[Sugar-devel] Sugar Labs in GSoC 2013

2013-04-09 Thread Kalpa Welivitigoda
Hi all,

I am really happy and impressed to see Sugar Labs listed in accepted
organizations for Google Code of Summer 2013.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Labs in GSoC 2013

2013-04-09 Thread Manuel Quiñones
2013/4/9 Kalpa Welivitigoda callka...@gmail.com:
 Hi all,

 I am really happy and impressed to see Sugar Labs listed in accepted
 organizations for Google Code of Summer 2013.

Great news! This comunity is giving a boost :)

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Labs in GSoC 2013

2013-04-09 Thread Walter Bender
Sugar Labs has been accepted in Google Summer of Code 2013. Thanks to
everyone in the community who contributed to our application. Now it is
time to recruit students. More details coming your way soon.

regards.

-walter


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 2013/4/9 Kalpa Welivitigoda callka...@gmail.com:
  Hi all,
 
  I am really happy and impressed to see Sugar Labs listed in accepted
  organizations for Google Code of Summer 2013.

 Great news! This comunity is giving a boost :)

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Labs in GSoC 2013

2013-04-09 Thread Martin Abente
Great news!!


On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.comwrote:

 Sugar Labs has been accepted in Google Summer of Code 2013. Thanks to
 everyone in the community who contributed to our application. Now it is
 time to recruit students. More details coming your way soon.

 regards.

 -walter


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 2013/4/9 Kalpa Welivitigoda callka...@gmail.com:
  Hi all,
 
  I am really happy and impressed to see Sugar Labs listed in accepted
  organizations for Google Code of Summer 2013.

 Great news! This comunity is giving a boost :)

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Labs in GSoC 2013

2013-04-09 Thread Dr. Gerald Ardito
This is really great news!


On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.comwrote:

 Sugar Labs has been accepted in Google Summer of Code 2013. Thanks to
 everyone in the community who contributed to our application. Now it is
 time to recruit students. More details coming your way soon.

 regards.

 -walter


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 2013/4/9 Kalpa Welivitigoda callka...@gmail.com:
  Hi all,
 
  I am really happy and impressed to see Sugar Labs listed in accepted
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 Great news! This comunity is giving a boost :)

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Web Services, Control Panel section

2013-04-09 Thread Manuel Quiñones
2013/4/6 Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com:



 On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 1:27 AM, Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org wrote:

 Hi, some bits of design topics for the Web Services feature.

 1. Wording.  Are we OK with Configure your Web Services?  First of,
 no other section use verbs.  According to the description in the
 feature page, this is an account manager.  Other names come to my
 mind:

 - Social Accounts
 - Web Accounts
 - Web Services Configuration (similar to Modem Configuration)

 More ideas?

 2. Icon.  So there is no icon yet.  I did a test using dialog baloons.
  I'm not very convinced, what do people think?

 http://dev.laptop.org/~manuq/websettings-icon.png
 http://dev.laptop.org/~manuq/module-webservices.svg

 When no web services are installed the CP section displays a message.
 Good!  To close it, buttons Cancel or OK can be pressed.  They both do
 the same, which can be confusing, but this is a flaw of the sugar
 control panel itself, nothing to do in this feature about this.

 Ideally the link in that message could be pressed by the user, but we
 know the limitations of Sugar opening activities from inside other
 activities.  What would be convenient, is if the text could be
 selected and copied to the clipboard, or dragged to it.  I think it
 could even contain the link information.

 By the way I have tried the link and it doesn't exist:
 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/WebServices gives 404 not found.

 Walter, can you point me to one webservice extension so I can test
 further?  I can see from this screenshot it embeds a webview?

 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:FB-online-account-manager.png


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 Try grabbing the latest bits from
 http://git.sugarlabs.org/+redwood-city/sugar/social-sugar

I copyed extensions/web to my install/share/sugar/extensions but
wasn't grabbed.  Can you provide us a patch to current master?

 Re icons, I had just been using the Browse icon.

Yes, I remember it was a placeholder.  So what about the topics I
raised, wording proposal and icon proposal?

