Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] Debian complaints

2016-12-18 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
g its code and announcing releases. What is needed is people able and interested in running Debian and testing the packages - and people helping create packages - for Debian. Regards, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Ubuntu

2016-07-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
e day stumble upon a bug in the Debian-derived Sugar packages I would very much appreciate being informed about it *in* *Debian* - please do *not* expect downstream developers to follow this list. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: ht

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Ubuntu

2016-07-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
changed the login screen. The choice of > desktops is not made with a small icon at the top right of the login > screen, not by an icon on the login itself. I recommend you to report that issue to the distributor, since seemingly they altered the code as part of their (re)distribution of

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [Pkg-sugar-devel] sugar is marked for autoremoval from testing

2016-06-24 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
ext is not helping. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: signature ___ Sugar-de

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [Pkg-sugar-devel] sugar is marked for autoremoval from testing

2016-06-24 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Discussion platform

2016-04-27 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
gt; There isn't too much activity on #sugar either. > > What would you guys suggest? You would get rid of me if switching from current standards-protocol mail and irc to walled-garden gitter. Not that I carry much weight. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkit

Re: [Sugar-devel] Active development

2016-04-18 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
perating system, and find it odd when people are counting the number of derivatives. Seems similar to your asking how many Worlds like eToys exist. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] as

Re: [Sugar-devel] Python is good - don't waste time (was Re: The future of Sugar on XO-1s)

2016-04-06 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
://owncloud.org >> https://unhosted.org >> > > UnHosted is pretty interesting. Unhosted is rather vague. I find SoLiD quite interesting: https://github.com/solid/solid-spec#overview - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Websi

Re: [Sugar-devel] Python is good - don't waste time (was Re: The future of Sugar on XO-1s)

2016-04-06 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
s owner. Underlying question is therefore if it matters that the device "in the hands" of those kids is in their own control or not. Only if it does not matter is it relevant to consider throwing away the work done developing Sugar-atop-a-POSIX-system and instead invest only in developi

Re: [Sugar-devel] Flash on Browse Activity - Ubuntu

2016-03-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
PI too. Not quite true: Wrappers exist to use the Google (PPAPI) plugin in Mozilla (NPAPI) browsers: https://github.com/i-rinat/freshplayerplugin - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freel

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Announcing] UNSTABLE 0.107.1 release (feature freeze)

2016-01-05 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
abble-legacy", but beware that that package is *old* and *unsupported* and *insecure*! Likewise, support for conventional tubes-based collaboration on other systems - OLPC OS and Fedora - makes use of an outdated version of telepathy Gabble, which potentially is highly insecure to use. - Jonas --

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Announcing] UNSTABLE 0.107.1 release (feature freeze)

2016-01-05 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
he > obscurity of someone trying to hack telepathy versus using a wider > exploit against something like libjpeg or OpenSSL. > > But I wouldn't rely on obscurity as your sole protection. The security flaws I suspect exist in legacy Gabble is indeed OpenSSL flaws. -- * Jonas Sme

Re: [Sugar-devel] Current status of GTK+ 3.x migration

2015-12-26 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
ting the activity as a Sugar-web-activity. You bring Javascript into this conversation, not me. For my part, we are talking about migration from GTK+ 2.x to GTK+ 3.x and how some activities fall behind in that transition. Kind regards, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist &am

Re: [Sugar-devel] Current status of GTK+ 3.x migration

2015-12-26 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
onversations like this one. > Avoiding GTK + 2.x implies porting all 400 Sugar activities to GTK 3! True - either that or ditch the activities evidently too badly maintained to work well with modern Sugar. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 4084

Re: [Sugar-devel] Current status of collaboration work

2015-12-26 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
y uses GStreamer and you care about having it running on new operating systems, or b) you care about old hardware, then you already need to migrate to GTK+ 3.x. Regards, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote

Re: [Sugar-devel] Current status of GTK+ 3.x migration

2015-12-26 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
d how to install the > codecs: [...] > I am certainly sure that everyone is bored to tears on this subject > since I have mentioned it so many times already. Did you "mention" it through the appropriate issue tracker? - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Interne

Re: [Sugar-devel] Current status of collaboration work

2015-12-25 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
an derivatives invcluding Ubuntu (so please to not relax about the very slow release process of Debian). Regards, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep

