[Sugar-devel] [Karma] updated project roadmaps on wiki and in launchpad

2009-09-08 Thread Bryan Berry
Hey guys, here are my suggestions for the roadmaps http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Karma#Roadmaps and on launchpad https://launchpad.net/karma/trunk These are just my ideas and they are up for discussion I haven't put the features in as blueprints because I actually found them a bit confusing

Re: [Sugar-devel] [project ideas] - port of sugar to pyjamas.

2009-09-08 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 00:09, Luke Kenneth Casson Leightonl...@lkcl.net wrote: folks, hi, yesterday i thought i'd investigate doing a port of sugar to pyjamas[-desktop].  reading around i saw the project ideas page, and filled in a section:

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Differentiate open tabs

2009-09-08 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 00:37, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de wrote: Hi, we have an issue with our current tabs design (Browse and Terminal). It is impossible to differentiate two open tabs - to find out which is the current active one. This works for more then two, but is not ideal imho.

[Sugar-devel] [Karma] i18n options

2009-09-08 Thread Bryan Berry
I am procrastinating learning object-oriented javascript by thinking about different i18n options for karma Here are just a few of the key requirements for i18n in karma 1. Support inline text in the html divThis text should be captured/div 2. Support in code translation

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Differentiate open tabs

2009-09-08 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/08/2009 10:10 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 00:37, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de wrote: Hi, we have an issue with our current tabs design (Browse and Terminal). It is impossible to differentiate two open tabs - to find out which is the current active one. This

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Server-devel] splitting large xol

2009-09-08 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Daniel Draked...@laptop.org wrote: 63mb should be fine. Of course, it will eat 63mb on every XO that it Perhaps someone's hit issues when uncompressing it -- perhaps on an older build? I'd recommend making the large bundle and testing that it unpacks without

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Image Viewer 11

2009-09-08 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
Hello, I have just released Image Viewer version 11, for the upcoming Sucrose 0.86. Changes: * Switch to new toolbar system * Show transfer progress * Updated translations for Arabic, Dutch, French, Italian, Japanese * New languages * Do not keep on (re)loading the file continuously * Misc.

[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Image Viewer-11

2009-09-08 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4032 Sugar Platform: from 0.86 to 0.86 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/version/29237 Release notes: * Switch to new toolbar system * Show transfer progress * Updated translations for Arabic, Dutch, French,

[Sugar-devel] [Karma] audio does play for me in chromium

2009-09-08 Thread Bryan Berry
at least in chromium 4.0.205.0 (Ubuntu build 25032) this is good new as both u and i thought chromium wouldn't support ogg any time soon -- Bryan W. Berry Technology Director OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list

[Sugar-devel] [Feature Freeze] Request for exception for Turtle Art

2009-09-08 Thread Walter Bender
I updated Turtle Art to use the new toolbars (thanks for all the help, Simon) for which I would like an exception to the feature freeze. The source tarball is: http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/TurtleArt/TurtleArt-64.tar.bz2 Thank you fr your consideration. -walter --

[Sugar-devel] Testing, please ignore

2009-09-08 Thread Bernie Innocenti
I moved the hos...@sugarlabs.org alias to Google Apps so it keeps working even if sunjammer goes down. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list

Re: [Sugar-devel] DB module for moodle in XS server serously coool and needed addittion

2009-09-08 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 2:56 AM, David Van Asschedvanass...@gmail.com wrote: To create a easy reference for linux commands, the best way was to use the Moodle database module. You can create quite elaborate databases which are then easily edited and added to by users.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: csound on Fedora 11 and rawhide

2009-09-08 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Art Hunkinsabhun...@uncg.edu wrote: Victor, I understand you to be saying that pulseaudio exhibits more latency than ALSA. If this is so, why are we making pulseaudio the default for SoaS - where most audio will be realtime? Because that's what Fedora and most

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Karma] audio does play for me in chromium

2009-09-08 Thread Felipe López Toledo
good! btw, are u using new Audio(..) or audio tag? I think g chrome supports audio but no new Audio(..) 2009/9/8 Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org at least in chromium 4.0.205.0 (Ubuntu build 25032) this is good new as both u and i thought chromium wouldn't support ogg any time soon --

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Karma] audio does play for me in chromium

2009-09-08 Thread Bryan Berry
On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 10:29 -0500, Felipe López Toledo wrote: good! btw, are u using new Audio(..) or audio tag? I think g chrome supports audio but no new Audio(..) sorry, i meant audio :) 2009/9/8 Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org at least in chromium 4.0.205.0 (Ubuntu build 25032)

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: csound on Fedora 11 and rawhide

2009-09-08 Thread Paul Fox
peter wrote: On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Art Hunkinsabhun...@uncg.edu wrote: Victor, I understand you to be saying that pulseaudio exhibits more latency than ALSA. If this is so, why are we making pulseaudio the default for SoaS - where most audio will be realtime?

