Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOB] another motion (Quispe trip to Translation Summit)

2016-06-03 Thread Dave Crossland
On 3 June 2016 at 14:38, Adam Holt wrote: > On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > >> On 12 May 2016 at 07:59, Walter Bender wrote: >> > Motion: to reimburse Edgar Quispe for expenses incurred representing >> Sugar >> >

[Sugar-devel] Thank you for your efforts!

2016-06-03 Thread Devin
Hi All, I just want to say thank you to everyone on this list for all your efforts! :-) There are certainly many behind the scenes components that make up "Sugar Labs". Cheers! Devin ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOB] minutes from 3 June 2016 oversight board meeting

2016-06-03 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 3 June 2016 at 16:19, Walter Bender wrote: > > I am certain to yet again be accused of making an ad hominem attack, but I > have to say that I was extremely disappointed in the lack of preparedness > for this meeting. Several community members had been working on

[Sugar-devel] [SLOB] minutes from 3 June 2016 oversight board meeting

2016-06-03 Thread Walter Bender
The minutes from today's Sugar Labs Oversight Board meeting are available at [1]. The meeting log is available at [2]. I am certain to yet again be accused of making an ad hominem attack, but I have to say that I was extremely disappointed in the lack of preparedness for this meeting. Several

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOB] another motion (Quispe trip to Translation Summit)

2016-06-03 Thread Adam Holt
On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > On 12 May 2016 at 07:59, Walter Bender wrote: > > Motion: to reimburse Edgar Quispe for expenses incurred representing > Sugar > > Labs at the Traducción e interpretación en las lenguas originarias

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOB] another motion (Quispe trip to Translation Summit)

2016-06-03 Thread Dave Crossland
On 12 May 2016 at 07:59, Walter Bender wrote: > Motion: to reimburse Edgar Quispe for expenses incurred representing Sugar > Labs at the Traducción e interpretación en las lenguas originarias del Perú > meeting in Lima. The cost is $168.88. Did this motion pass? I can't

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Smart way to get $$ for posting videos on youtube

2016-06-03 Thread Sean DALY
On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 6:27 PM, samson goddy wrote: > should we use the adventage of the monetizing My point of view is that we "monetize" through CTAs and fundraising, rather than wait 27 years to get the resources we need through random ads. Sean.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Smart way to get $$ for posting videos on youtube

2016-06-03 Thread samson goddy
We are skipping the main question here, Google Ad grants is based on keyword which SL would definitely join. But what i am saying is that, we need to have a youtube channel. SL is the only non-profit organization that i know of, that does not have a youtube channel. Even OLPC do have youtube

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Smart way to get $$ for posting videos on youtube

2016-06-03 Thread Sean DALY
Yes Samson, the SFC fulfills these criteria. I am sure we would qualify. But as Adam says, let's sort out what we want to do first before going to the SFC. First step is a donor link which lands on their page with SL as prefilled choice. I suggest we try to go for Google Ad Grants, but this

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Smart way to get $$ for posting videos on youtube

2016-06-03 Thread samson goddy
sean can you check this out, i don't think we are qualified for this, https://www.google.com/nonprofits/account/signup/us?hl=en From: sdaly...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 17:46:04 +0200 Subject: Re: [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] Smart way to get $$ for posting videos on youtube To:

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Smart way to get $$ for posting videos on youtube

2016-06-03 Thread samson goddy
yeah, very similar to what i am saying. It's almost the same just that this pays faster. I can do much with it because Nigeria is not among selected countries, maybe dave or you can apply but we still need youtube channels. Samson From: sdaly...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 17:46:04 +0200

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Smart way to get $$ for posting videos on youtube

2016-06-03 Thread Sean DALY
On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 5:51 PM, Walter Bender wrote: > How about "turtle in a box" videos? That would be aligned with our > mission/vision :) Indeed! if there is any way to generate zillions of views it's with turtles ;-)

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Smart way to get $$ for posting videos on youtube

