[Sugar-devel] Fwd: Default 32-bit x86 arch for Fedora 12

2009-06-15 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi All, This was just posted to the fedora-olpc list as a FYI. I suggest posting any replies to that list so that the Fedora people see any responses. Peter -- Forwarded message -- From: Paul W. Frields Date: Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 12:19 AM Subject: Default 32-bit x86 arch for Fe

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-06-15

2009-06-15 Thread Elena of Valhalla
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:33 PM, NoiseEHC wrote: > The real deal is that Android will be pushed by all the carriers and ARM > vendors. In my humble opinion it will be the dominant phone OS in the > future with even more hardware support the good thing is that android is based on the linux kernel,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Physics Roadmap

2009-06-15 Thread Brian Jordan
Fantastic commits, Gary! :) On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 4:20 AM, Gary C Martin wrote: > Hi Asaf, > > On 14 Jun 2009, at 20:06, Asaf Paris Mandoki wrote: > >> >> I was slightly confused how to get the motor to work initially. I didn't >> realise it was a 'pin' like tool, I assumed it would just add rot

[Sugar-devel] Webkit in sugar Was Re: Epub and Read

2009-06-15 Thread Kushal Das
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > Nice, looking forward for it. I'm curious about the dependencies, > maybe in 0.86 we should add webkit to Sugar Platform. If we get pywebkitgtk in sugar then I can convert my blog client for wordpress into an activity I guess. How difficult is

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-06-15

2009-06-15 Thread Lucian Branescu
2009/6/15 NoiseEHC : > >> There is a project doing a bit of that, http://code.google.com/p/jythonroid/ >> Jython just got a new compiler though, it should be possible to retarget it. >> >> Google seems to love Python, maybe they will help? Perhaps OLPC could >> get them to at least say whether they

[Sugar-devel] FW: [IAEP] Texas Tech University work with XO/Sugar

2009-06-15 Thread John Tierney
Sean and Tomeu, Just a little update on this video. If you would like Rich to go ahead and get this ready for Sugar Labs use, he has offered to do so in early July. Let me know! JT > From: rich.r...@ttu.edu > To: jtis4...@hotmail.com > Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:49:41 -0500 > Subject: RE

Re: [Sugar-devel] Problem using sugar-update-control to update large (100+ MB) activity bundles

2009-06-15 Thread Bryan Berry
On Mon, 2009-06-15 at 22:47 +0200, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > On 06/15/09 16:37, Bryan Berry wrote: > > I want to use rsync but I need a mechanism that the users (kids) can > > initiate through a simple GUI, like the current Activity Update > > mechanism. > > Rsync's unique capability to transmit o

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-06-15

2009-06-15 Thread NoiseEHC
> There is a project doing a bit of that, http://code.google.com/p/jythonroid/ > Jython just got a new compiler though, it should be possible to retarget it. > > Google seems to love Python, maybe they will help? Perhaps OLPC could > get them to at least say whether they're working on it? > htt

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-06-15

2009-06-15 Thread Lucian Branescu
2009/6/15 NoiseEHC : > >> My major concern against porting to Android is that Java is a horrible >> language, even with the nice Android libs. Google have said that they >> will add more languages, though. >> > > Yes, java sucks. IMHO it does not matter though since mostly activities > consists of

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-06-15

2009-06-15 Thread NoiseEHC
> My major concern against porting to Android is that Java is a horrible > language, even with the nice Android libs. Google have said that they > will add more languages, though. > Yes, java sucks. IMHO it does not matter though since mostly activities consists of <1000 lines of code. > A mor

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-06-15

2009-06-15 Thread Lucian Branescu
My major concern against porting to Android is that Java is a horrible language, even with the nice Android libs. Google have said that they will add more languages, though. A more long term solution would be using PyPy, since it has significantly lower memory usage and better optimisation prospec

Re: [Sugar-devel] Problem using sugar-update-control to update large (100+ MB) activity bundles

2009-06-15 Thread Peter Robinson
>> I want to use rsync but I need a mechanism that the users (kids) can >> initiate through a simple GUI, like the current Activity Update >> mechanism. > > Rsync's unique capability to transmit only changed blocks within > large files requires using the real rsync:// protocol.  It won't > work ove

Re: [Sugar-devel] Problem using sugar-update-control to update large (100+ MB) activity bundles

2009-06-15 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On 06/15/09 16:37, Bryan Berry wrote: > I want to use rsync but I need a mechanism that the users (kids) can > initiate through a simple GUI, like the current Activity Update > mechanism. Rsync's unique capability to transmit only changed blocks within large files requires using the real rsync://

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-06-15

2009-06-15 Thread NoiseEHC
> Technologically the phone and the computer are quickly converging. > They are just coming at the problem from different points of view. > Phones focus on power consumption and size. Netbooks focus on screen > size and general use computing. > > If the new ARM technology is as good inside device

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [ANNOUNCE] Develop Sugar activities using Flash tools

2009-06-15 Thread David Farning
That is awesome. While SWF might not be the preferred format for many of us, there is a huge amount of educational content in that format. One of the keys to any community projects is creating the initial material which users find useful enough to use and improve:) This is a huge step in that di

[Sugar-devel] [Invitation] Sugar developers meeting @ Thu Jun 18 10am – 11am (sugar-dev e...@lists.sugarlabs.org)

2009-06-15 Thread Frederick Grose
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[Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Develop Sugar activities using Flash tools

