[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Read ETexts-16

2009-08-12 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4035 Sugar Platform: from 0.82 to 0.86 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/version/29210 Release notes: Someone was confused that text to speech with highlighting does not work with the Help text (the page that begins

[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Get Internet Archive Books-3

2009-08-12 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4194 Sugar Platform: from 0.82 to 0.86 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/version/29209 Release notes: This fixes a bug that, if you attempted to download a book in B/W PDF format (which the Internet Archive does not

Re: [Sugar-devel] code review guidelines updated

2009-08-12 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 08/11/2009 07:27 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Hi, have tried to clarify and explain the rationale behind the code review process in the wiki: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Code_Review http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Code_guidelines Would welcome any comments.

Re: [Sugar-devel] code review guidelines updated

2009-08-12 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 01:58, Jim Simmonsnices...@gmail.com wrote: Tomeu, When Aleksey made changes to Read Etexts to support the gstreamer espeak plugin he had written he made a clone of the Activity in gitorious, and later this clone was merged back into the mainline.  I thought this

Re: [Sugar-devel] Design help needed for web applications within Sugar

2009-08-12 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 22:02, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 11 Aug 2009, at 18:25, Eben Eliason wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Lucian Branesculucian.brane...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/8/11 Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de: On 08/11/2009 12:14 PM, Lucian Branescu

[Sugar-devel] modifying and reloading python code (was Re: Design help needed for web applications within Sugar)

2009-08-12 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:45, Tomeu Vizosoto...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 22:02, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: If View Source makes it to Edit Source, it could be reasonable to expect that if you do modify and then close the source editor you would raise an

Re: [Sugar-devel] New SoaS-on-XO-1 build done: soasxo51

2009-08-12 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:45:22AM +0530, Joshua N Pritikin wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 03:01:16AM +, Martin Dengler wrote: soasxo51.tree.tar.lzma - for hacking When I boot this build, it seems to go okay. The screen switches to white, but sugar never starts. I'd start by logging

Re: [Sugar-devel] WatchMe-1, a VNC activity

2009-08-12 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Announcing WatchMe-1, an activity that brings VNC to Sugar. How to try it: On two Sugar instances: 1. su -c yum install gtk-vnc-python (or equivalent for

[Sugar-devel] Activity toolbar redesign: What to do with 'simple' activities?

2009-08-12 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, I just ported the hello world example to the new toolbar design [1]. I remember that once Gary pointed out, that simple activities will look 'empty' when we move them to the new design (screenshot attached), Chat would be a famous case. Most of the activities does have options, though.

[Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Re: #1157 HIGH: Show which jabber server to which you are connected

2009-08-12 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Any opinions? Every other deployer thinks this is a good idea? Regards, Tomeu On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 01:38, SugarLabs Bugsbugtracker-nore...@sugarlabs.org wrote: #1157: Show which jabber server to which you are connected

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Re: #1157 HIGH: Show which jabber server to which you are connected

2009-08-12 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/8/12 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org: Any opinions? Every other deployer thinks this is a good idea? Yes. OLPC deployments have historically had this tool in the form of olpc-netstatus which is indeed very useful. Sugar should provide an equivalent. I wouldn't say it's important to expose

Re: [Sugar-devel] New SoaS-on-XO-1 build done: soasxo51

2009-08-12 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:42:23AM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:45:22AM +0530, Joshua N Pritikin wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 03:01:16AM +, Martin Dengler wrote: soasxo51.tree.tar.lzma - for hacking When I boot this build, it seems to go okay. The screen

Re: [Sugar-devel] Results of today's Jabber Testing

2009-08-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:57 AM, Tomeu Vizosoto...@sugarlabs.org wrote: I would also like to know if when things go wrong, you have any mentions of timeouts in the telepathy-gabble.log file. As a more general strategy, we could compare telepathy-gabble.log between the machines that work and

[Sugar-devel] Karma specifications

2009-08-12 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
Hi, as discussed during the IRC meeting earlier today I've started collecting some thoughts on Karma lesson specifications (or rather recommendations). You can find them at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Karma/Specifications As always, let me know what you think:-) Cheers, Christoph --

Re: [Sugar-devel] How to not make a window?