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Web Services, Control Panel section

2013-04-09 Thread Walter Bender
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org wrote:

 2013/4/6 Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com:
 
 
 
  On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 1:27 AM, Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org
 wrote:
 
  Hi, some bits of design topics for the Web Services feature.
 
  1. Wording.  Are we OK with Configure your Web Services?  First of,
  no other section use verbs.  According to the description in the
  feature page, this is an account manager.  Other names come to my
  mind:
 
  - Social Accounts
  - Web Accounts
  - Web Services Configuration (similar to Modem Configuration)
 
  More ideas?
 
  2. Icon.  So there is no icon yet.  I did a test using dialog baloons.
   I'm not very convinced, what do people think?
 
  http://dev.laptop.org/~manuq/websettings-icon.png
  http://dev.laptop.org/~manuq/module-webservices.svg
 
  When no web services are installed the CP section displays a message.
  Good!  To close it, buttons Cancel or OK can be pressed.  They both do
  the same, which can be confusing, but this is a flaw of the sugar
  control panel itself, nothing to do in this feature about this.
 
  Ideally the link in that message could be pressed by the user, but we
  know the limitations of Sugar opening activities from inside other
  activities.  What would be convenient, is if the text could be
  selected and copied to the clipboard, or dragged to it.  I think it
  could even contain the link information.
 
  By the way I have tried the link and it doesn't exist:
  http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/WebServices gives 404 not found.
 
  Walter, can you point me to one webservice extension so I can test
  further?  I can see from this screenshot it embeds a webview?
 
  http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:FB-online-account-manager.png
 
 
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  Try grabbing the latest bits from
  http://git.sugarlabs.org/+redwood-city/sugar/social-sugar

 I copyed extensions/web to my install/share/sugar/extensions but
 wasn't grabbed.  Can you provide us a patch to current master?


Not sure what you mean by wasn't grabbed
I'll try to prepare a current patch to master of the whole of the patch
series. (But I thought the social-sugar branch was pretty current.


  Re icons, I had just been using the Browse icon.

 Yes, I remember it was a placeholder.  So what about the topics I
 raised, wording proposal and icon proposal?


I agree re the name. Not sure about the icon proposals. They don't say
'web' to me.



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Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Web Services, Control Panel section

2013-04-09 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org wrote:

 Hi, some bits of design topics for the Web Services feature.

 1. Wording.  Are we OK with Configure your Web Services?  First of,
 no other section use verbs.  According to the description in the
 feature page, this is an account manager.  Other names come to my
 mind:

 - Social Accounts
 - Web Accounts
 - Web Services Configuration (similar to Modem Configuration)


 More ideas?


Profile manager maybe.



 2. Icon.  So there is no icon yet.  I did a test using dialog baloons.
  I'm not very convinced, what do people think?

 http://dev.laptop.org/~manuq/websettings-icon.png
 http://dev.laptop.org/~manuq/module-webservices.svg

 When no web services are installed the CP section displays a message.
 Good!  To close it, buttons Cancel or OK can be pressed.  They both do
 the same, which can be confusing, but this is a flaw of the sugar
 control panel itself, nothing to do in this feature about this.

 Ideally the link in that message could be pressed by the user, but we
 know the limitations of Sugar opening activities from inside other
 activities.  What would be convenient, is if the text could be
 selected and copied to the clipboard, or dragged to it.  I think it
 could even contain the link information.

 By the way I have tried the link and it doesn't exist:
 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/WebServices gives 404 not found.

 Walter, can you point me to one webservice extension so I can test
 further?  I can see from this screenshot it embeds a webview?

 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:FB-online-account-manager.png


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Re: [Sugar-devel] Kicking off HTML5 activities work

2013-04-09 Thread Manuel Quiñones
2013/4/7 Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com:
 Hello,

 when Simon is back, it would be good to have an IRC meeting to kickoff the
 work on HTML5 activities. I generally prefer mailing list discussions, but
 in this case I think it would be useful to chat about it to start things
 off...

+1 for a IRC meeting with the interested developers.

 Anyway I've been researching more and I thought I'd post about what I have
 in mind at the moment.

