Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-28 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 10/22/2010 07:00 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 10/07/2010 06:39 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: On 4 October 2010 15:27, Gonzalo Odiardgonz...@laptop.org wrote: What do others think about this approach? Packagers? A clearer way to discuss this would be to just send a patch. That way there is no

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal of dotted activity version number

2010-10-28 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: I have been giving the patches another go and made some smaller fixes for error handling. I have tested them as well to make sure there are no regressions. I give them my ok.

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-presence-service-0.84.3

2010-10-28 Thread Simon Schampijer
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-presence-service/sugar-presence-service-0.84.3.tar.bz2 == News == * Release 0.84.3 (Simon Schampijer) * Remove shared activity from the neighborhood view when no members left #10308 (Simon Schampijer) * Deal with unicode

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-0.84.24

2010-10-28 Thread Simon Schampijer
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar/sugar-0.84.24.tar.bz2 == News == * Release 0.84.24 (Simon Schampijer) * Disable start option for entries that can't be opened #8733 (Mukul Gupta) * Cleanup temporary files on startup #10301 (Simon Schampijer) * Adjust

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-artwork-0.84.4

2010-10-28 Thread Simon Schampijer
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-artwork/sugar-artwork-0.84.4.tar.bz2 == News == * Release 0.84.4 (Simon Schampijer) * New go-home icon, needed by Browse (Gary C Martin) ___ Sugar-devel mailing list

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] [PATCH v5 sugar] Pulsing icon delayed by 5 seconds or so SL#2080

2010-10-28 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 11:15:01PM +0530, Anurag Chowdhury wrote: I carried out the same benchmark test, which I earlier conducted on an XO-1.5 , on a X0-1 . Please tell us what the test is/was. How many times did you run it? How did you make sure nothing else interfered with the system cpu

[Sugar-devel] Olpc Os builder error

2010-10-28 Thread javed khan
Hi All when running the olpc-os-builder i got the following (i am using fedora 11 in virtual box) Installing: totem-mozplugin # [605/605] authconfig: Authentication module /lib/security/pam_fprintd.so is missing. Authentication process might not work

Re: [Sugar-devel] an ardent proposal to bring *LOVE* back into Sugar Labs

2010-10-28 Thread Walter Bender
Would someone please translate this message into Spanish for the Sur list? Gracias. --- Further comment on Adam's ardent proposal to bring *LOVE* back into Sugar Labs: On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 1:42 AM, Holt h...@laptop.org wrote: [snip] Yes, I'm paraphrasing, Walter please speak for yourself :)

Re: [Sugar-devel] Research: 0.84 Launcher Cost

2010-10-28 Thread Dipankar Patro
Hello James, I was going through the discussion over the bug #2080 handled currently by Anurag. I too was thinking of replacing the animation algo, which currently is sine function. I was having some questions in mind after looking at your research. When launcher is disabled, the time saving is

[Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Share 3G connection

2010-10-28 Thread Martin Abente
Hello amigos, I have started working on the Dextrose TODO (deployment's wishlist) [1], and the share 3G connection item is a popular and beneficial feature to be implemented on dextrose with high hopes for upstreaming :). I invite everyone interested in this feature [2] to give me his feedback,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] an ardent proposal to bring *LOVE* back into Sugar Labs

2010-10-28 Thread Caroline Meeks
Great idea! I can host parties at my new T Accessible house in Arlington if that helps. On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 1:42 AM, Holt h...@laptop.org wrote: (1) In-person meetings in between Bostonian http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board members and Sugar/OLPC Local Lab Boston, quasimonthly.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] an ardent proposal to bring *LOVE* back into Sugar Labs

2010-10-28 Thread Holt
Let's do it, conveniently right by Alewife's Red Line subway stop: I will help cater -- thanks so much for your devotion to the cause Caroline. On 10/28/2010 11:30 AM, Caroline Meeks wrote: Great idea! I can host parties at my new T Accessible house in Arlington if that helps. On Thu, Oct

[Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCEMENT] Roadmap to OLPC 10.1.3 release