2009-08-12 Thread Albert Cahalan
Benjamin M. Schwartz writes: I am trying to create a sugar activity that wraps a simple X application. Have you tried using the sugarize code? If it fails, let me know how. You really shouldn't need Python to wrap a simple X application. ___

Re: [Sugar-devel] WatchMe-1, a VNC activity

2009-08-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartzbmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: Announcing WatchMe-1, an activity that brings VNC to Sugar. Fantastic! Help needed: 5. More advanced functionality?  Remote screenshots? Sound? Unix sockets? XS reflectors? We are going to have to figure

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity toolbar redesign: What to do with 'simple' activities?

2009-08-12 Thread Lucian Branescu
Would it be possible to offer a more compact design, with a single bar, but with the new API? 2009/8/12 Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de: Hi, I just ported the hello world example to the new toolbar design [1]. I remember that once Gary pointed out, that simple activities will look

Re: [Sugar-devel] Deployment feedback braindump

2009-08-12 Thread Albert Cahalan
S Page writes: On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Daniel Drakedsd at laptop.org wrote: adding an interactivity component that would be impossible to have when working with paper-based exercise books. And impossible with PDFs. No way. PDFs can be interactive in many ways. First of all, a PDF

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Re: #1157 HIGH: Show which jabber server to which you are connected

2009-08-12 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Wed, 12-08-2009 a las 16:31 +0545, Daniel Drake escribió: 2009/8/12 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org: Any opinions? Every other deployer thinks this is a good idea? Yes. OLPC deployments have historically had this tool in the form of olpc-netstatus which is indeed very useful. Sugar

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] New activity: Arithmetic.

2009-08-12 Thread Albert Cahalan
First of all, it's wonderful to finally see this activity. Plenty of words in the UI are not easy, starting with difficulty. :-) There doesn't seem to be any scratch space to work in, but I'm just looking at the screen shot. Can the user lay out a long division in the standard form? Can the user

Re: [Sugar-devel] Deployment feedback braindump

2009-08-12 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Wed, 12-08-2009 a las 07:22 -0400, Albert Cahalan escribió: Finally, you can put JavaScript in a PDF. I'm not sure if any of the free software viewers can handle this yet. In theory you can have all sorts of animations. It's kind of like flash. Yes, and it's kind of like SVG, too. And

Re: [Sugar-devel] Deployment feedback braindump

2009-08-12 Thread Lucian Branescu
Adobe apparently loves vectors. JavaScript-in-PDF is mostly a joke and a big security risk. It's not something to be relied upon. Forms are about as much interaction as PDF get without becoming dangerous or moot. 2009/8/12 Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org: El Wed, 12-08-2009 a las 07:22

Re: [Sugar-devel] modifying and reloading python code (was Re: Design help needed for web applications within Sugar)

2009-08-12 Thread Walter Bender
I tried using xreload.py when I was struggling with Rainbow interactions in Turtle Art (you may recall that I let users load code they modify in Pippy). Never did get it to work as advertised, but never figured out the root cause of my problem either. Most likely my doing something stupid.

[Sugar-devel] Interactive Ebooks [Re: Deployment feedback braindump]

2009-08-12 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
Hi, On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Albert Cahalanacaha...@gmail.com wrote: S Page writes: On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Daniel Drakedsd at laptop.org wrote: adding an interactivity component that would be impossible to have when working with paper-based exercise books. And impossible

Re: [Sugar-devel] New SoaS-on-XO-1 build done: soasxo51

2009-08-12 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 04:17:22PM +0530, Joshua N Pritikin wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:42:23AM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:45:22AM +0530, Joshua N Pritikin wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 03:01:16AM +, Martin Dengler wrote: soasxo51.tree.tar.lzma -

Re: [Sugar-devel] Results of today's Jabber Testing

2009-08-12 Thread Dave Bauer
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Caroline Meekscarol...@solutiongrove.com wrote: I worked with the RIT contingent and Dave Farning today to do some collaboration testing. We tested with 8 computers on a

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity toolbar redesign: What to do with 'simple' activities?