 I think if we are able to jump on one of the existing web applications
 trains it's going to be much better than doing our own thing based on Webkit
 embedding. All the major browsers are implementing their web apps stuff at a
 level which is higher than their embedding frameworks. On the long term, I
 don't think it's sustainable with our scarce resources to maintain an
 embedding + web apps framework. Also it would be great to be fully
 compatible with existing apps.

Yes I agree we should go for one or the other framework, and not do a
lower level implementation by ourselves.

 With Agora I've been exploring the Firefox OS framework. There are a lot of
 things I like in it but I don't think it's viable for Sugar on the short
 time because, being fully web based, it would require to rewrite the shell
 and all activities in HTML. It's also not particularly mature, for example
 multiple processes works only on Android at the moment.

 In the last couple of days I've been looking at Chromium and I've found
 several good things

 * The web apps API seems pretty mature and well documented.
 * Their approach with ChromeOS is to have a native application launcher and
 window manager (aura). It's a cross platform, custom thing, so I don't think
 we could adopt that layer. But still it's more similar to what we need
 compared to Firefox OS.
 * Chrome already has an application mode, activated by command line
 switches, which hides the browser chrome.
 * The extensions and applications API seems to provide everything we need.
 * The multiple process framework is certainly more mature then Firefox and
 perhaps then WebKit too.

 So here is more or less what I have in mind

 1. Add support for Chrome web apps to Sugar.

Yes, investigating the Chrome path will be great, specially because of
the adventages you mention.

 We could start by adding a native App store activity, which would
 basically be just a (UI less) Chrome browser window, pointing to a website
 hosting web apps. The installation would be all managed by Chrome itself.
 The sugar shell would communicate with Chrome through an extension to get
 the list of installed activities, to request launching and uninstalling
 them. We should be able to do that with these extension APIs:

 http://developer.chrome.com/extensions/management.html

 http://developer.chrome.com/extensions/runtime.html#method-connect
 http://developer.chrome.com/extensions/examples/extensions/native_messaging.zip
 (There is a connectNative method which is not yet documented. Rather than
 connecting to another extension, it connects to a native process and
 communicates via standard input and output).

Interesting.  Will this make the webapp activity installed so it
appears in the spiral already?  At first glance it looks like a big
task for the first step. But on the other hand, going through all this
process will make us identify any issues.  This could be an
activities store + hello web activity.

We can start using the term webact meaning web activity instead of
webapp :)

 In the UI web apps would just look like normal activities. We need to figure
 out the window manager bits which might be a bit tricky but I'd think
 possible.
 We need a way to start Chrome without windows to be able to get a list of
 installed applications. I have not investigated it but I suppose at worst we
 would have to add a command line option. Or... we could keep the store
 always running.

We could also look at what Ubuntu is doing regarding this and other
webapp things .  They have integration with both Firefox and Chrome:

https://launchpad.net/webapps
http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/technologies/webapps/

 2 Implement html/css/javascript UI controls following the HIG.

 I'm pretty happy with the approach I've taken in Agora

 https://github.com/ayopa/xi-graphics
 https://github.com/ayopa/xi-artwork
 https://github.com/ayopa/xi-activity

Yes, Agora was useful to test that.

 3 We could expose datastore access through the html5 filesystem API. The
 application would request persistent storage, save both data and metadata
 there and we would then somehow put that in our datastore.

 http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/file/filesystem/

Hmm looking at that tutorial, seems like each webapp can access it's
own sandboxed filesystem.

 4 We could expose collaboration using WebRTC.

 https://hacks.mozilla.org/2013/03/webrtc-data-channels-for-great-multiplayer/

Excellent.


 I have not really explored 3 and 4 much. The point is that if we can use
 existing APIs 

Re: [Sugar-devel] Github review workflow

2013-04-09 Thread Manuel Quiñones
2013/4/8 Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org:
 2013/3/28 Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com:
 Hi,

 I started experimenting a bit with github code reviews, with Walter as
 ginuea pig :) We wasn't too sure about stuff like rebasing, using
 separate branches etc, so tonight I played a bit myself with creating
 pull requests.

 Something like the following might be a decent start for a workflow

 1 Create one branch per topic

 0. Fork

 I forgot to do it in my first pull-request submission.