Re: [Sugar-devel] Current status of collaboration work

2015-12-25 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting James Cameron (2015-12-26 10:07:11) > On Sat, Dec 26, 2015 at 09:52:56AM +0530, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: >> telepathy-gabble is where Tubes interface was dropped. > > Thanks! > > I wasn't sure it was, because Gabble is only used when operating with > Jabber/XMPP

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [GSoC] query

2015-12-09 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
meeting too? See details of our journey at https://couchdesign.dk/india/ Kind regards, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc

Re: [Sugar-devel] XO-4 gerber files

2015-11-13 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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Re: [Sugar-devel] license of layout.py in Sugar Calculate activity

2015-07-27 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
them _also_ copyright holders. *All* copyright holders should be consulted when granting/changing licensing terms for a work. Who did you consult, leading to the change in licensing that you did? Kind regards, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45

[Sugar-devel] license of layout.py in Sugar Calculate activity

2015-06-18 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
not mean look in same folder for a COPYING file but instead in many jurisdictions imply All rights reserved which I suspect was not your intention :-) Kind regards, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me

Re: [Sugar-devel] license of layout.py in Sugar Calculate activity

2015-06-18 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
is to share my point more broadly - not only with co-authors of that specific activity :-) Regards, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc

Re: [Sugar-devel] license of layout.py in Sugar Calculate activity

2015-06-18 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
the licensing of that file (e.g. GPL v2 or newer). It is not the only inadequate licensing issue of that activity, but a more prominent flaw. Most translation files are wrongly licensed too... Hope that helps, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website

Re: [Sugar-devel] Bundlebuilder and mime-type related files

2015-05-26 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
the database files). I agree with 1. but have not yet experienced 2. myself. I would appreciate if you could provide steps to reproduce 2. on Debian, so that I can help investigate. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk

Re: [Sugar-devel] Bundlebuilder and mime-type related files

2015-05-26 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting James Cameron (2015-05-26 10:03:00) On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 08:49:41AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Quoting Martin Abente (2015-05-25 20:21:55) So basically, there are 2 problems. 1. symlinks creation during ./setup.py --install (for installing the mimetypes.xml file .svg icons

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Scratch source code version 1.4.0.6 released

2012-06-05 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
for the fix.) * Squeak source code for version of Scratch 1.4 modified for XO / Sugar Scratch On! Amos Scratch Team This now could be used to make a GPL Scratch activity. Very exciting news! - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Release] Calculate-40

2012-05-28 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] eduJAM! and 1-to-1 week: information and scholarships

2012-04-19 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
a LOT going on there. I am wondering: Would Debian packaging of Sugar be of any relevancy there? Regards, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2012-04-12

2012-04-14 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
is a SPARQL interface for the USDA data (and, if we move on the collaboration that we've briefly discussed via email recently, also some european databases I am looking at codifying): http://semanticdiet.com/ - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136

Re: [Sugar-devel] Browse and the move to WebKit

2012-02-17 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
it all work. This is indeed quite exciting. Looking at your patch now and hopefully able to release a working Hulahop for Debian. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing

Re: [Sugar-devel] error building etoys in a debian distro

2011-11-16 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi Alvar, On 11-11-16 at 06:44am, Alvar Maciel wrote: On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: Are you aware that Debian has official Debian packages for Sugar 0.84? Yes I see the packages, but they are obsoletes for being used in the schools. I try to use

Re: [Sugar-devel] error building etoys in a debian distro

2011-11-15 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
? Would be awesome if you could see the benefit of joining us in improving those packages distributed globally instead of locally struggling with jh-build. Kind regards, - Jonas Debian package maintainer for Sugar packages -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] GPL non compliance?

2011-04-26 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
about this detailed instruction: 1) Buy a non-locked computer 2) Copy everything over to that other machine 3) Exercise all your rights there Et voilá, GPLv3 not violated. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ANNOUNCE: Moving Sugar to GPLv3+

2011-04-25 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
and GPLv3, and passive ones like BSD-3-clause and Expat (a.k.a. MIT). I have very much enjoyed following this discussion. Thanks for the well reflected arguments on both sides! Regards, and good luck with this process, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45

Re: [Sugar-devel] tamtammini-57.xo, csound and ubuntu

2011-04-02 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi Andrea, On Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 11:13:41AM +0200, Andrea Mayr wrote: Two years ago i tried so hard to get it running (on debian), but failed. Did you ever try report to Debian the problems you encountered? - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45