2010-10-28 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, I am happy to announce the following: =About= There will be another Fedora 11 / Sugar 0.84 based release for the XO-1, the XO-1.5 and the XO-1.5 HS (High School) laptop. This will be a bug fix release that incorporates feedback from the field and from testers. =Schedule= The release is

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] [PATCH v5 sugar] Pulsing icon delayed by 5 seconds or so SL#2080

2010-10-28 Thread Anurag Chowdhury
I have attached the pulsingicon.py file in which I placed the benchmark script to test the time taken by update function everytime it is called. I used the time.time() function to measure the time taken to process the update step. And If you may compare the odd steps of both logs i.e the numbers

[Sugar-devel] Write: changing the default insert image mode

2010-10-28 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
I was testing changing the default mode inserting a image in Write from floating to in-place. It enable insert a image inside a table, and I think is more usable. Is the default mode in Abiword too. If the user want insert a floating image, i added a checkbox to the palette of the insert image

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] an ardent proposal to bring *LOVE* back into Sugar Labs

2010-10-28 Thread Holt
Walter right next to me here at OLPC in Cambridge, MA wants to clarify the dates below before they are republished, getting them closer to Luke's original Nov 10 and Nov 14-27 suggestions as he and Luke see fit -- thanks for holding the presses etc until Walter finds a computer and clarifies

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] [PATCH v5 sugar] Pulsing icon delayed by 5 seconds or so SL#2080

2010-10-28 Thread Martin Dengler
I'm sorry to harp on this, but I hope you can see it actually takes quite some effort to communicate this stuff well... On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 09:27:18PM +0530, Anurag Chowdhury wrote: I have attached the pulsingicon.py file Thanks - very useful to understand what you're timing. in which I

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] [PATCH v5 sugar] Pulsing icon delayed by 5 seconds or so SL#2080

2010-10-28 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
I think the problem is the code is rendering the svg icon every time the color is changed. There are not cache or cairo operation used to avoid this. Gonzalo ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org

[Sugar-devel] [PATCH v2 Paint Activity] Fixed aspect ratio mode for Shape tools (OLPC#3705)

2010-10-28 Thread Ayush Goyal
Added fixed aspect ratio mode for line,ellipse and rectangle tool using Shift key as mask or using a keep aspect ratio checkbox from palette.This allows drawing of straight lines 45 degree lines from line tool,circle from ellipse tool and square from rectangle tool Signed-off-by: Ayush Goyal

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] [PATCH v5 sugar] Pulsing icon delayed by 5 seconds or so SL#2080

2010-10-28 Thread Anurag Chowdhury
Certainly that seems to me as a possible reason behind this issue , but in the present state we need to decide exactly on what future we want for this pulsing icon i.e. keep it , improve it or replace it. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 12:14 AM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: I think the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] [PATCH v5 sugar] Pulsing icon delayed by 5 seconds or so SL#2080

2010-10-28 Thread Anurag Chowdhury
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:12 PM, Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.com wrote: I'm sorry to harp on this, but I hope you can see it actually takes quite some effort to communicate this stuff well... On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 09:27:18PM +0530, Anurag Chowdhury wrote: I have attached the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] [PATCH v5 sugar] Pulsing icon delayed by 5 seconds or so SL#2080

2010-10-28 Thread James Cameron
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 06:42:53PM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: http://www.martindengler.com/tmp/sl.o-2080/pulsingicon.py-stats-graph.png Nice. A question on interpretation ... is the number of renderings consistent with the number of __pulse_cb callbacks? Looking at the bright green costly

Re: [Sugar-devel] Research: 0.84 Launcher Cost

2010-10-28 Thread James Cameron
G'day Dipanker, My research was not intended to propose a design change. I'm happy with how the launcher appears, and I think it adds considerable value to the learning experience of the child. I'm slightly not happy with delaying the startup of an activity, and I see that as a defect. I don't

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] [PATCH v5 sugar] Pulsing icon delayed by 5 seconds or so SL#2080

2010-10-28 Thread Gary Martin
On 28 Oct 2010, at 00:17, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 11:15:01PM +0530, Anurag Chowdhury wrote: I carried out the same benchmark test, which I earlier conducted on an XO-1.5, on a XO-1. And I have attached the log files obtained in both the cases. I have