2009-08-12 Thread Eben Eliason
Last we discussed this, I think we decided that activities which don't modify the toolbars in any way should have a single toolbar containing all of the activity toolbar controls: title entry, sharing, keep, etc. Only if the activity wanted to modify the toolbars would the activity specific stuff

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity toolbar redesign: What to do with 'simple' activities?

2009-08-12 Thread Christian Marc Schmidt
Yes, I agree. Unless everyone is on the same page, it may make sense to schedule a meeting this weekend, also to go over proposals for list view in Neighborhood and to discuss groups. What does everyone think? Christian On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Eben Eliason eben.elia...@gmail.comwrote:

Re: [Sugar-devel] WatchMe-1, a VNC activity

2009-08-12 Thread James Cameron
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 07:15:01AM -0400, Martin Langhoff wrote: - can we use multicast frames... [...] There are two multicast VNC implementations that I'm aware of that have a permissive license ... http://www2.in.tum.de/~ziewer/multicastvnc/ http://teleteaching.uni-trier.de/ The latter

[Sugar-devel] Deployment Team meeting on Wednesday August 19th - 14:00 UTC

2009-08-12 Thread Pilar Saenz
Hi, It's time to revive Deployment Team. Next meeting Wednesday August 19th - at 14 UTC (9 EST) on irc.freenode.net (channel: #sugar-meeting). Please add to the agenda below and please join in with your ideas. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Deployment_Team/Meetings/Minutes/2009-08-19 best

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Moodle]About the has_capability() function

2009-08-12 Thread Vamsi Krishna Davuluri
Hi Martin, We've done exactly as you've said. I should release both Sugar Print And Moodle Print in a couple of hours. There's an annoying bug about selecting page ranges when generating a pdf/ or printing it that I'm trying to fix. And I realise I forgot adding a footer for log out to moodle

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] tool accelerator keys add objects to the world

2009-08-12 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Martin, On 12 Aug 2009, at 01:27, Martin Dengler wrote: Make it easy to add lots of objects to the world quickly by drawing one shape, then pressing the key of the shape tool a few times to add a few copies of that object to the tool. Erase objects by hovering and pressing E (the erase

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] tool accelerator keys add objects to the world

2009-08-12 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 02:43:15PM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: Hi Martin, On 12 Aug 2009, at 01:27, Martin Dengler wrote: Make it easy to add lots of objects to the world quickly by drawing one shape, then pressing the key of the shape tool a few times to add a few copies of that object to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Results of today's Jabber Testing

2009-08-12 Thread Dave Bauer
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Dave Bauer d...@solutiongrove.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Caroline Meekscarol...@solutiongrove.com wrote: I worked with the RIT contingent and Dave Farning

Re: [Sugar-devel] Deployment feedback braindump

2009-08-12 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Wed, 12-08-2009 a las 13:28 +0100, Lucian Branescu escribió: Adobe apparently loves vectors. And monopolies. JavaScript-in-PDF is mostly a joke and a big security risk. It's not something to be relied upon. It might be useless, but I don't see why it should be more risky than Javascript

Re: [Sugar-devel] Results of today's Jabber Testing

2009-08-12 Thread David Farning
Thanks for the advice. We will be going to do some more tests this morning. I think we will spend a while learning about the tools which you and martin mentioned then run another debug session. david On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Dave Bauerd...@solutiongrove.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 11,

Re: [Sugar-devel] WatchMe-1, a VNC activity

2009-08-12 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Martin Langhoff wrote: Either way, this is going to be a nasty RF hog. How do we handle this hogginess? RealVNC's vncviewer seems to have a fairly smart adaptive congestion control, stepping down the frequency of updates as available bandwidth decreases. It doesn't solve the problem, but it

Re: [Sugar-devel] Candidate paper cut bugs for a new 8.2.x release?

