Very sad news indeed.
Here at OLPC France we have lovely memories of his kindness and his
willingness to always make things better for kids and for the Sugar
community in general.
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ip of a large community
sharing a distinct set of values. Part of this community works on a
great software, Firefox, but others work on other tools and all "make
the web a better place" by producing free software and by pushing for
open standard as much as possible.
I hope that clarifi
rful ideas such
as the Journal, the portfolio, collaboration, etc., and I think these
ideas would prove even more stronger if they were not implemented in
just one platform.
I hope everyone can read this as a constructive proposal.
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t's an effective way of
dealing with the lack of contributors.
I think Sugar Labs is still very needed, maybe more than ever, but I
do believe the focus needs a small switch: not a U-turn, just a slight
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https://sustainoss.org and also a list of articles I maintain here:
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As you can see, this is quite a complex issue, I doubt any simple
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ployments" in new
countries?
...
That's what comes on the top of my head right now.
Maybe I'll get some answers for these questions by just asking them on
this list, but a State of Sugar could answer other questions of course.
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Dear all,
we didn't receive any answer to this question: "how to get in touch
with schools or places in south america where XO are still in used?"
This would be very helpful to have, if not direct contacts, at least
some ideas on how to find them.
Thanks again!
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>
IT, IT domain in need of qualified people, etc…)
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Hi Joel,
great to read you want to try setting up a Sugarizer server.
On top of James' guidance, if you feel like asking anything
in the process of setting up the server, please do so with no
hesitation: we're here to assist you.
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Aman Sharma writes:
> Hope this answers your query.
Yes it does -- thanks for taking the time for the detailed answer.
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James Cameron writes:
> It is https://github.com/amanharitsh123/sugarizer-school-box and was
> forked in February, then diverged from upstream in May. 6936833 is
> the point of divergence.
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been updated since feb. 27th so I'm not sure.
Anyway, thanks for putting efforts into writing more documentation,
that's always where things fall short.
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Hi Aman,
this is great work, thank you.
If I may ask, why the initial image is so big? Can you detail a bit
what takes so much place?
Also, is there a documented way to customize the image?
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that's my understanding.
> What I think everyone agrees is that we want to sort this out so
> that both the code bases can move forward.
Indeed! On the Sugarizer side, we are taking this very seriously.
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Hi Tony,
Tony Anderson <t...@olenepal.org> writes:
> Attached is a spreadsheet which shows the current status (subject to
> clerical error).
Ouch. I see a lot of "MII" (missing in inaction?) in this list.
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maintained? Because they just work?
>
> No, they mostly no longer work because libraries they depend on are no
> longer available.
Okay.
>> So who is Sugar currently developed for?
>
> I've no clear answer to that.
Okay. I gues
he
>> GSoC)? Is the OLPC association still somehow involved?
>
> Sugar Labs, SFC, Google, and One Laptop per Child (OLPC, Inc).
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iation still somehow involved?
Sorry if those questions sound naive, I'm just trying to catch up
and understand better the ecosystem at large.
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weight in here, but this sounds like a good idea.
Also, on a more general level: we tend to focus on gathering code
repos while the problem often stems out of sparsed developers.
So perhaps this all should be about *gathering developers* first,
repositories next
uld be to help *discovery* of repositories by
potential contributors.
While I recognize enforcing a central authority is not good, there is
still value in encouraging people to use https://github.com/sugarlabs
which is what the Github button does on th
Hi all,
as much as I appreciate efforts to be completely transparent on those
issues, would you mind having the discussion on a single mailing list?
Receiving those emails twice is a bit stressful.
Thanks!
And a big hugs to all paid or unpaid Sugar/OLPC *volunteers* <3
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Hi sugaristas,
is there an API to access content from aslo?
The purpose is to retrieve information from all activities
to display them on an offline web page. And maybe to play
with a nicer way of searching through all this content.
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Dear all,
here is the PDF for Walter's keynote on saturday:
http://people.sugarlabs.org/walter/olpc-france-sugar-camp-2014-walter-bender.pdf
If anyone wants the TurtleArt sources, just ask him :)
Thanks again Walter for this nice kickoff!