2016-06-03 Thread Walter Bender
On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Sean DALY wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 4:43 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > >> I am eager to see real data on this > > > > YouTube advertiser RPM (revenue per thousand views), called eCPM by > YouTube ("effective cost per

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Smart way to get $$ for posting videos on youtube

2016-06-03 Thread Sean DALY
Samson - what about Google's program for nonprofits? https://www.google.com/grants/ Sean On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 5:34 PM, samson goddy wrote: > > okay i am going to create an open doc in google then explain further about > the video ads. The youtube ads is not as you

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Smart way to get $$ for posting videos on youtube

2016-06-03 Thread samson goddy
okay i am going to create an open doc in google then explain further about the video ads. The youtube ads is not as you think, that's why me and dave will submit a doc to explain more about the youtube ads. From: sdaly...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 17:27:57 +0200 To: d...@lab6.com CC:

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Smart way to get $$ for posting videos on youtube

2016-06-03 Thread Dave Crossland
On 3 June 2016 at 09:17, Adam Holt wrote: > On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: >> >> Adam, please could you confirm with Conservancy that we can set up >> adsense and youtube advertising accounts to raise revenue? > > I don't see why not, if

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Name object on Activity exit revisited

2016-06-03 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, Dave If, for example, I download War and Peace from Gutenberg to an XO, it will take storage space in the Journal. The space taken by this object should be shared among all users. However, a Write document should be private to the author. So the mechanism is the same. The datastore class

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Smart way to get $$ for posting videos on youtube

2016-06-03 Thread Sean DALY
On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 4:43 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > I am eager to see real data on this YouTube advertiser RPM (revenue per thousand views), called eCPM by YouTube ("effective cost per thousand"), commonly varies from 50 US cents to $5 (before Google's Adsense 45% cut). I

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Smart way to get $$ for posting videos on youtube

2016-06-03 Thread samson goddy
yeah sounds cool. Hi dave i am online on hangout, lets chat over there so we can create an open doc in google about the project > From: d...@lab6.com > Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 09:24:28 -0600 > To: h...@laptop.org > CC: market...@lists.sugarlabs.org; sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org; >

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Name object on Activity exit revisited

2016-06-03 Thread Dave Crossland
On 3 June 2016 at 08:49, Tony Anderson wrote: > I think that downloaded pdfs and media files should be stored in a separate > shared datastore to prevent duplicate use of storage. There is some serious > design work that is needed before this can be reliably implemented.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Smart way to get $$ for posting videos on youtube

2016-06-03 Thread Adam Holt
On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > Adam, please could you confirm with Conservancy that we can set up > adsense and youtube advertising accounts to raise revenue? > I don't see why not, if there is a genuine consensus to move forward here? But most important

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Name object on Activity exit revisited

2016-06-03 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, Sebastian I think the alert you are referring to required the user to supply a description for the object not a name. I gather you haven't tried the Browse-157 version he attached in his email The most recent is version 157-12. I feel it is meets the need in design and function. The

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Name object on Activity exit revisited

2016-06-03 Thread Tony Anderson
Utkarsh has made some feature pages but I am also losing track. Multiple users I believe is a much bigger question. The Sugar on Ubuntu uses the same login for Sugar as for Ubuntu - so each user is separately identified. However, on an XO, the activities belong to a single user - olpc. This

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Smart way to get $$ for posting videos on youtube

2016-06-03 Thread Dave Crossland
On 3 June 2016 at 08:34, Sean DALY wrote: > I'm saying random ads will generate peanuts, while well-thought out > fundraising will generate resources greater than peanuts. I am eager to see real data on this. I hope you are proven right :D

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Smart way to get $$ for posting videos on youtube

2016-06-03 Thread Sean DALY
On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > I'm not saying if $X or $Y is greater; I am saying that we don't know > which is greater, and Samson will learn a lot by trying to maximize > the revenue of both. > In that case, I'm saying random ads will generate peanuts,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Smart way to get $$ for posting videos on youtube

