Re: [Sugar-devel] Stepping down

2011-11-21 Thread Simon Schampijer
El 19/11/11 16:52, Bernie Innocenti escribió: On Fri, 2011-11-18 at 17:59 +0100, Simon Schampijer wrote: Can we change the owner of the git repository (to me)? Or if that is not an easy thing to do can you grant me admin rights? Done! (with the help of aleksey, who is sitting next to me)

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release ClassRoomBroadcast-1

2011-11-21 Thread forster
out of curiosity: What is the advantage of using this activity over VNCLauncher (http://activities.sugarlabs.org/de/sugar/addon/4311)? Out of curiosity, i tried VNCLauncher on OS880 Firstly, I was able to install the client - TigerVNC (though you need root to do it) and run it sudo yum

[Sugar-devel] [FEATURES] Write to Journal anytime (finally in 0.96?)

2011-11-21 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, this Feature has a long history and I would like to see it being finished. Replacement for the Naming Alert that lets you write to the Journal at any time while working on an activity. [1] I think this needs another final round of design discussion, the last proposal at (with the same

[Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Today deadline for proposing features for 0.96

2011-11-21 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, just a quick reminder that today is the deadline for proposing Features for the 0.96 development cycle [1]. The currently proposed and accepted Features can be seen here [2]. Regards, Simon [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.96/Roadmap [2]

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES] Display Device

2011-11-21 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.dewrote: Hi, I would like to propose the following Feature to enhance the Sugar learning environment: Add a frame device to control the display. The idea is to add their an option to change the brightness and to take a

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Today deadline for proposing features for 0.96

2011-11-21 Thread Walter Bender
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 5:45 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Hi, just a quick reminder that today is the deadline for proposing Features for the 0.96 development cycle [1]. The currently proposed and accepted Features can be seen here [2]. Regards,   Simon [1]

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES] Display Device

2011-11-21 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Screenshot is a used feature by teachers anyway. Another requested feature is the ability to take a screenshot with the canvas only (probably with a modifier like alt-shift-1). But the problem with a feature only accessed by a hot key is the discoverability. I don't like using the camera icon to

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES] Display Device

2011-11-21 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.dewrote: El 21/11/11 13:17, Christoph Derndorfer escribió: On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de** wrote: Hi, I would like to propose the following Feature to enhance the Sugar learning

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES] Display Device

2011-11-21 Thread Walter Bender
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 7:54 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: El 21/11/11 13:17, Christoph Derndorfer escribió: On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.dewrote: Hi, I would like to propose the following Feature to enhance the Sugar learning

[Sugar-devel] Hardware Requirements

2011-11-21 Thread Iain Brown Douglas
I want to add a paragraph to the wiki on hardware requirements for SoaS. From http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora For Fedora 16 I see: A 400MHz or faster processor At least 768 MB memory (RAM), 1 GB recommended for best performance. Is it relevant to quote this for SoaS? I

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Today deadline for proposing features for 0.96

2011-11-21 Thread Simon Schampijer
El 21/11/11 13:29, Walter Bender escribió: On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 5:45 AM, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de wrote: Hi, just a quick reminder that today is the deadline for proposing Features for the 0.96 development cycle [1]. The currently proposed and accepted Features can be seen here

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Today deadline for proposing features for 0.96

2011-11-21 Thread Walter Bender
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: El 21/11/11 13:29, Walter Bender escribió: On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 5:45 AM, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de  wrote: Hi, just a quick reminder that today is the deadline for proposing Features for the 0.96

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2011-11-19

2011-11-21 Thread Chris Leonard
More strings will be coming soon. Our Quechua team also included some remote contributors from Boliviia. As I explained to our teams, localization sprints are great start, but now we start running the ultra-marathon. :-) SugarCamp Lima was incredibly productive (in more ways than just

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] meeting proposal to discuss Journal features for 0.96

2011-11-21 Thread Manuel Quiñones
Hi, 2011/11/21 Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org: Hello designers! Can we organize a meeting to talk about these topics, next monday at the usual 15 UTC time? We have a lot of work to do, if we want include these features in 0.96, but first we need define a few design issues. +1 for me!