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Vikidia, please go ahead. Here is the mail of the
Kiwix author:
Emmanuel Engelhart emman...@engelhart.org
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the project at the SugarCamp meeting in Paris -- come and
meet them!
http://www.amiando.com/sugarcamp3.html
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of a .zim file for
the english Vikidia to the Kiwix team.
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All this is completely off-topic on this list and I'm personally done
with the good laugh I had, so I suggest we move to something else.
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doubt you officially registered One Tablet Per Child.
I mean... One LEGO Laptop Per Child (TM)... a new trademark with
LEGO within it, seriously?
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, but not difficult. I've been through this
already and will help.
Anyway, let's not let this spoil our pleasure, and congrats again!
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Hi Lionel,
would be nice to see if the sugarizer passes the librejs tests:
see http://www.gnu.org/software/librejs/
Thanks for your work on this!
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Hi all,
I'd like to start translating sugar-docs into french.
What method? Adding the pages in a fr/ subdirectory?
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Hi Manuel,
Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org writes:
That will work.
Okay, thanks!
We can also have FR / EN / .. selector in the site header.
Indeed -- a link in the header would be useful.
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don't know how
it can help Sugar concretely, as I don't even know if Sugar easy
bugs are already listed somewhere.
Maybe someone more familiar wih Sugar can have a look.
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Lionel Laské lio...@olpc-france.org writes:
I've decided to name it Sugarizer and package it as a dedicated web
site:
http://sugarizer.org
Nice! Time to organize a small Sugar on the Web workshop in France
I guess :)
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, and then the activities can follow. Otherwise, it's
just a bunch of random apps, of which there are plenty already in the
various app stores.
Bit +1. Android seems a distraction so far. Let's built on what
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on Android. In this later case, we are just marketing Android.
I'm done with the rant. And of course, I would not feel so strongly
about this if I was not aware about everyone's effort about Sugar.
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a sense of what current devs are comfortable
with? If they are comfortable with using MarkDown, I'd favor
using this.
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software.
I have very little time right now for this, I will continue to use
Sugar in a VM and hope someone can improve ArchLinux support.
But thanks anyway for this work!
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: *** [build] Erreur 1
I would *love* to install Sugar this way!
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working on it, maybe he needs some help?
What about upgrading to a more recent version of the software?
Would be nice to know how one can help here.
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Chris Leonard cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com writes:
Please write it up on the wiki and we will try to get some GCI
contributors to work on it.
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/GoogleCodeIn2012/GCI2012_Brainstorming
Done on the page above as (9).
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+rush
Click the link, trust me, you won't regret it :-)
I'm ready for it :)
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the model is not well
suited for small Orgs with no money. It is good for well-established
Orgs like the Wikimedia Foundation and others, but not for small ones.
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the 'Advanced' search button on the main ASLO:
[cid]
Very useful, thanks!
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me or copy/paste the log file if you wanted me to have a quick
look.
My bad. I clicked on Ignore version check before downloading this
Activity. I will report problems on other Activities when I encounter
them.
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a field in the global search form which lets
you filter the results by Sugar version.
Is it something that is available somehow?
Maybe create temporary collections of activities based on whether they
are compatible with Sugar versions?
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to know
there is a plan to improve this, because so far I'm really reluctant
to engage newbies/non-techies into t.sl.o, they will feel the pain,
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Chris Leonard cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com writes:
There is always working off-line with Virtaal, which is an excellent
option.
Thanks for the pointer (I'm using po-mode in Emacs, which is good
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consistency.
I'll give it a try -- but this will perhaps just make me want to write
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!) into this raw text
content.
Then think on how to reformat/reuse it later on.
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the zim file is
made it looks nice :-)
Emmanuel (cc'ed) is the author of Kiwix and he can help creating .zim
files -- provided that you ask him :)
Please first check that your zim is not already there:
http://www.kiwix.org/index.php/Main_Page/en#Wikipedia_files
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if there is a dedicated Sugar maintainer for Gcompris then
we can but him in touch with Bruno? That way Bruno will just have
to interact with the mentor (lowering the psychological threshold
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Hi all,
does anyone from Sugar follows the Gcompris english mailing
list for developers?
