g its code and announcing
releases. What is needed is people able and interested in running
Debian and testing the packages - and people helping create packages - for
Debian.
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I would very much appreciate being informed about it *in* *Debian* -
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changed the login screen. The choice of
> desktops is not made with a small icon at the top right of the login
> screen, not by an icon on the login itself.
I recommend you to report that issue to the distributor, since seemingly
they altered the code as part of their (re)distribution of
ext is not helping.
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> What would you guys suggest?
You would get rid of me if switching from current standards-protocol
mail and irc to walled-garden gitter. Not that I carry much weight.
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and find it odd when people are counting the number of derivatives.
Seems similar to your asking how many Worlds like eToys exist.
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>> https://unhosted.org
>>
>
> UnHosted is pretty interesting.
Unhosted is rather vague.
I find SoLiD quite interesting:
https://github.com/solid/solid-spec#overview
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s owner.
Underlying question is therefore if it matters that the device "in the
hands" of those kids is in their own control or not.
Only if it does not matter is it relevant to consider throwing away the
work done developing Sugar-atop-a-POSIX-system and instead invest only
in developi
PI too.
Not quite true: Wrappers exist to use the Google (PPAPI) plugin in
Mozilla (NPAPI) browsers: https://github.com/i-rinat/freshplayerplugin
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abble-legacy", but
beware that that package is *old* and *unsupported* and *insecure*!
Likewise, support for conventional tubes-based collaboration on other
systems - OLPC OS and Fedora - makes use of an outdated version of
telepathy Gabble, which potentially is highly insecure to use.
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> obscurity of someone trying to hack telepathy versus using a wider
> exploit against something like libjpeg or OpenSSL.
>
> But I wouldn't rely on obscurity as your sole protection.
The security flaws I suspect exist in legacy Gabble is indeed OpenSSL
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ting the activity as a Sugar-web-activity.
You bring Javascript into this conversation, not me. For my part, we
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activities fall behind in that transition.
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> Avoiding GTK + 2.x implies porting all 400 Sugar activities to GTK 3!
True - either that or ditch the activities evidently too badly
maintained to work well with modern Sugar.
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it running on new operating systems, or b) you care about old hardware,
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d how to install the
> codecs:
[...]
> I am certainly sure that everyone is bored to tears on this subject
> since I have mentioned it so many times already.
Did you "mention" it through the appropriate issue tracker?
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Quoting James Cameron (2015-12-26 10:07:11)
> On Sat, Dec 26, 2015 at 09:52:56AM +0530, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>> telepathy-gabble is where Tubes interface was dropped.
>
> Thanks!
>
> I wasn't sure it was, because Gabble is only used when operating with
> Jabber/XMPP
meeting too?
See details of our journey at https://couchdesign.dk/india/
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them _also_ copyright holders. *All* copyright holders should be
consulted when granting/changing licensing terms for a work.
Who did you consult, leading to the change in licensing that you did?
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not mean look in same
folder for a COPYING file but instead in many jurisdictions imply All
rights reserved which I suspect was not your intention :-)
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is to share my point more broadly - not
only with co-authors of that specific activity :-)
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the licensing of that file (e.g. GPL v2 or newer).
It is not the only inadequate licensing issue of that activity, but a
more prominent flaw. Most translation files are wrongly licensed too...
Hope that helps,
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files).
I agree with 1. but have not yet experienced 2. myself.
I would appreciate if you could provide steps to reproduce 2. on Debian,
so that I can help investigate.
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Quoting James Cameron (2015-05-26 10:03:00)
On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 08:49:41AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Quoting Martin Abente (2015-05-25 20:21:55)
So basically, there are 2 problems.
1. symlinks creation during ./setup.py --install (for installing the
mimetypes.xml file .svg icons
for the fix.)
* Squeak source code for version of Scratch 1.4 modified for XO /
Sugar
Scratch On!
Amos
Scratch Team
This now could be used to make a GPL Scratch activity.
Very exciting news!
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a LOT going on there.
I am wondering: Would Debian packaging of Sugar be of any relevancy
there?
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a SPARQL interface for the USDA data (and, if we move on the
collaboration that we've briefly discussed via email recently, also some
european databases I am looking at codifying):
http://semanticdiet.com/
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This is indeed quite exciting. Looking at your patch now and hopefully
able to release a working Hulahop for Debian.
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Hi Alvar,
On 11-11-16 at 06:44am, Alvar Maciel wrote:
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
Are you aware that Debian has official Debian packages for Sugar
0.84?