2009-08-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
Generally agree that it is important... however. On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Richard A. Smithrich...@laptop.org wrote: You have to QA the whole system regardless of what change you make so really it doesn't increase the QA that much anyway. No, and that is an explicit goal: keep the

Re: [Sugar-devel] Deployment feedback braindump

2009-08-12 Thread Lucian Branescu
2009/8/12 Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org: El Wed, 12-08-2009 a las 13:28 +0100, Lucian Branescu escribió: Adobe apparently loves vectors. And monopolies. That too :) But really, they're obsessed with vectors. JavaScript-in-PDF is mostly a joke and a big security risk. It's not

Re: [Sugar-devel] How to not make a window?

2009-08-12 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Albert Cahalan wrote: Benjamin M. Schwartz writes: I am trying to create a sugar activity that wraps a simple X application. Have you tried using the sugarize code? If it fails, let me know how. You really shouldn't need Python to wrap a simple X application. Good point. I'd forgotten

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity toolbar redesign: What to do with 'simple' activities?

2009-08-12 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Simon, On 12 Aug 2009, at 11:13, Simon Schampijer wrote: Hi, I just ported the hello world example to the new toolbar design [1]. I remember that once Gary pointed out, that simple activities will look 'empty' when we move them to the new design (screenshot attached), Chat would

Re: [Sugar-devel] Deployment feedback braindump

2009-08-12 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Wed, 12-08-2009 a las 15:16 +0100, Lucian Branescu escribió: In any case, PDF is a good presentation format. Why make it significantly more complex for small-to-none improvements to its main purpose? Agreed. And, btw, as people are gradually loosing the habit of printing on paper, document

[Sugar-devel] Faster Multicast [was Re: WatchMe-1, a VNC activity]

2009-08-12 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Martin Langhoff wrote: - can we use multicast frames... and get the APs speeds bumped up to do a fast multicast so as to not use up all the airtime? This would be great... and I just realized that it might also be tremendously beneficial for Telepathy-Salut. Salut uses multicast for two

Re: [Sugar-devel] Deployment feedback braindump

2009-08-12 Thread Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Bernie Innocentiber...@codewiz.org wrote: El Wed, 12-08-2009 a las 15:16 +0100, Lucian Branescu escribió: In any case, PDF is a good presentation format. Why make it significantly more complex for small-to-none improvements to its main purpose? Agreed. And,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Deployment feedback braindump

2009-08-12 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Albert, On 12 Aug 2009, at 12:22, Albert Cahalan wrote: S Page writes: On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Daniel Drakedsd at laptop.org wrote: adding an interactivity component that would be impossible to have when working with paper-based exercise books. And impossible with PDFs.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity toolbar redesign: What to do with 'simple' activities?

2009-08-12 Thread Eben Eliason
I would be willing to set some time aside for that. Early mornings are best for me. Eben On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Christian Marc Schmidtchristianm...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I agree. Unless everyone is on the same page, it may make sense to schedule a meeting this weekend, also to go

Re: [Sugar-devel] Deployment feedback braindump

2009-08-12 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Wed, 12-08-2009 a las 09:52 -0500, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero escribió: I think few people will care about PDF 10 years from now -- maybe just 5 years from now. With or without Javascript ;-). i wish i was so optimistic but in some parts of the world the time frame for this change

Re: [Sugar-devel] Interactive Ebooks [Re: Deployment feedback braindump]

2009-08-12 Thread Samuel Klein
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Sayamindu Dasguptasayami...@gmail.com wrote: First of all, a PDF is pretty much just well-behaved postscript. You can embed that in more postscript. The user can thus scribble all over the document. In this context, I have been playing around with Read +

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity toolbar redesign: What to do with 'simple' activities?