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Karma] updated project roadmaps on wiki and in launchpad

2009-09-08 Thread Felipe López Toledo
here are my suggestions for the roadmaps http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Karma#Roadmaps great! I think we can add more features on the fly actually, I have a little question about SVG support: are u talking about svg animation support? (like dojo.gfx which has svg top level animation support)

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RFA] Feature freeze break: Terminal

2009-09-08 Thread Gary C Martin
On 7 Sep 2009, at 23:32, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 09/07/2009 08:28 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: Hello, The super awesome Simon has been kind enough to port the Terminal code to support the new toolbar functionality. Patch at

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Karma] help functionality for karma

2009-09-08 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org wrote: kcd, you put help functionality as item #8 on the meeting agenda http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Karma:Meeting_08_Sep_2009 neither subzero nor myself were sure what you wanted done in this regard. Can you explain? I had

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Karma] weekly meeting results

2009-09-08 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
2009/9/8 Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org here is the annotated agenda from this week's meeting http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Karma:Meeting_08_Sep_2009 Key things 0) The priorities for this week are cleaning up the codebase, documentation, and debugging jquery.karma.js. Next week we will

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RFA] Feature freeze break: Read

2009-09-08 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 7 Sep 2009, at 23:13, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 09/07/2009 08:37 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: Hello, Attached is the patch for making Read support the new toolbar system (patch courtesy of Simon). While it is a

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: csound on Fedora 11 and rawhide

2009-09-08 Thread Art Hunkins
I've finally got sound, out of my Asus EeePC900 (Linux) - wonderful. I'm also in a position to comment on much of what has been communicated over the last few hours. 1) The pulseaudio module *must* be downloaded/installed for Csound to work at all. Pulseaudio-libs is not required. 2)

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Feature Freeze] Request for exception for Turtle Art

2009-09-08 Thread Walter Bender
I managed to mess up the View Toolbar by accident. This version works: http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/TurtleArt/TurtleArt-65.tar.bz2 On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Walter Benderwalter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: I updated Turtle Art to use the new toolbars (thanks for all

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RFA] Feature freeze break: Read

2009-09-08 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/08/2009 08:10 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 7 Sep 2009, at 23:13, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 09/07/2009 08:37 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: Hello, Attached is the patch for making Read support the new toolbar

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RFA] Feature freeze break: Read

2009-09-08 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/08/2009 08:33 PM, Eben Eliason wrote: On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de wrote: On 09/08/2009 08:10 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 7 Sep 2009, at 23:13, Simon Schampijer

[Sugar-devel] Fwd: #1303 NORM: Peru package activities tested we send you the logs we find it

2009-09-08 Thread jon pintado
-- Forwarded message -- From: SugarLabs Bugs bugtracker-nore...@sugarlabs.org Date: 2009/9/8 Subject: #1303 NORM: Peru package activities tested we send you the logs we find it To: Cc: b...@lists.sugarlabs.org #1303: Peru package activities tested we send you the logs we find it

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: csound on Fedora 11 and rawhide

2009-09-08 Thread Art Hunkins
Followup: I've now got audio with SoaS on my Windows box. (I think I used a differently prepared stick, probably one that was updated *correctly*). All results were as described below on my Asus EeePC900. My remaining problem is MIDI input. Here are my CsOptions: -odac -+rtaudio=alsa

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: csound on Fedora 11 and rawhide

2009-09-08 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Art Hunkinsabhun...@uncg.edu wrote: I've finally got sound, out of my Asus EeePC900 (Linux) - wonderful. Good news. finally YAY! I'm also in a position to comment on much of what has been communicated over the last few hours. 1) The pulseaudio module

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: csound on Fedora 11 andrawhide

2009-09-08 Thread Art Hunkins
- Original Message - From: Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com To: Art Hunkins abhun...@uncg.edu Cc: cso...@lists.bath.ac.uk; sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: csound on Fedora 11 andrawhide On

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: csound on Fedora 11 and rawhide

2009-09-08 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Art Hunkinsabhun...@uncg.edu wrote: Followup: I've now got audio with SoaS on my Windows box. (I think I used a differently prepared stick, probably one that was updated *correctly*). All results were as described below on my Asus EeePC900. Great. My

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: csound on Fedora 11 andrawhide

2009-09-08 Thread Peter Robinson
1) The pulseaudio module *must* be downloaded/installed for Csound to work at all. Pulseaudio-libs is not required. Which module in particular? The one called pulseaudio on updates-testing. No sound (even specifying ALSA) without it. (The pulseaudio-libs was also a module on

Re: [Sugar-devel] Pulse audio on Fedora 11

2009-09-08 Thread Jim Simmons
My own two cents on Pulse Audio on Fedora 11: it doesn't work. I recently upgraded my Freevo box to Fedora 11 and had MANY sound related issues that were directly or indirectly caused by pulse audio. Freevo of course uses mplayer to play movies. It needs to sync the audio and the video to do

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: csound on Fedora 11 and rawhide

