

Re: [Sugar-devel] Screen Reposition?

On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 20:45, Art Hunkins wrote: > Yes, my version of SoaS is the most recent Strawberry. > > I'd like my new activity to work on XO-1 as well as SoaS in as many contexts > as possible. > > There seems a disconnect between "other efforts to make builds specific for > the XO" and cre

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Karma] Resolution considerations

2009/8/3 Philippe Clérié : > At the moment, I can't see the entire dialog for Network settings on > the HP Mini 110 and there's not even a scrollbar to make visible the > part I can't see. > > And chances are that a year from now we'll have still better > definitions, possibly 1366 x 768 for a 10"

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Karma] Resolution considerations

At the moment, I can't see the entire dialog for Network settings on the HP Mini 110 and there's not even a scrollbar to make visible the part I can't see. And chances are that a year from now we'll have still better definitions, possibly 1366 x 768 for a 10" screen. Plus, more and more manufa

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Karma] Resolution considerations

Well, there are of course many netbooks with different resolutions on the market but the vast majority of devices comes with 1024*600. In fact the only 1024*576 resolution devices I'm currently aware of are the HP Mini, Lenvo Ideapad S10 and the Dell Mini 10. Christoph 2009/8/3 Philippe Clérié >

Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 7:47 AM, Samuel Klein wrote: > Journal needs to cover these features (whatever they resolve to be). Every >> activity author should not be inventing various implementations of a "book >> shelf" UI concepts for dealing with a monoculture 'collection' of objects. >> Imagine if

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Major Changes in the latest Snapshot

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:48, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: > Hi, > thanks a lot for the release, I downloaded the appliance and tested it for a > bit with VirtualBox 3.0.2. These are very helpful comments. If you or someone else could find the time to enter tickets in trac, I hope to get to them so

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Major Changes in the latest Snapshot

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:02 AM, Sebastian Dziallas wrote: > I'm very happy to announce the availability of a new SoaS snapshot, [...] > Please report all other issues you encounter (and note the > build date when opening a ticket please)! I'm still having problems with the openchrome driver (missi

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Karma] Resolution considerations

The HP Mini 110 has a resolution of 1024 x 576. -- Philippe -- The trouble with common sense is that it is so uncommon. On Monday 03 August 2009 05:47:41 Christoph Derndorfer wrote: > Hi, > after looking around a bit I think it makes sense to design > Karma's Chakra and lesson menu arou

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Karma] Resolution considerations

Those are in the right ballpark, but you should try to make the layout fluid if possible :) 2009/8/3 Christoph Derndorfer : > Hi, > after looking around a bit I think it makes sense to design Karma's Chakra > and lesson menu around a baseline resolution of 1024*600 or > 1024*768 since these values

[Sugar-devel] [Karma] Resolution considerations

Hi, after looking around a bit I think it makes sense to design Karma's Chakra and lesson menu around a baseline resolution of 1024*600 or 1024*768 since these values seem to be a good estimation for what to expect in both regular PCs and especially netbooks. What do you think? Christoph -- Chr

Re: [Sugar-devel] Is using the datastore.find() function reliable and safe?

On 03.08.2009, at 01:31, sumit singh wrote: > Hello all, > > I want to save files from my activity so that I can retrieve them from > the future instances of my activity and also want them to be visible > in the journal. So, I am planning to save them in the datastore. And > is planning to retriev

Re: [Sugar-devel] What is your favorite application for use in CS classes?

1) I am currently working on CS, math, and science lessons for primary school classes based on Turtle Art in Sugar education software, originally for the OLPC XO but now available for multiple versions of Linux. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Turtle_Art http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:G