And add a remote for upstream.  Example:

git remote add upstream https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar.git

Which is useful to keep your fork in sync.  This is for the record, we
need to write the documentation of the workflow.


 git checkout -b topic1

 2 Make one or more commits
 3 Push the branch

 git push origin topic1

 4 Submit a pull request for the branch (web UI)

 5a The reviewer merges the patch.
 5b The reviewer rejects the patch (and closes the request).
 5c The reviewer requires changes (and closes the request).

 If 5c:

 6 Make changes using interactive rebase
 (http://git-scm.com/book/en/Git-Tools-Rewriting-History#Changing-Multiple-Commit-Messages)

 git rebase -i master

 7 Push the changes to another remote branch

 git push origin topic1:topic1-try2

 8 Submit the new pull request (web UI)


 If someone has experience with github suggestions would be welcome.
 Otherwise I hope Walter will keep being the ginuea pig in this
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[Sugar-devel] [GSoC '13] Introduction and a few clarifications

2013-04-09 Thread piyush bansal
Hi all
I am piyush, a student developer and am very much interested in
participating for GSoC '13 with Sugar labs. I am interested in Project
Sharing Website project. I had few doubts about what framework would be
preferred and what exactly is meant by Tools to support community
management of the site and a few other things. I would really be happy if
I can talk to some mentor and have a discussion about the same.

P.S what is MrSteve's IRC nick ?
P.P.S I was thinking that django( or flask) would be good for this project
? what are your opinions about the same ?


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[Sugar-devel] New default values for compatibility in ASLO

2013-04-09 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Trying to add a new activity version in ASLO, the default values for Sugar
versions
are now 0.100 - 0.98.

I think should be 0.98 - 0.100, right?

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[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Jukebox-30

2013-04-09 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage:
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4045

Sugar Platform:
0.98 - 0.100

Download Now:
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/28536/jukebox-30.xo

Release notes:
This version include many improvements in code and stability from Manuel 
Kauffman.

41e0659 Set the right playing item when click over one item in the playlist
50d94f1 Add .gitignore
ce141a5 Update order in the playlist when delete one item - SL #4435
90183d9 Show the first item in the treeview selected at start
bd08420 Syncronize element been playerd with selection in the treeview
6916c90 Play the next stream if the current one is not available SL #4404
d5b6b7c Fix: 'Add stream from the Journal (datastore)'
5d821ef Do not hide empty panel when a pen drive is (un)mounted SL #4405
6927400 Set as sensitive the show playlist button if a playlist is loaded SL 
#4406
af4abfc Synch PO files
611a353 Keep the Gio.VolumeMonitor instance in memory
629d101 Show an Alert when there are missing tracks at startup
5746144 Check availability of stream
f2c4417 Set total_time just once per stream
0796e46 Make reseek more CPU friendly
afedc32 Proper sensitive on control buttons
5ab425e Unfullscreen when no more streams
2c39f29 Show 'No media' message when Jukebox starts from scratch SL #4158
9f4e3ee Correct playlist width at start up
8f43c52 Controls class modularized
ecb1ba3 GstPlayer error callback
874cae3 Remove unused old code
8f2924e Better control over the playlist
00310ed Visualization on Audio streams removed
1c74c06 Do not initialize video sink (videoscale, videoconvert, autovideosink, 
etc)
7086f85 Put Gst.Pipeline in Gst.State.NULL at exit
1761ace Pause Video when lost focus
0bf46d8 Modularization of classes



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Re: [Sugar-devel] New default values for compatibility in ASLO

2013-04-09 Thread Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn
Yes.. the small first :-)
Maybe I lose the discussion: why 0.100 instead 1.00 ?

Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 18:13:10 -0300
From: gonz...@laptop.org
To: sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org; alsr...@activitycentral.org
Subject: [Sugar-devel] New default values for compatibility in ASLO

Trying to add a new activity version in ASLO, the default values for Sugar 
versionsare now 0.100 - 0.98.
I think should be 0.98 - 0.100, right?
Gonzalo 

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Re: [Sugar-devel] New default values for compatibility in ASLO

2013-04-09 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn 
alan...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Yes.. the small first :-)

 Maybe I lose the discussion: why 0.100 instead 1.00 ?