Yes I see the packages, but they are obsoletes for being used in the
schools. I try to use
?
Would be awesome if you could see the benefit of joining us in improving
those packages distributed globally instead of locally struggling with
jh-build.
Kind regards,
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1) Buy a non-locked computer
2) Copy everything over to that other machine
3) Exercise all your rights there
Et voilá, GPLv3 not violated.
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and
GPLv3, and passive ones like BSD-3-clause and Expat (a.k.a. MIT).
I have very much enjoyed following this discussion. Thanks for the well
reflected arguments on both sides!
Regards, and good luck with this process,
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Hi Andrea,
On Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 11:13:41AM +0200, Andrea Mayr wrote:
Two years ago i tried so hard to get it running (on debian), but
failed.
Did you ever try report to Debian the problems you encountered?
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path would be needed. The linked tweet notwithstanding, I've not seen
any documentation on such a migration.
You might want to consider sympa too: https://www.sympa.org/
It has strong support for PGP/MIME, and a nice default web interface.
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On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 04:13:42PM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
On 26.10.2010, at 11:14, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 09:56:05PM -0400, Luke Faraone wrote:
On 10/17/2010 07:15 PM, Tim McNamara wrote:
I'm assuming the infrastructure team are part of this list.
We
that as tarball and tag it, when ready for
consumption.
Thanks for allthe great work!
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On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 12:45:11PM -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
So the proposed 1.2.3-peru numbering scheme really is a 1.2.3 scheme
with an optional trailing taint hint?
[snip]
It probably makes better sense to clearly
-ASCII letters, +~ or whatever). Then use
simple C locale sort order, and leave it to local branches if they want
to use only letters or also leading and/or trailing digits.
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letters?
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Hi Gonzalo and others,
I suspect we talk past each others. But let's just leave it at that.
Good luck with the proposal!
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On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:25:57AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 00:51, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 09:05:53AM -0500, David Farning wrote:
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 5:27 AM, Simon Schampijer
si...@schampijer.de wrote:
Hi,
what
interested in having their activity packages accepted
into Debain.
He he - I do that typo too. I even mistype my own name as Joans :-)
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I have cced jonas for an official position.
Thanks for notifying me, David.
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convert it to simplejson?
Please beware that sugar-toolkit, and activities Browse, Chat, Read and
Speak, also use cjson.
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On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 02:35:48PM +0100, pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
Please beware that sugar-toolkit, and activities Browse, Chat, Read
and Speak, also use cjson.
sugar-toolkit according to the requires in the spec file
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 12:33:40PM -0400, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
there are no changes in this release, it is made just to bump the
release version number.
Thanks!
Please also tag the Git repository - and remember to push it :-)
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On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 02:11:38PM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote:
On 07/21/2010 12:14 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
I am currently releasing the 0.90 (a.k.a. 0.89.x) branch of Sugar for
Debian.
The parts sugar, sugar-artwork and sugar-toolkit have Git tags and
tarballs in the 0.89.x series
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As subject says, it seems sugar-datastore lack a Git tag v0.89.1
corresponding the recent tarball release.
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On Thu, Jul 01, 2010 at 03:14:38PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 16:49, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
Hi,
It seems that sugar-artwork Git is tagged as at version 0.84.2, but
the corresponding tarball is missing from
http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose
On Thu, Jul 01, 2010 at 05:15:31PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
On Thu, Jul 01, 2010 at 03:14:38PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 16:49, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
Hi,
It seems that sugar-artwork Git is tagged as at version 0.84.2,
but the corresponding
branch should be backported
to both 0.86 and 0.84.
Kind regards,
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assume) as that is targeted consumers (e.g. distributors
and hardcore users) who can only be expected to have a more limited
development environment and possible largely varying versions of tools.
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On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 02:01:52AM +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote:
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Jonas Smedegaard jo...@jones.dk wrote:
Hi Sayamindu (and others),
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 05:46:43PM +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote:
[Apologies for the cross-posting]
Thanks
with GIMP
without much luck. Any ideas?
Perhaps simply scan in greyscale rather than color?
Also, you might be interested in postprocessing with unpaper:
http://unpaper.berlios.de/
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of some) systems the transition has not completed yet
so that *other* parts of the chain fail if HAL is unavailable.
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perhaps be convinced to have a go at looking into this
specific problem that I have raised, and the related cleanup of the use
of Xulrunner which Mike have suggested? Now, before GSoC?
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look at this.
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On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 07:19:58PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 22:41, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
I am wondering: Who maintains Hulahop?