2016-06-03 Thread Dave Crossland
On 3 June 2016 at 04:42, Sean DALY wrote: > On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 7:03 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: >> >> Your assertion that SL would see more revenue from CTA compared to ads. > > How can I make up data for a fundraising drive which hasn't happened yet? You

Re: [Sugar-devel] Smart way to get $$ for posting videos on youtube

2016-06-03 Thread Dave Crossland
Adam, please could you confirm with Conservancy that we can set up adsense and youtube advertising accounts to raise revenue? ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Smart way to get $$ for posting videos on youtube

2016-06-03 Thread Dave Crossland
On 3 June 2016 at 07:39, Walter Bender wrote: > Virtual all of the money raised so far by Sugar Labs has been in targeted > requests: Trip Advisor, Gould, Nokia (never signed)... I think there is lots > of evidence that these focused approaches are effective. Is that not

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Smart way to get $$ for posting videos on youtube

2016-06-03 Thread Walter Bender
Virtual all of the money raised so far by Sugar Labs has been in targeted requests: Trip Advisor, Gould, Nokia (never signed)... I think there is lots of evidence that these focused approaches are effective. Is that not evidence in support of Sean's assertion, or am I misinterpreting something?

Re: [Sugar-devel] Smart way to get $$ for posting videos on youtube

2016-06-03 Thread samson goddy
According to the steps of using our social media account without having the password, I already added walter, dave, ignacio, claudia and mike lee. As admins and contributors of @sugar_labs twitter page using this app. So in order to start posting as @sugar_labs here are the steps you need. 1.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Name object on Activity exit revisited

2016-06-03 Thread Walter Bender
Tony, Is there a feature page associated with all of these changes. I am having trouble following it all. FWIW, I am very much in favor of encouraging reflection of any sort -- even simply naming an entry -- upon closing an activity. And I could live with the idea of discarding an entry if the

Re: [Sugar-devel] Smart way to get $$ for posting videos on youtube

2016-06-03 Thread Sean DALY
On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 7:03 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > Your assertion that SL would see more revenue from CTA compared to ads. How can I make up data for a fundraising drive which hasn't happened yet? Sean ___ Sugar-devel mailing

Re: [Sugar-devel] Smart way to get $$ for posting videos on youtube

2016-06-03 Thread samson goddy
Google doc will do. > From: d...@lab6.com > Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 23:06:16 -0600 > To: samsongo...@hotmail.com > CC: market...@lists.sugarlabs.org; sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org; > sam.parkins...@gmail.com; sam...@greenfeld.org > Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Smart way to get $$ for posting

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Name object on Activity exit revisited

2016-06-03 Thread Sebastian Silva
El 03/06/16 a las 01:52, Tony Anderson escribió: > I am not proposing to re-enable that feature. The purpose is to enable > the user to provide a title for the Journal object. Maybe I misunderstood. Isn't that what the name-your-journal-entry on exit dialog used to do? > Why are we not using

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Name object on Activity exit revisited

2016-06-03 Thread Tony Anderson
Again, I have not been clear. The intent in the 'backup restore' option is that Journal objects such as Terminal and Log activities would be saved to a log directory on the school server and deleted from the local Journal (and so not appear at all). This means the statistical benefits of

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Name object on Activity exit revisited

2016-06-03 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, Walter Again I am being careless in writing. My apologies. The purpose in giving the user the option to use the alt key with a default of always starting new is that the current scheme requires additional instruction to sugar users to explain that they must look at the palette to decide

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Name object on Activity exit revisited

2016-06-03 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, Walter Apparently I am being very careless in writing. The intent of this feature is to require a title supplied by the user before the object is saved. If the user changes the title in the activity palette, as per the originial design, the 'save as' alert is not needed. If the user does

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Name object on Activity exit revisited

2016-06-03 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi Sebastian I am not proposing to re-enable that feature. The purpose is to enable the user to provide a title for the Journal object. Why are we not using the alert which Utkarsh has implemented for the fiddle save? It works. It looks good. He has the code in hand. Tony On 06/02/2016