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] [PATCH v5 sugar] Pulsing icon delayed by 5 seconds or so SL#2080

2010-10-28 Thread James Cameron
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 01:36:08AM +0100, Gary Martin wrote: The main issue was that kids quickly start clicking (and did!) on other visible buttons/activities, quickly stalling out the whole system through impatience. The fullscreen launcher was designed to remove this case given our multi

Re: [Sugar-devel] Research: 0.84 Launcher Cost

2010-10-28 Thread Gary Martin
On 28 Oct 2010, at 04:34, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: Earlier in the context of SL#2080 patch review, I had said the launcher is stealing CPU cycles from the startup of the activity, the task run queue shows this during a launch. I wonder if activities might start up faster if

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] fix network disconnect and discard history

2010-10-28 Thread James Cameron
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 04:11:35PM -0200, Esteban Arias wrote: I press discard history and shell.logs shows: [...] File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/jarabe/model/network.py, line 506, in clear_wifi_connections if conn.type == NM_CONNECTION_TYPE_802_11_WIRELESS: AttributeError:

Re: [Sugar-devel] Research: 0.84 Launcher Cost

2010-10-28 Thread James Cameron
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 02:41:48AM +0100, Gary Martin wrote: On 28 Oct 2010, at 04:34, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: Diagnosis: removing the launcher animation saved between one and four seconds of startup time. The saving was greatest for the Moon activity. Agreed, when Wade

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] [PATCH v5 sugar] Pulsing icon delayed by 5 seconds or so SL#2080

2010-10-28 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 05:26:40AM +0530, Anurag Chowdhury wrote: On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:12 PM, Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.com wrote:  to test the time taken by update function everytime it is called. I used the time.time() function to measure the time taken to process the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] [PATCH v5 sugar] Pulsing icon delayed by 5 seconds or so SL#2080

2010-10-28 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 05:26:33AM +0530, Anurag Chowdhury wrote: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 12:14 AM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: I think the problem is the code is rendering the svg icon every time the color is changed. There are not cache or cairo operation used to avoid this.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] [PATCH v5 sugar] Pulsing icon delayed by 5 seconds or so SL#2080

2010-10-28 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:05:45AM +1100, James Cameron wrote: On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 06:42:53PM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: http://www.martindengler.com/tmp/sl.o-2080/pulsingicon.py-stats-graph.png Nice. A question on interpretation ... is the number of renderings consistent with the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] [PATCH v3] Reduction in the time taken for loading of the menu (SL#1169)

2010-10-28 Thread Bernie Innocenti
[cc += fgrose,m_stone] On Wed, 2010-10-27 at 06:19 +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 06:05:58AM +0530, Manusheel Gupta wrote: Are we ready to commit this patch? Well, it's only a year after there were some quite significant discussions about it:

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] [PATCH v5 sugar] Pulsing icon delayed by 5 seconds or so SL#2080

2010-10-28 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
I was wondering about this as well. I am more of a backend programmer, but the most obvious thing that stands out to me is that Sugar activities do not seem to regularly change their launch icons. They are not like system tray or Sugar frame icons which alter themselves to tell us

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] [PATCH v5 sugar] Pulsing icon delayed by 5 seconds or so SL#2080

2010-10-28 Thread James Cameron
G'day Samuel, Yes, I think you're right, pre-rendering, either to RAM or to a file on disk, would likely speed things considerably. I suggest rendering 12 views at linear levels, then switching between them using varying timing rather than fixed timing. The visual effect would not appear to be

Re: [Sugar-devel] broken playback in record and jukebox

2010-10-28 Thread Erik Blankinship
On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Erik Blankinship er...@mediamods.comwrote: On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 9:38 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 03:31:23PM -0400, Erik Blankinship wrote: If I pause a video in either the record or jukebox activities and wait about

Re: [Sugar-devel] broken playback in record and jukebox

2010-10-28 Thread James Cameron
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 01:41:56AM -0400, Erik Blankinship wrote: On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Erik Blankinship wrote: On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 9:38 PM, James Cameron wrote: On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 03:31:23PM -0400, Erik Blankinship wrote: If I pause a video in either the record or