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gcompris-devel
I just subscribed to this list and to the french one, will
try to contact potential contributors to Gcompris/Sugar.
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was able to do this.)
He doesn't have a XO 1.5.
We are right now preparing a project in France that takes all our
XO 1.5 -- so we will not be able to hand him a XO 1.5 over, unless
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may be suitable for end-users docs
but not that much for developers docs.
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Gabriel Eirea gei...@gmail.com writes:
Congratulations Pablo, keep up the good work.
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summarize
the background ideas and motivations for this proposal:
http://lumiere.ens.fr/~guerry/the-four-letters-word-of-floss-docs.html
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directory would be nice.
Even for us, lucky connected chaps, most applications come
with offline documentation...
I'm done with my last 2cts :)
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in this activity, as a reference
accompanying a more formal user manual (either online or online).
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within some core Activities
is worth the storage space.
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Sugar_Introduction.po
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u Journal pour annoter ou commenter les entrées.
Le Cadre
Index
Personnaliser Sugar
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IMHO Telescope sounds good.
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Since some work about extending the Journal is at stake, I thought
this might be of general interest to the list.
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suitably licensed photos and package them up for use in an offline
environment.
Bastien Guerry - reformat the OLPC Deployment Guide
The OLPC Wiki gives access to the PDF version of the [2011 OLPC
Deployment Guide]. I took this guide, converted
The project I have been mentioning in my previous email will
surely use Ubuntu 10.4.
The Sugar version you get with Ubuntu 10.4 is 0.88.
Any way to have a more recent version of Sugar available?
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set of meaningful activities would you pick up?
Hope you're still here. And thanks in advance for any answer!
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as they suggest moves. I am
thinking for example of Sokoban.
Mhh... yes. Abacus would be great too!
Thanks for the answer, I'll share it with the people interested in
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Sascha Silbe si...@sugarlabs.org writes:
With people coming in from all over the world, it would be great to have
a key signing event.
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Dear all,
I'm quite excited by the list of participants for this second SugarCamp
in Paris (sept. 10th and 11th):
Antoine Michelot, Christian Fortunat Kakoba Mugisho, Bastien Guerry,
Christoph Derndorfer, Clément Monjou, Daniel Drake, David Bourguignon,
Gabriel Vieira, Gary Martin
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Let me know how I can help further, best,
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Aloha all,
this is the current list of people who plan to attend the 2nd SugarCamp
in Paris, september 10-11:
Antoine Michelot
Bastien Guerry
Christian Fortunat KAKOBA MUGISHO
Christoph Derndorfer
Jonathan Ragot
Kevin (shaiton) Raymond
Lionel LASKE
Luke Faraone
Melina Gallopin
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OLPC France: http://olpc-france.org
Sugar Labs: http://sugarlabs.org
Contact: b...@laptop.org
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be engaged. This should include not only
Pootle-hosted (and upstream strings), but contributions to
longer-form efforts like FLOSSManuals e-books.
Noted -- thanks.
I plan to stabilize the schedule before next week, so please all
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, but complete sugarization might be
extra work that they cannot afford for now. Eric, please correct me if
I'm wrong.
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-- hopefully we can work on a
short-term solution (local GetBooks + OPDS) and a long-term one
(pathagar).
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for an activity to be
present, this makes it more complex for the learner.
I don't have a strong opinion either way.
Me neither. I was more pointing something that sounded conceptually
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James Cameron qu...@laptop.org writes:
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 02:57:47PM +0200, Bastien wrote:
- such an accidental blank screen could display a warning about ongoing
search bringing no result;
Yes, and that's what the Journal now does. The list view does not.
It would be useful both
:
- such an accidental blank screen could display a warning about ongoing
search bringing no result;
- combine two notions: sticky icons (always in the home circle view)
and favorites. For now, favorites are used as sticky icons... not
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by Eric Bachard and others, please keep him into the
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in the Journal. The
links are relative links like ebooks/[link].epub and work okay
when opened from any other browser.
All this with a recent version of Sugar on a XO 1.5 (I can check
the version number later if needed.)
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are awaiting for approval.
I had to tweak the activity ID in activity.info and the name of the
activity itself to avoid possible conflicts.
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