2009-09-08 Thread Art Hunkins
- Original Message - From: Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com To: Art Hunkins abhun...@uncg.edu Cc: cso...@lists.bath.ac.uk; sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: csound on Fedora 11 and rawhide My remaining

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: csound on Fedora 11 andrawhide

2009-09-08 Thread Art Hunkins
- Original Message - From: Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com To: Art Hunkins abhun...@uncg.edu Cc: cso...@lists.bath.ac.uk; sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: csound on Fedora 11 andrawhide 1)

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: csound on Fedora 11 and rawhide

2009-09-08 Thread Peter Robinson
Does the sound card midi require sound fonts or samples to be loaded, or even support midi? I think a lot of the newer cheap mother board sound cards like the Intel HDA audio don't even support it. Can you get it working using one of the other midi packages? There's a list in Fedora here

[Sugar-devel] Hack to get a USB/SD to autologin to only Sugar-desktop on a stick. from a F12-alpha live CD

2009-09-08 Thread Thomas C Gilliard
Sebastian: I used the F12-alpha-i686-KDE-live CD to install to a 4GB SD /dev/sd(x)1 /boot ext2 200 MiB with boot flag /dev/sd(x)2/ ext4 3.5 GiB (see attached screenshot) then I did the following commands in terminal: yum install @sugar-desktop yum upgrade

Re: [Sugar-devel] Hack to get a USB/SD to autologin to only Sugar-desktop on a stick. from a F12-alpha live CD

2009-09-08 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 04:09:56PM -0700, Thomas C Gilliard wrote: Sebastian: [...] ***Can you make a live CD like this which only installs Sugar-desktop?** This is what SoaS already is. Cordially Tom Gillard Martin pgpNebldeH0xk.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [Sugar-devel] Hack to get a USB/SD to autologin to only Sugar-desktop on a stick. from a F12-alpha live CD

2009-09-08 Thread Thomas C Gilliard
If I had been on a USB (liveuser) with a livefs plus persistence like the strawberry .iso and live-usbcreator (or sh script) creates, I would never have been able to do all of these yum installs,removes and upgrades. The resulting 4GB USB seems to be a HD install with a real file structure.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Hack to get a USB/SD to autologin to only Sugar-desktop on a stick. from a F12-alpha live CD

2009-09-08 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 04:17:52PM -0700, Thomas C Gilliard wrote: But [SoaS] is on a USB/SD installed from the install from the desktop to a real file system. Huh? Tom Gilliard Martin pgpfhTqxrmuna.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Karma] weekly meeting results

2009-09-08 Thread Bryan Berry
On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 23:45 +0545, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: 1. 2. need alternative to adding code by hand = what exactly is meant by that? something like a script that can be run to add an appropriate knavbar to a karma tutorial/exercise/game? exactly --

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Karma] updated project roadmaps on wiki and in launchpad

2009-09-08 Thread Bryan Berry
On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 10:46 -0500, Felipe López Toledo wrote: actually, I have a little question about SVG support: are u talking about svg animation support? (like dojo.gfx which has svg top level animation support) or are u talking in merging svg with canvas (svg2canvas)? (like burst

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Etoys 4.0.2279

2009-09-08 Thread Bert Freudenberg
== Sources == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/etoys/etoys-4.0.2279.tar.gz http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/Etoys/Etoys-105.tar.gz == Packaged == http://etoys.laptop.org/rpms/etoys-4.0.2279-1.noarch.rpm http://etoys.laptop.org/rpms/Etoys-105.xo ==

Re: [Sugar-devel] bug redirection?

2009-09-08 Thread Bryan Berry
it doesn't look like other bugs go directly sugar-devel so let's not redirect them to sugar-devel On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 10:48 -0500, Felipe López Toledo wrote: should we forward the karma bugs msgs to sugar-devel list? [Karma][BUG ][New]y -- Felipe López Toledo -- Bryan W. Berry

Re: [Sugar-devel] Hack to get a USB/SD to autologin to only Sugar-desktop on a stick. from a F12-alpha live CD

2009-09-08 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 04:43:49PM -0700, Thomas C Gilliard wrote: The ability to use a Custom Sugar live CD( If we can make one) for testing on a PC and then installing to USB (or HD) appears to be a new and different creature. Yup - and a good idea: it's easier for someone to run a

[Sugar-devel] How to add karma api to api.sugarlabs.org?

2009-09-08 Thread Bryan Berry
hey Dave, How can I put the api docs for Karma on a.sl.o? a.sl.o/karma would work fine for me We have html docs generated w/ jsdocs javascript tool. We are not using epydoc -- Bryan W. Berry Technology Director OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org

[Sugar-devel] Hello, was Re: Hack to get a USB/SD to autologin to only Sugar-desktop on a stick. from a F12-alpha live CD

2009-09-08 Thread Douglas McClendon
Hello, My name is Douglas McClendon, and I created the ZyX-LiveInstaller which appears on track to becoming part of SoaS. I also can accept praise and blame for the LiveUSB persistence feature I implemented for fedora a couple years back, as well as that strange file osmin.img which appears,