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] meeting proposal to discuss Journal features for 0.96

2011-11-21 Thread Walter Bender
2011/11/21 Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org: Hi, 2011/11/21 Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org: Hello designers! Can we organize a meeting to talk about these topics, next monday at the usual 15 UTC time? We have a lot of work to do, if we want include these features in 0.96, but first we

Re: [Sugar-devel] Hardware Requirements

2011-11-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Iain Brown Douglas i...@browndouglas.plus.com wrote: I want to add a paragraph to the wiki on hardware requirements for SoaS. SoaS queries should go to the SoaS mailing list. From http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora For Fedora 16 I see:        A 400MHz or

[Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Activity-specific metadata in Journal

2011-11-21 Thread Walter Bender
I would like to propose the following Feature to enhance the Sugar learning environment: Record metadata related to the use of an activity and display it in the detail view of the Journal. [1] [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Activity_specific_metadata_in_Journal regards. -walter --

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES] Display Device

2011-11-21 Thread Paul Fox
simon wrote: Hi, I would like to propose the following Feature to enhance the Sugar learning environment: Add a frame device to control the display. The idea is to add their an option to change the brightness and to take a screenshot. Both actions are only available via the

[Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Journal Volume Toolbar enhancement

2011-11-21 Thread Walter Bender
I would like to propose the following Feature to enhance the Sugar learning environment: The VolumesToolbar class in volumetoolbar.py should be extended so that Sugar activities can mount directories containing example projects, e.g., the samples subdirectory in Turtle Art. Thus samples will be

[Sugar-devel] [FEATURE]

2011-11-21 Thread Walter Bender
I would like to propose the following Feature to enhance the Sugar learning environment: Add the ability to set a background image to the Home View. [1] [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Background_image_on_home_view regards. -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs

[Sugar-devel] [FEATURE]

2011-11-21 Thread Walter Bender
I would like to propose the following Feature to enhance the Sugar learning environment: Option to have different collections of activities on the Home View for formal (classroom) and informal (home) use. [1] [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Multiple_home_views regards. -walter --

[Sugar-devel] automatic backlight control

2011-11-21 Thread Paul Fox
this note is kind of long for what seems like a simple feature, but there are some complications i'd like feedback on. i've implemented one of the more amusing features of the 1.75 laptop, which is using its ability to monitor ambient light levels in order to turn off the backlight automatically

[Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Thumbnail view in Journal

2011-11-21 Thread Walter Bender
I would like to repropose the following Feature to enhance the Sugar learning environment (originally proposed by alsroot some time ago): Thumbs view plugin for Journal. [1] [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Thumbs_View_in_Journal regards. -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs

Re: [Sugar-devel] automatic backlight control

2011-11-21 Thread Walter Bender
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 9:22 AM, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org wrote: this note is kind of long for what seems like a simple feature, but there are some complications i'd like feedback on. i've implemented one of the more amusing features of the 1.75 laptop, which is using its ability to monitor

[Sugar-devel] FEATURE: Journal data tagged private or public

2011-11-21 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
I want propose the following feature: Modes private / public: A problem raised by some teachers, is that Journals of his students (and on school servers) are filled with music or games. With this proposal, Sugar would offer you to work in public when working at school or doing homework, or, if you

[Sugar-devel] FEATURE: Multiple selection in the Journal

2011-11-21 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
I want propose Enable operation on multiple selected entries in the Journal. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Multi_selection ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] automatic backlight control

2011-11-21 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 21.11.2011, at 15:29, Walter Bender wrote: Paul, Unless the display design is different than it was in 2007, then there is no way to decouple turning off the backlight and going into monochrome. Also, turning on the backlight adds color back (although the amount of color vs monochrome