2009-06-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, this work is nearing completion. You can read the last progress report along with instructions for trying it out here: http://blog.tomeuvizoso.net/2009/05/progress-on-sugar-activities-with-swf.html The next steps would be making sure that distros properly package Gnash and that activity auth

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-06-15

2009-06-15 Thread David Farning
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Walter Bender wrote: > ===Sugar Digest=== > > 1. It seems that once per month the computer vs. phone debate > reemerges. This time, http://edutechdebate.org/ has taken up the > theme. Wayan Vota posed the question: Mobile Phones: Better Learning > Tools than Comput

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugarizing of Web apps --- Thursday 18.06.09 - 14.00 (UTC) --- #sugar-meeting

2009-06-15 Thread Lucian Branescu
You can also have a look at my blog for more info: http://honeyweb.wordpress.com 2009/6/15 Simon Schampijer : > Hey, > > at this weeks sugar developer meeting we will welcome: > > *Lucian Branescu Mihaila* > > He is working on this years GSoC project to "Sugarize Web applications". > Lucian will p

[Sugar-devel] Sugarizing of Web apps --- Thursday 18.06.09 - 14.00 (UTC) --- #sugar-meeting

2009-06-15 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hey, at this weeks sugar developer meeting we will welcome: *Lucian Branescu Mihaila* He is working on this years GSoC project to "Sugarize Web applications". Lucian will present his project and we then see which are the open questions and how we want to move on with it. Designers are more tha

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Bookreader] Epub and Read

2009-06-15 Thread Samuel Klein
It's a low-traffic list. http://groups.google.com/group/openpub On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Rebecca Hargrave Malamud wrote: > Great! > > I just got back from an Open Library developers meeting last week, > but did not get the opportunity to talk to Peter (I attended the > second week of t

[Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-06-15

2009-06-15 Thread Walter Bender
===Sugar Digest=== 1. It seems that once per month the computer vs. phone debate reemerges. This time, http://edutechdebate.org/ has taken up the theme. Wayan Vota posed the question: Mobile Phones: Better Learning Tools than Computers? Michael Trucano takes the affirmative position in his essay,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Problem using sugar-update-control to update large (100+ MB) activity bundles

2009-06-15 Thread Bryan Berry
On Mon, 2009-06-15 at 10:18 -0400, Ton van Overbeek wrote: > On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Bryan Berry wrote: > > > I would like to know if the newer version of sugar-control-update > > http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/sugar-update-control/repos/mainline/blobs/master/src/model.py > > only tra

Re: [Sugar-devel] Problem using sugar-update-control to update large (100+ MB) activity bundles

2009-06-15 Thread Ton van Overbeek
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Bryan Berry wrote: > I would like to know if the newer version of sugar-control-update > http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/sugar-update-control/repos/mainline/blobs/master/src/model.py > only transfers the differences between the new and old bundles, thus making

[Sugar-devel] Problem using sugar-update-control to update large (100+ MB) activity bundles

2009-06-15 Thread Bryan Berry
We soon need to roll out updated version of Nepal's custom suite of activities, E-Paath. The updated bundle weighs in at a whopping 180 MB zipped and 300 MB unzipped. We have found it impractical to use the sugar-update-control mechanism to update the bundle. While E-Paath is large, the updated bun

Re: [Sugar-devel] Epub and Read

2009-06-15 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 01:12, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: >> Hi all, >> I have been working on getting Epub support into Read, and here is the >> first screenshot: >> http://dev.laptop.org/~sayamindu/screenshot_read_epub.png >> >> It is not base

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Bookreader] Epub and Read

2009-06-15 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Samuel Klein wrote: > Sayamindu - I met Peter Brantley last week, who is actively working > with others towards a revised OPDS spec.  They are considering local > library v. global library issues, for which an offline OLPC classroom > provides a good example. > Ye

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Bookreader] Epub and Read

2009-06-15 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
Hi Rebecca, On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Rebecca Hargrave Malamud wrote: > Hello, Sayamindu - > > I am working with a group in Oregon to create bundles of the IACL books for > the OLPC XO. I am looking for some guidance on what the best format is to > provide the books in since it looks like

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Paint-27

2009-06-15 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Url: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4082 Release notes: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4082#addon-advanced Reviewer comments: Trusted activity Sugar Labs Activities http://activities.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-deve

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Server-devel] Meshnode product...

2009-06-15 Thread Sean DALY
Thanks for that Sameer I'm sure that color scheme isn't accidental :-) They say it's Debian-based Simon - Do you think it would be useful or interesting to borrow one of these for LinuxTag? Could you or someone on the sugar-devel team possibly contact them and see if they are coming, if so (and

Re: [Sugar-devel] Epub and Read

2009-06-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 01:12, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: > Hi all, > I have been working on getting Epub support into Read, and here is the > first screenshot: > http://dev.laptop.org/~sayamindu/screenshot_read_epub.png > > It is not based on Evince, but on webkit (I had tried to implement a > back

Re: [Sugar-devel] meshing XOs with netbooks (WAS: Re: [Bugs] #79 NORM: SOAS should mesh network when possible)

2009-06-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 02:32, Gary C Martin wrote: > Hi Tomeu, > > On 10 Jun 2009, at 10:18, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > >> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 03:16, Andrés Ambrois >> wrote: >>> >>> On Tuesday 09 June 2009 10:07:19 pm Martin Dengler wrote: On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 01:46:07AM +0100, Gary C