2009-08-12 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 08/12/2009 03:15 PM, Eben Eliason wrote: Last we discussed this, I think we decided that activities which don't modify the toolbars in any way should have a single toolbar containing all of the activity toolbar controls: title entry, sharing, keep, etc. Only if the activity wanted to modify

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity toolbar redesign: What to do with 'simple' activities?

2009-08-12 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 08/12/2009 04:34 PM, Gary C Martin wrote: Hi Simon, On 12 Aug 2009, at 11:13, Simon Schampijer wrote: Hi, I just ported the hello world example to the new toolbar design [1]. I remember that once Gary pointed out, that simple activities will look 'empty' when we move them to the new

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity toolbar redesign: What to do with 'simple' activities?

2009-08-12 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 08/12/2009 03:24 PM, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote: Yes, I agree. Unless everyone is on the same page, it may make sense to schedule a meeting this weekend, also to go over proposals for list view in Neighborhood and to discuss groups. What does everyone think? Christian We need quite

Re: [Sugar-devel] New Activities on a.sl.o was Sugar Digest 2009-08-11

2009-08-12 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Yes, the next week. Gonzalo On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Caroline Meeks solutiongr...@gmail.comwrote: ===In the community=== 3. Gonzalo Odiard reported on a successful [http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc-sur/2009-August/004099.html Sugar Day Argentina on the Sur list.] Gonzalo also

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity toolbar redesign: What to do with 'simple' activities?

2009-08-12 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Somon, On 12 Aug 2009, at 16:52, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 08/12/2009 04:34 PM, Gary C Martin wrote: I'll sit and stare at the HelloWorld toolbar screenshot, contemplating it's emptiness and the eternal void, perhaps I be enlightened, but I think this may be the price we have to pay

[Sugar-devel] Meeting

2009-08-12 Thread usmpadow padow
Hi, I was invited to participate on a meeting by tomeu from the #sugar chatroom... He said it would be this weekend, I would like to participate, but I live in a very different timezone, I do stay up late though... what time, what day will the meeting be? I'll see if I can participate. By the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Sugar-news] Sugar Digest 2009-08-11

2009-08-12 Thread Sean DALY
IMHO, close study of small deployments makes them incredibly useful to all teachers and Learners. The observations and take-aways need to be triaged of course, starting with what can/should be done by Sugar Labs, but I am convinced many learnings will benefit large deployments. Until reliable

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity toolbar redesign: What to do with 'simple' activities?

2009-08-12 Thread Walter Bender
A rude hack for simple activities (See attached). -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org attachment: hello-world-toolbar-rude-hack.png___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] Faster Multicast [was Re: WatchMe-1, a VNC activity]

2009-08-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartzbmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: I don't know how to test this, but I think there's a chance it could be a big win.  Of course, in situations where the mDNS presence information itself is overloading the network, there's not much we can do.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity toolbar redesign: What to do with 'simple' activities?

2009-08-12 Thread Christian Marc Schmidt
Great--should we plan on holding a design meeting this Sunday? I can be available after 10am EST (2pm UTC). Christian On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.dewrote: On 08/12/2009 03:24 PM, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote: Yes, I agree. Unless everyone is on the

[Sugar-devel] Bundling libraries, RPMs? (was Re: WatchMe-1, a VNC activity)

2009-08-12 Thread Brian Jordan
On Aug 12, 2009, at 12:25 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: Indeed. The #1 thing to do, IMHO, is to get rid of the yum install requirement. In the short term, the only way to do that is to bundle gtk-vnc and gtk-vnc-python into the .xo, which is fine... I'm just

Re: [Sugar-devel] Bundling libraries, RPMs? (was Re: WatchMe-1, a VNC activity)