Re: [Sugar-devel] DebXO 0.6 release

2010-12-11 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Mailman's admin and archive interfaces are horrible - suggest GroupServer.org

2010-10-26 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
, a mailman path would be needed. The linked tweet notwithstanding, I've not seen any documentation on such a migration. You might want to consider sympa too: https://www.sympa.org/ It has strong support for PGP/MIME, and a nice default web interface. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist

Re: [Sugar-devel] Mailman's admin and archive interfaces are horrible - suggest GroupServer.org

2010-10-26 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 04:13:42PM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 26.10.2010, at 11:14, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 09:56:05PM -0400, Luke Faraone wrote: On 10/17/2010 07:15 PM, Tim McNamara wrote: I'm assuming the infrastructure team are part of this list. We

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Browse-120

2010-10-25 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
that as tarball and tag it, when ready for consumption. Thanks for allthe great work! - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: Digital

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] stepping down as maintainer

2010-10-24 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
to me very recently. My intend is to care for the community, not only the person at the center of the various events. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private

Re: [Sugar-devel] Re-initiate Packaging Team

2010-10-21 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-base-0.90.1

2010-10-12 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
the git tag. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-07 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
- not only a non-versioned flag. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-07 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 12:45:11PM -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: So the proposed 1.2.3-peru numbering scheme really is a 1.2.3 scheme with an optional trailing taint hint? [snip] It probably makes better sense to clearly

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-04 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-ASCII letters, +~ or whatever). Then use simple C locale sort order, and leave it to local branches if they want to use only letters or also leading and/or trailing digits. Enjoy, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-04 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
algorithm when you permit both capital and lowercase letters? Regards, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-04 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi Gonzalo and others, I suspect we talk past each others. But let's just leave it at that. Good luck with the proposal! - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Policy for activities for downstream inclusion

2010-09-15 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:25:57AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 00:51, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 09:05:53AM -0500, David Farning wrote: On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 5:27 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Hi, what

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Policy for activities for downstream inclusion

2010-09-15 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
interested in having their activity packages accepted into Debain. He he - I do that typo too. I even mistype my own name as Joans :-) - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Policy for activities for downstream inclusion

2010-09-14 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
. I have cced jonas for an official position. Thanks for notifying me, David. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-presence-service-0.90.1

2010-08-25 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Sugar branches which release of sugar-presence-service to use (if at all)? Kind regards, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Fwd: Dependency on python-cjson - dead upstream]

2010-08-24 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
. Sascha, could you provide a patch to convert it to simplejson? Please beware that sugar-toolkit, and activities Browse, Chat, Read and Speak, also use cjson. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Fwd: Dependency on python-cjson - dead upstream]

2010-08-24 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 02:35:48PM +0100, pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: Please beware that sugar-toolkit, and activities Browse, Chat, Read and Speak, also use cjson. sugar-toolkit according to the requires in the spec file

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-presence-service-0.90.0

2010-08-16 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 12:33:40PM -0400, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: there are no changes in this release, it is made just to bump the release version number. Thanks! Please also tag the Git repository - and remember to push it :-) Kind regards, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist

Re: [Sugar-devel] No sugar-base or sugar-presence-service releases for 0.90 branch?

2010-08-05 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 02:11:38PM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 07/21/2010 12:14 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: I am currently releasing the 0.90 (a.k.a. 0.89.x) branch of Sugar for Debian. The parts sugar, sugar-artwork and sugar-toolkit have Git tags and tarballs in the 0.89.x series

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-0.84.19

2010-07-28 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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[Sugar-devel] No sugar-base or sugar-presence-service releases for 0.90 branch?