It's unmaintained as per
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Release/Modules#hulahop
:(
I can find
Hi Peter (and others),
On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 10:19:11AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 9:41 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
Hi Sugar developers,
I am wondering: Who maintains Hulahop?
The code currently works in Debian only because I leave alone a
hardcoded
On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 05:04:21PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 02:06, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
what I seek: A political decision from a release team, maintained at
some location easy to watch for changes.
Not sure if we have someone with spare cycles to do
On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 07:19:58PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 22:41, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
Hi Sugar developers,
I am wondering: Who maintains Hulahop?
It's unmaintained as per
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Release/Modules#hulahop
in
september 2009. Please respond.
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Please read below - and please cc him on responses (no need to cc me, I
am subscribed to this list):
On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 03:12:51PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote:
On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 02:23:24PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
On Mon, Apr 05
. :-)
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On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 12:35:20PM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote:
0.88 is the latest version of Sugar, consisting of Glucose, the base
system environment
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On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 05:24:08PM -0400, Walter Bender wrote:
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
Hi Walter (and others).
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 12:07:55PM -0400, Walter Bender wrote:
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 05:26:36PM -0400, Walter Bender wrote:
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
* Do newest release of Browse work on 0.84?
Checking ASLO, Browse 112 is marked as working with 0.86; Browse 108
is marked as working with 0.84.
Thanks
On Fri, Apr 02, 2010 at 10:21:50AM +1100, James Cameron wrote:
On Fri, Apr 02, 2010 at 12:34:26AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
I can go hunt down the info at ASLO for each and every chunk of code
related to Sugar in some way.
Erk.
What a strange concept. Is this ASLO database available
for all team-maintained Sugar-related packages are here:
http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=debian-olpc-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org
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On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 07:46:11PM +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 18:35, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 05:51:32PM +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
Ping!
Was that targeted me? If so, why?
Sorry, this as targeted to Simon about committing
on the thing you are passionate about, and then (as
secondary priority!) stretch that passion as far up- and/or downstream
as you feel like.
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Hi,
Please do remember to tag tarball releases in Git repositories. Those
tags are helpful for (some) distributors - like me :-)
Concretely Sugar 0.87.2 released december 21st lack a tag about that.
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patterns)
If what you mean simply is that Sugarlabs, OLPC and SoaS (and those
three alone) ought to share a single issue tracker, then sorry for my
rant - I'll keep out of such discussion.
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and similar are upstream, and
I suspect that's not the ones gaining interest in Sugar.
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On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 09:39:15PM -0500, Walter Bender wrote:
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:43:56PM -0500, Walter Bender wrote:
Summary: It would facilitate the packaging of Sugar activities into
RPMs and DEBs if there were
On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 03:56:40PM +, Daniel Drake wrote:
On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 16:04 +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 06:53:38AM -0500, Daniel Drake wrote:
== Source ==
http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-toolkit/sugar-toolkit-0.84.7.tar.bz2
complexity considerably except
when using CDBS, which is discouraged for other reasons by some
developers).
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On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 11:27:27AM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
On 01.12.2009, at 02:43, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 02:15:46AM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
On 29.11.2009, at 15:02, Sascha Silbe wrote:
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.86/Platform_Components
Speaking
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 02:48:18PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
On 01.12.2009, at 13:33, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 11:27:27AM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
On 01.12.2009, at 02:43, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 02:15:46AM +0100, Bert Freudenberg
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 03:45:08PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
On 01.12.2009, at 15:13, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 02:48:18PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
On 01.12.2009, at 13:33, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 11:27:27AM +0100, Bert Freudenberg
, and right now the newest
Git tag for sugar-datastore is v0.86.1
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On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 03:02:15PM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote:
(Repost due to subscribers-only policy on sugar-devel)
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 12:53:48PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Please note that comparing the list of missing dependencies
provided by Michael Stone with the components
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 05:37:44PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 03:02:15PM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote:
(Repost due to subscribers-only policy on sugar-devel)
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 12:53:48PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Please note that comparing the list
ASLO version handling, or whould we simply warn Sugar 0.82 users to
*not* use ASLO?
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On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 01:23:22PM -0500, Wade Brainerd wrote:
Anecdote: My XO ran out of space over Thanksgiving and automatically
deleted Browse at boot
,
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On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 12:18:51PM -0800, Peter Robinson wrote:
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 3:44 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 08:14:38AM +, Peter Robinson wrote:
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 12:10 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:
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