2009-08-12 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Brian Jordan wrote: On Aug 12, 2009, at 12:25 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: Indeed. The #1 thing to do, IMHO, is to get rid of the yum install requirement. In the short term, the only way to do that is to bundle gtk-vnc and gtk-vnc-python into the .xo, which

Re: [Sugar-devel] Faster Multicast [was Re: WatchMe-1, a VNC activity]

2009-08-12 Thread david
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartzbmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: I don't know how to test this, but I think there's a chance it could be a big win.  Of course, in situations where the mDNS presence information itself is

Re: [Sugar-devel] How to not make a window?

2009-08-12 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartzbmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: Albert Cahalan wrote: Benjamin M. Schwartz writes: I am trying to create a sugar activity that wraps a simple X application. Have you tried using the sugarize code? If it fails, let me know how. You

Re: [Sugar-devel] How to not make a window?

2009-08-12 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 19:42, Albert Cahalanacaha...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartzbmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: Albert Cahalan wrote: Benjamin M. Schwartz writes: I am trying to create a sugar activity that wraps a simple X application. Have

Re: [Sugar-devel] Deployment feedback braindump

2009-08-12 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Lucian Branesculucian.brane...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/8/12 Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org: El Wed, 12-08-2009 a las 13:28 +0100, Lucian Branescu escribió: JavaScript-in-PDF is mostly a joke and a big security risk. It's not something to be relied upon.

[Sugar-devel] discovering open clip art library

2009-08-12 Thread Bryan Berry
I am embarrassed to say that I wasn't aware that the Open ClipArt Library existed. I imagine they have similar goals and needs for a content management system if theirs doesn't already satisfy them. http://www.openclipart.org http://www.openclipart.org/wiki/Document_Management_System -- Bryan

Re: [Sugar-devel] Deployment feedback braindump

2009-08-12 Thread Lucian Branescu
2009/8/12 Albert Cahalan acaha...@gmail.com: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Lucian Branesculucian.brane...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/8/12 Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org: El Wed, 12-08-2009 a las 13:28 +0100, Lucian Branescu escribió: JavaScript-in-PDF is mostly a joke and a big security

[Sugar-devel] Wed Jabber Testing

2009-08-12 Thread Caroline Meeks
I had quite limited time to test today but here is what we did. I will call the two jabber servers XS1 and XS2. XS1 responded to jabber.sugarlabs.org for the last few months. It had over 2000 jabber users. XS2 was created a few weeks ago and had barely been used. It also has Gadget installed.

[Sugar-devel] sunjammer: server relocation, Aug 12, 21:30 EDT

2009-08-12 Thread Bernie Innocenti
The FSF sysadmins are going to relocate our virtual machine Sunjammer today in the evening. The new host has faster processors, twice as much memory, a faster RAID1 array and generally better hardware. The downtime is projected to last 15-30 minutes, but it may last longer in case of unexpected

[Sugar-devel] Outage notifications via identi.ca

2009-08-12 Thread Bernie Innocenti
To receive notifications for scheduled maintenance to our servers and other service outages, you can get an account at identi.ca and subscribe to this group: http://identi.ca/group/sugarlabsstatus/ It's supposed to be a very low-traffic channel, to be used only by humans to communicate

[Sugar-devel] List moderation, or lack thereof

2009-08-12 Thread Bernie Innocenti
The lists iaep@ and sugar-devel@ get far too much spam and moderating them effectively would take too much time. Until when I'll find some time to install and properly configure SpamAssassin on our incoming email pipe, posts addressed to these lists that would normally be held for moderation will

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Re: #1157 HIGH: Show which jabber server to which you are connected

2009-08-12 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/8/12 Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org: Are you the current maintainer of olpc-utils?  I used to be, but now I don't feel like I have enough spare cycles to work on it. I think so, but I don't have the time either. However I get the feeling that olpc-utils is already XO-specific, or very