2010-07-21 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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[Sugar-devel] Git tag missing for sugar-datastore 0.89.1 tarball release

2010-07-21 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi, As subject says, it seems sugar-datastore lack a Git tag v0.89.1 corresponding the recent tarball release. Kind regards, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing

Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar-artwork 0.84 and 0.86 apparently out of sync

2010-07-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Thu, Jul 01, 2010 at 03:14:38PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 16:49, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: Hi, It seems that sugar-artwork Git is tagged as at version 0.84.2, but the corresponding tarball is missing from http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose

Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar-artwork 0.84 and 0.86 apparently out of sync

2010-07-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Thu, Jul 01, 2010 at 05:15:31PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Thu, Jul 01, 2010 at 03:14:38PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 16:49, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: Hi, It seems that sugar-artwork Git is tagged as at version 0.84.2, but the corresponding

[Sugar-devel] sugar-artwork 0.84 and 0.86 apparently out of sync

2010-06-25 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
branch should be backported to both 0.86 and 0.84. Kind regards, - Jonas [1] http://bugs.debian.org/583578 -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc

Re: [Sugar-devel] #1669 UNSP: Accessibility - keyboard

2010-06-24 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
assume) as that is targeted consumers (e.g. distributors and hardcore users) who can only be expected to have a more limited development environment and possible largely varying versions of tools. Regards, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar with a virtual (onscreen) keyboard

2010-06-23 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 02:01:52AM +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Jonas Smedegaard jo...@jones.dk wrote: Hi Sayamindu (and others), On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 05:46:43PM +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: [Apologies for the cross-posting] Thanks

Re: [Sugar-devel] De-yellowing page images?

2010-05-10 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
with GIMP without much luck. Any ideas? Perhaps simply scan in greyscale rather than color? Also, you might be interested in postprocessing with unpaper: http://unpaper.berlios.de/ Kind regards, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] use ConsoleKit instead of HAL for shutdown/reboot

2010-04-21 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
of some) systems the transition has not completed yet so that *other* parts of the chain fail if HAL is unavailable. Regards, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep

Re: [Sugar-devel] Who maintains Hulahop?!?

2010-04-17 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
perhaps be convinced to have a go at looking into this specific problem that I have raised, and the related cleanup of the use of Xulrunner which Mike have suggested? Now, before GSoC? Kind regards, and good luck with your related project! - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet

Re: [Sugar-devel] Who maintains Hulahop?!?

2010-04-17 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
if you (or anyone else!) could squeeze in a bit of time to look at this. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [Sugar-devel] Who maintains Hulahop?!?

2010-04-16 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi again, On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 07:19:58PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 22:41, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: I am wondering: Who maintains Hulahop? It's unmaintained as per http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Release/Modules#hulahop :( I can find

Re: [Sugar-devel] Who maintains Hulahop?!?

2010-04-08 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi Peter (and others), On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 10:19:11AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 9:41 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: Hi Sugar developers, I am wondering: Who maintains Hulahop? The code currently works in Debian only because I leave alone a hardcoded

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.88.0 Stable Release

2010-04-08 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 05:04:21PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 02:06, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: what I seek: A political decision from a release team, maintained at some location easy to watch for changes. Not sure if we have someone with spare cycles to do

Re: [Sugar-devel] Who maintains Hulahop?!?

2010-04-07 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 07:19:58PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 22:41, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: Hi Sugar developers, I am wondering: Who maintains Hulahop? It's unmaintained as per http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Release/Modules#hulahop

[Sugar-devel] Who maintains Hulahop?!?

2010-04-06 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
in september 2009. Please respond. Kind regards, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [Sugar-devel] xulrunner and rpath

2010-04-05 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
is kindly offering to help with this if necessary. Please read below - and please cc him on responses (no need to cc me, I am subscribed to this list): On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 03:12:51PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 02:23:24PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Mon, Apr 05

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.88.0 Stable Release

2010-04-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
. :-) Kind regards, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.88.0 Stable Release

2010-04-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 04:32:59PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 12:35:20PM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote: 0.88 is the latest version of Sugar, consisting of Glucose, the base system environment

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.88.0 Stable Release

2010-04-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.88.0 Stable Release

2010-04-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 05:24:08PM -0400, Walter Bender wrote: On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: Hi Walter (and others). On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 12:07:55PM -0400, Walter Bender wrote: On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.88.0 Stable Release

2010-04-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 05:26:36PM -0400, Walter Bender wrote: On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:  * Do newest release of Browse work on 0.84? Checking ASLO, Browse 112 is marked as working with 0.86; Browse 108 is marked as working with 0.84. Thanks

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.88.0 Stable Release

2010-04-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Fri, Apr 02, 2010 at 10:21:50AM +1100, James Cameron wrote: On Fri, Apr 02, 2010 at 12:34:26AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: I can go hunt down the info at ASLO for each and every chunk of code related to Sugar in some way. Erk. What a strange concept. Is this ASLO database available