The short story is we don't feel ready for 1.0.
While can sound strange Sugar has not reached 1.0, with 2M users and years
of development,
we expected do a API cleanup before announce the mythical 1.0 number,
and in this cycle, this is difficult due to resources concerns.

Gonzalo


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 Subject: [Sugar-devel] New default values for compatibility in ASLO


 Trying to add a new activity version in ASLO, the default values for Sugar
 versions
 are now 0.100 - 0.98.

 I think should be 0.98 - 0.100, right?

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Github review workflow

2013-04-09 Thread Martin Abente
Hello:

I was testing the workflow today (thanks a lot to manuq for the assistance)
and it seems easy enough. The only thing that I didn't like was the
merge-commit, IMHO is a little-bit noisy. I know the importance of leaving
a trace about who's pushing the change, but a whole commit for that doesn't
seem right to me.

I got to push manuq changes without the the merge-commit, but it didn't
leave any trace of me pushing it, which is something we require. So, does
occur to someone a way to get the best from both worlds (IE, a way to have
the acked-by) :)?

Saludos,
Tincho.

On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org wrote:

 2013/4/8 Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org:
  2013/3/28 Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com:
  Hi,
 
  I started experimenting a bit with github code reviews, with Walter as
  ginuea pig :) We wasn't too sure about stuff like rebasing, using
  separate branches etc, so tonight I played a bit myself with creating
  pull requests.
 
  Something like the following might be a decent start for a workflow
 
  1 Create one branch per topic
 
  0. Fork
 
  I forgot to do it in my first pull-request submission.

 And add a remote for upstream.  Example:

 git remote add upstream https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar.git

 Which is useful to keep your fork in sync.  This is for the record, we
 need to write the documentation of the workflow.

 
  git checkout -b topic1
 
  2 Make one or more commits
  3 Push the branch
 
  git push origin topic1
 
  4 Submit a pull request for the branch (web UI)
 
  5a The reviewer merges the patch.
  5b The reviewer rejects the patch (and closes the request).
  5c The reviewer requires changes (and closes the request).
 
  If 5c:
 
  6 Make changes using interactive rebase
  (
 http://git-scm.com/book/en/Git-Tools-Rewriting-History#Changing-Multiple-Commit-Messages
 )
 
  git rebase -i master
 
  7 Push the changes to another remote branch
 
  git push origin topic1:topic1-try2
 
  8 Submit the new pull request (web UI)
 
 
  If someone has experience with github suggestions would be welcome.
  Otherwise I hope Walter will keep being the ginuea pig in this
  experiment  :)
 
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Re: [Sugar-devel] New default values for compatibility in ASLO

2013-04-09 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 06:13:10PM -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
 Trying to add a new activity version in ASLO, the default values for Sugar
 versions
 are now 0.100 - 0.98.
 
 I think should be 0.98 - 0.100, right?

Should work for now.

 
 Gonzalo

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[Sugar-devel] [GSoC 2013] Interested in Implement help mechanism for activities using Mallard

2013-04-09 Thread Kalpa Welivitigoda
Hi all,

I am interested in the GSoC project idea Implement help mechanism for
activities using Mallar which is mentored by Walter. The idea in my mind
is that developers have to have a Mallard file with the help for their
activity. And a tool should be developed to extract strings from those
Mallard files and upload them at translate.sugarlabs.org so that
translators can translate those help files. Those strings to be translated,

1) can be listed in a separate section for example Help Files
or
2) can be listed under translations of the same activity

Chris may have a better idea on what method to follow. But I feel that with
option 1 may get a separate group of people who are willing to translate
help files rather than focusing on individual activity help files. That way
I feel that there would be a set of new contributors in terms of
translation.

This is what I have in mind for the moment and comments are most welcome.

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Kalpa Welivitigoda
Junior Treasurer | Electrical Engineering Society
Undergraduate | Department of Electrical Engineering
University of Moratuwa
Sri Lanka
http://about.me/callkalpa
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