Re: [Sugar-devel] automatic backlight control

2011-11-21 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 21.11.2011, at 15:48, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 21.11.2011, at 15:29, Walter Bender wrote: Paul, Unless the display design is different than it was in 2007, then there is no way to decouple turning off the backlight and going into monochrome. Also, turning on the backlight adds

Re: [Sugar-devel] automatic backlight control

2011-11-21 Thread Kevin Gordon
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 9:22 AM, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org wrote: this note is kind of long for what seems like a simple feature, but there are some complications i'd like feedback on. i've implemented one of the more amusing features of the 1.75 laptop, which is using its ability to monitor

Re: [Sugar-devel] automatic backlight control

2011-11-21 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 21.11.2011, at 15:22, Paul Fox wrote: it quickly became clear (to me, at least) that it would be confusing if user-dimming behaved differently than auto-backlight-control, with respect to monochrome mode. whether or not it's confusing to the user, it's definitely confusing to the code,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES] Display Device

2011-11-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: El 21/11/11 15:18, Paul Fox escribió: simon wrote:    Hi,      I would like to propose the following Feature to enhance the Sugar    learning environment:      Add a frame device to control the display. The idea

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES] Display Device

2011-11-21 Thread Paul Fox
peter wrote: On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: El 21/11/11 15:18, Paul Fox escribió: simon wrote: Hi, I would like to propose the following Feature to enhance the Sugar learning environment: Add a frame

Re: [Sugar-devel] automatic backlight control

2011-11-21 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Just to reinforce a few points which maybe might not be clear to people who haven't played with the new hardware: 1) the switch point is set that *you cannot tell when we turn the backlight off*. Ie, the threshold is so high that by the time we turn it off, you couldn't never have told whether

Re: [Sugar-devel] FEATURE: Journal data tagged private or public

2011-11-21 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: I want propose the following feature: Modes private / public: A problem raised by some teachers, is that Journals of his students (and on school servers) are filled with music or games. With this proposal, Sugar would

Re: [Sugar-devel] automatic backlight control

2011-11-21 Thread Paul Fox
walter wrote: Paul, Unless the display design is different than it was in 2007, then there is no way to decouple turning off the backlight and going into monochrome. Also, turning on the backlight adds color back (although the amount of color vs monochrome in the mix is a function

Re: [Sugar-devel] automatic backlight control

2011-11-21 Thread Paul Fox
kevin wrote: Not sure if I have gleaned all of what is desired here, but I will share my experience. I have a Samsung N130, a Lenovo S10-2, and an Adam Notion Ink all with Pixel Qi screens. Turning the backlight off and automatically being in monochrome is a desired feature and

Re: [Sugar-devel] automatic backlight control

2011-11-21 Thread Paul Fox
bert wrote: On 21.11.2011, at 15:22, Paul Fox wrote: it quickly became clear (to me, at least) that it would be confusing if user-dimming behaved differently than auto-backlight-control, with respect to monochrome mode. whether or not it's confusing to the user, it's definitely

Re: [Sugar-devel] automatic backlight control

2011-11-21 Thread Paul Fox
[ resending to cc: the lists ] dj wrote: Can the keyboard backlight control have an extra step at the end, going trom bright to dim to off/color to off/mono ? Then the auto-backlight would be allowed to bring it down to off/color, and the user could go the extra step to off/mono.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES] Display Device

2011-11-21 Thread Simon Schampijer
El 21/11/11 17:16, Paul Fox escribió: peter wrote: On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de wrote: El 21/11/11 15:18, Paul Fox escribió: simon wrote: Hi, I would like to propose the following Feature to enhance the

Re: [Sugar-devel] automatic backlight control

2011-11-21 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 21.11.2011, at 18:06, Paul Fox wrote: bert wrote: On 21.11.2011, at 15:22, Paul Fox wrote: it quickly became clear (to me, at least) that it would be confusing if user-dimming behaved differently than auto-backlight-control, with respect to monochrome mode. whether or not it's