Re: [Sugar-devel] Please tag tarball releases in git repository, e.g. Sugar 0.87.2

2010-01-12 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
for all team-maintained Sugar-related packages are here: http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=debian-olpc-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org Kind regards, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask

Re: [Sugar-devel] Please tag tarball releases in git repository, e.g. Sugar 0.87.2

2010-01-12 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 07:46:11PM +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 18:35, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 05:51:32PM +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Ping! Was that targeted me? If so, why? Sorry, this as targeted to Simon about committing

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Development

2009-12-30 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
on the thing you are passionate about, and then (as secondary priority!) stretch that passion as far up- and/or downstream as you feel like. Regards, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before

[Sugar-devel] Please tag tarball releases in git repository, e.g. Sugar 0.87.2

2009-12-30 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi, Please do remember to tag tarball releases in Git repositories. Those tags are helpful for (some) distributors - like me :-) Concretely Sugar 0.87.2 released december 21st lack a tag about that. Kind regards, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Development

2009-12-30 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
patterns) If what you mean simply is that Sugarlabs, OLPC and SoaS (and those three alone) ought to share a single issue tracker, then sorry for my rant - I'll keep out of such discussion. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Feature] activity.info enhancements

2009-12-11 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
and similar are upstream, and I suspect that's not the ones gaining interest in Sugar. Kind regards, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Feature] activity.info enhancements

2009-12-11 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 09:39:15PM -0500, Walter Bender wrote: On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:43:56PM -0500, Walter Bender wrote: Summary: It would facilitate the packaging of Sugar activities into RPMs and DEBs if there were

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-toolkit-0.84.7

2009-12-09 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 03:56:40PM +, Daniel Drake wrote: On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 16:04 +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 06:53:38AM -0500, Daniel Drake wrote: == Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-toolkit/sugar-toolkit-0.84.7.tar.bz2

Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar master will depend on simplejson again

2009-12-05 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
complexity considerably except when using CDBS, which is discouraged for other reasons by some developers). Kind regards, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Platform clarifications

2009-12-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 11:27:27AM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 01.12.2009, at 02:43, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 02:15:46AM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 29.11.2009, at 15:02, Sascha Silbe wrote: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.86/Platform_Components Speaking

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Platform clarifications

2009-12-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 02:48:18PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 01.12.2009, at 13:33, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 11:27:27AM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 01.12.2009, at 02:43, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 02:15:46AM +0100, Bert Freudenberg

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Platform clarifications

2009-12-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 03:45:08PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 01.12.2009, at 15:13, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 02:48:18PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 01.12.2009, at 13:33, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 11:27:27AM +0100, Bert Freudenberg

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-datastore-0.87.1

2009-12-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
, and right now the newest Git tag for sugar-datastore is v0.86.1 - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Platform clarifications

2009-11-30 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
if the information is wrong :-) - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Platform clarifications (was: Re: [Debian-olpc-devel] Missing deps for sucrose-0.86.)

2009-11-29 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 03:02:15PM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: (Repost due to subscribers-only policy on sugar-devel) On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 12:53:48PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Please note that comparing the list of missing dependencies provided by Michael Stone with the components

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Platform clarifications (was: Re: [Debian-olpc-devel] Missing deps for sucrose-0.86.)

2009-11-29 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 05:37:44PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 03:02:15PM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: (Repost due to subscribers-only policy on sugar-devel) On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 12:53:48PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Please note that comparing the list

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity Versioning - Dotted Scheme

2009-11-29 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
ASLO version handling, or whould we simply warn Sugar 0.82 users to *not* use ASLO? - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: Digital

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity Versioning - Dotted Scheme

2009-11-29 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 03:38:26PM -0500, Wade Brainerd wrote: On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 01:23:22PM -0500, Wade Brainerd wrote: Anecdote: My XO ran out of space over Thanksgiving and automatically deleted Browse at boot

Re: [Sugar-devel] Please test out Read 78 and 69

2009-11-29 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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Re: [Sugar-devel] adding 3G support to Sugar (was Re: Sugarizing an application)

2009-11-22 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 12:18:51PM -0800, Peter Robinson wrote: On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 3:44 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 08:14:38AM +, Peter Robinson wrote: On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 12:10 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: I think I've seen

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