Re: [Sugar-devel] FEATURE: Journal data tagged private or public

2011-11-21 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
I am not sure. We need think it- Gonzalo Do you imagine this feature could be tied in with Walter's suggestion for having multiple home views ( http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Multiple_home_views)? e.g. An Activity launched from the school desktop being automatically tagged as public. Or

[Sugar-devel] [REMINDER] Development team meeting --- 22. Nov 2011 (15:00 UTC)

2011-11-21 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, tomorrow we will have our weekly development team meeting: This week topics are: * status of the GTK3 port * current status of the development cycle [1] * proposed Features for the 0.96 cycle [2] * activity team status Time: 15. Nov 2011 (15:00 UTC) Place: #sugar-meeting (freenode)

[Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Adding another path for lookup of mfg-data directory

2011-11-21 Thread Manuel Quiñones
The mfg-data directory is located in another path for some builds, so the activity has to check in both places for existence. This fixes Log for olpc #6. Signed-off-by: Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org --- logcollect.py | 18 +- 1 files changed, 13 insertions(+), 5

[Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2011-11-21 Thread Anish Mangal
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I'd like to propose Network proxy configuration in Sugar http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Proxy_configuration - -- Anish Mangal Dextrose Project Manager Activity Central -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux)

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES] Display Device

2011-11-21 Thread Paul Fox
simon wrote: I have been checking what gnome is doing (gnome-settings-daemon (the functionality was in gnome-power-manager before)): - they use xbacklight [1] if possible to get/set the brightness [2], doing this through the gnome-desktop library [3] - there is fallback code

[Sugar-devel] automatic backlight control

2011-11-21 Thread forster
The shift from colour to monochrome is noticable and would be annoying if it happened a lot, for example as clouds pass, trees and people move. If the hysterisis, the difference between cutin and cutout brightness is large, the change in mode will happen a lot less frequently and not be

[Sugar-devel] [Sugar Devel][FEATURE][DESIGN] Show thumb drives and SD cards as hierarchical file systems in the Journal UI.

2011-11-21 Thread James Simmons
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Show_Thumb_Drives_As_Hierarchical#Benefit_to_Sugar This is my first attempt to formally propose a feature, so the page is not as complete as it could be. I am not interested in actually implenting the feature, however I have written a fair amount of code

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2011-11-21 Thread James Simmons
Yes, Sugar definitely needs this. There are probably many schools that use proxy servers to control what the kids can browse, etc. and there needs to be a simple way to set these up. James Simmons On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Anish Mangal an...@activitycentral.orgwrote: -BEGIN PGP

Re: [Sugar-devel] automatic backlight control

2011-11-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 9:22 AM, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org wrote: i've already had some guarded negative feedback on both of these new behaviors, so i'm looking for more of that, as well as positive feedback to balance it out.  :-) Hi folks -- I was one of the early commenters on this. And Paul

Re: [Sugar-devel] automatic backlight control

2011-11-21 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, On Mon, Nov 21 2011, Martin Langhoff wrote: Hi folks -- I was one of the early commenters on this. And Paul gave me a, ahem, strong recommendation. All caps. Neon lights, blinking: TRY IT OUT ON AN XO-1.75 And when *pgf* types in all caps, you *know* it's serious. -- Chris Ball

Re: [Sugar-devel] NZ Testing - Letters 23

2011-11-21 Thread Tabitha Roder
On 31 October 2011 13:08, Peter Hewitt p...@mulawa.net wrote: This activity requires the player to make the longest English word from 8 random letters. Just wanted to comment on the idea of supplying a list of the missed words. This is most undesirable - many of the words in the computer's

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2011-11-21 Thread James Cameron
But don't forget that many deployments have solved this in build customisation, so check that what you do doesn't break what they do. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] automatic backlight control

2011-11-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: And when *pgf* types in all caps, you *know* it's serious. :-) -- actually, he didn't go that far. But I lack his subtlety so I went for it guns ablazing. m --  martin.langh...@gmail.com  mar...@laptop.org -- Software

Re: [Sugar-devel] automatic backlight control

2011-11-21 Thread Paul Fox
i wrote: please try os12, when available, and see how it feels. i'm afraid the necessary firmware didn't make the deadline for os12, so you'll need to either wait for os13, or q4c05 firmware, whichever comes first. paul =- paul fox, p...@laptop.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Sugar Devel][FEATURE][DESIGN] Show thumb drives and SD cards as hierarchical file systems in the Journal UI.

2011-11-21 Thread Rafael Ortiz
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 3:46 PM, James Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Show_Thumb_Drives_As_Hierarchical#Benefit_to_Sugar This is my first attempt to formally propose a feature, so the page is not as complete as it could be. I am not interested in

[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Turtle Blocks-128

2011-11-21 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4027 Sugar Platform: 0.82 - 0.96 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/27753/turtle_art-128.xo Release notes: 128 BUG FIXES: * Fixed logic error preventing camera capture of multiple frames * Fixed problem with

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Global Text to Speech

2011-11-21 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Attached is a first try of implementation, to discuss. Is using gstreamer-plugins-espeak, already included in the last images, and used in all the activities using text-to-speech. Do not add any new dependency. A device is added in the frame to configure pitch and velocity, and the hotkey

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] [PATCH 50/54] updater: Only pre-select already installed activities (fixes SL#2822, AU#383)

2011-11-21 Thread Walter Bender
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Mon, 2011-11-21 at 17:42 -0600, Jerry Vonau wrote: On Tue, 2011-11-08 at 23:17 +0530, Anish Mangal wrote: From: Ajay Garg ajaygargn...@gmail.com OLPC AU uses the software updater to offer easy installing of

[Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Usage statistics gathering

2011-11-21 Thread Sebastian Silva
Hi Sugar Community, /* En castellano más abajo */ I would like to propose this feature for inclusion in the next Sugar release: / To gather usage statistics in separate logs from error logs (up to a storage limit). The software improvement process requires usage statistics data to learn from

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] [PATCH 50/54] updater: Only pre-select already installed activities (fixes SL#2822, AU#383)

2011-11-21 Thread Jerry Vonau
On Mon, 2011-11-21 at 21:58 -0500, Walter Bender wrote: On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Mon, 2011-11-21 at 17:42 -0600, Jerry Vonau wrote: On Tue, 2011-11-08 at 23:17 +0530, Anish Mangal wrote: From: Ajay Garg ajaygargn...@gmail.com

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Adding another path for lookup of mfg-data directory

2011-11-21 Thread Manuel Quiñones
2011/11/21 James Cameron qu...@laptop.org: On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 04:25:57PM -0300, Manuel Qui??ones wrote: The mfg-data directory is located in another path for some builds, so the activity has to check in both places for existence.  This fixes Log for olpc #6. [...] @@ -51,6 +51,9 @@

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Sur] [FEATURE] Usage statistics gathering

2011-11-21 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Can you be more specific about type of information collected? Also, filling the disk with statistics does not look like a good idea Interested in reading more Gonzalo On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 12:23 AM, Sebastian Silva sebast...@somosazucar.org wrote: Hi Sugar Community, /* En

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Sur] [FEATURE] Usage statistics gathering

2011-11-21 Thread Sebastian Silva
I would find it a great start with activity x started / stopped / got focus / lost focus. The spec mentions a storage limit should be taken into consideration. In the 2010 approach taken in Peru, I rotated a log consisting of four 256K files for a total of 1MB maximum. Regards, Sebastian El

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Sur] [FEATURE] Usage statistics gathering

2011-11-21 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 2:00 AM, Sebastian Silva sebast...@somosazucar.orgwrote: I would find it a great start with activity x started / stopped / got focus / lost focus. Ok. May be we can ask to the Learning Team what other statistic can be useful? The spec mentions a storage limit