Re: [Sugar-devel] [sugar-build] Is webkitgtk becoming a barrier?

2013-05-21 Thread William Orr
We have sugar-build use packages for certain packages on Fedora 19 that aren't available on Fedora 18 already (ragel, node, npm), so why not just add webkitgtk to the list as well? It makes sense enough to me, provided we're pulling a compatible version. To that end, I've already submitted a p

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Clock-13

2013-05-21 Thread Gary C Martin
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/honey/Clock/Clock-13.tar.bz2 == Bundle == http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/downloads/file/28584/clock-13.xo == News == * Use standard lips icon for speech features (thanks Walter!) * Feature allowing dragging of clock hands to manua

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Marketing] Sugar 0.100 or 1.0

2013-05-21 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 21 May 2013 23:32, Sameer Verma wrote: > Speaking of "activities" in the Sugar sense, I was wondering how many > of the HTML5 apps from FirefoxOS would slide over to our platform with > little change. I just got my hands on a Geeksphone Peak > (http://www.geeksphone.com/) and have been followi

[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Clock-13

2013-05-21 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4191 Sugar Platform: 0.82 - 0.100 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/28584/clock-13.xo Release notes: * Use standard lips icon for speech features (thanks Walter!) * Feature allowing dragging of clock hands to man

Re: [Sugar-devel] Getting karma to work with sugar-activity-html

2013-05-21 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Almost done! We are successfully running the sugar-html-graphics test in buildbot. The only bit left is to redirect the logs so that they don't mix up with the shell ones and buildbot can watch them. I posted a couple of sugar patches that will make that possible https://github.com/sugarlabs/suga

Re: [Sugar-devel] About web activities, webkit2 and backward compatibility

2013-05-21 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 21 May 2013 23:43, Daniel Francis wrote: > On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 05:09:38 PM Gonzalo Odiard wrote: > > > > I was confused by the rpm number, my mistake. > > > > > > [olpc@xo-1e-88-13 logs]$ rpm -ql webkitgtk3 | grep typelib > > /usr/lib/girepository-1.0/JSCore-3.0.typelib > > /usr/lib/girep

Re: [Sugar-devel] About web activities, webkit2 and backward compatibility

2013-05-21 Thread Daniel Francis
On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 05:09:38 PM Gonzalo Odiard wrote: > > I was confused by the rpm number, my mistake. > > > [olpc@xo-1e-88-13 logs]$ rpm -ql webkitgtk3 | grep typelib > /usr/lib/girepository-1.0/JSCore-3.0.typelib > /usr/lib/girepository-1.0/WebKit-3.0.typelib > /usr/lib/girepository-1.0/

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Marketing] Sugar 0.100 or 1.0

2013-05-21 Thread Sameer Verma
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 4:39 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > On 20 May 2013 12:19, Bastien wrote: >> >> Sean DALY writes: >> >> > I feel that 0.100 is even more unmarketable than 0.98. >> >> Agreed. Mathematically, it reads like a regression. Instead of >> reaching some definite level of maturity,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Sugar 0.100 or 1.0

2013-05-21 Thread Sameer Verma
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 6:21 AM, Walter Bender wrote: > Perfection is the enemy of the good. > > On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: >> Hello, >> >> we need to decide if we want the next release to be 1.0 or 0.100. >> >> Here is the features we are planning for it. >> >> * Deve

Re: [Sugar-devel] About web activities, webkit2 and backward compatibility

2013-05-21 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
I was confused by the rpm number, my mistake. [olpc@xo-1e-88-13 logs]$ rpm -ql webkitgtk3 | grep typelib /usr/lib/girepository-1.0/JSCore-3.0.typelib /usr/lib/girepository-1.0/WebKit-3.0.typelib /usr/lib/girepository-1.0/WebKit2-3.0.typelib Looks like the two libraries are packaged in the same rp

Re: [Sugar-devel] About web activities, webkit2 and backward compatibility

2013-05-21 Thread Daniel Drake
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: > >> webkitgtk3 > > > I think that is webkit, no webkit2 How are you coming to that conclusion? I just checked the spec file, webkit2 compilation is enabled, and the lib appears installed as /usr/lib/libwebkit2gtk-3.0.so.18.0.5 It is not as

Re: [Sugar-devel] Getting karma to work with sugar-activity-html

2013-05-21 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 21 May 2013 17:03, Manuel Quiñones wrote: > Feel free to move sugar-html-test to sugarlabs user. > Done. > I checked out the karma branch, and got it working doing the change in > karma.conf.js: > > browsers = ['sugar-html-test']; > > I sent a pull request to make this change. > Then I di

Re: [Sugar-devel] About web activities, webkit2 and backward compatibility

2013-05-21 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
> webkitgtk3 > I think that is webkit, no webkit2 Gonzalo ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] About web activities, webkit2 and backward compatibility

2013-05-21 Thread Daniel Drake
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: > >> webkit2 is included in F18 and is in OLPC builds. Has anyone checked >> if it is good enough to run the latest webapp stuff? There may be no >> need to go back to webkit1 if you want to continue on this path. >> > > I can'see webkit2 inst

Re: [Sugar-devel] About web activities, webkit2 and backward compatibility

2013-05-21 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
> webkit2 is included in F18 and is in OLPC builds. Has anyone checked > if it is good enough to run the latest webapp stuff? There may be no > need to go back to webkit1 if you want to continue on this path. > > I can'see webkit2 installed in 13.2.0, what is the package? [olpc@xo-1e-88-13 logs]$

Re: [Sugar-devel] About web activities, webkit2 and backward compatibility

2013-05-21 Thread Daniel Drake
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: > Question for the sugar-web-activities framework developers: > > * With the actual implementation, do we _really_ need webkit2? > > You can say, why? We already decided that! > > I know, but thinking in the following months: > > * If we cont

Re: [Sugar-devel] About web activities, webkit2 and backward compatibility

2013-05-21 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > On 21 May 2013 20:31, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: > >> Question for the sugar-web-activities framework developers: >> >> * With the actual implementation, do we _really_ need webkit2? >> > > Probably not. It should be easy to give it a try, the

Re: [Sugar-devel] About web activities, webkit2 and backward compatibility

2013-05-21 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 21 May 2013 20:31, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: > Question for the sugar-web-activities framework developers: > > * With the actual implementation, do we _really_ need webkit2? > Probably not. It should be easy to give it a try, the API didn't change that much. > * If we continue going with webkit

[Sugar-devel] About web activities, webkit2 and backward compatibility

2013-05-21 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Question for the sugar-web-activities framework developers: * With the actual implementation, do we _really_ need webkit2? You can say, why? We already decided that! I know, but thinking in the following months: * If we continue going with webkit2, the only way to develop web activities, will b

[Sugar-devel] [sugar-build] Back green

2013-05-21 Thread Daniel Narvaez
The build slaves are all back green, so hopefully things are back to sanity. If you run into any issue please let me know. Unfortunately a clean clone might be necessary for stuff to work out of the box, if you haven't cloned recently. I will try to do changes more gradually and carefully in the

[Sugar-devel] developer.sugarlabs.org is up

2013-05-21 Thread Daniel Narvaez
http://developer.sugarlabs.org/ This is work-in-progress but we eventually would like it to be the entry point for new developers. The documents are generated from markdown text files in the sugar-docs repository git://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-docs.git If you want to make any change, pull requ

Re: [Sugar-devel] Update docs

2013-05-21 Thread Bernie Innocenti
BTW, sorry it took so long. We need someone who will take care of these things when I'm on vacation or busy. If you or Simon would like to help co-maintain our DNS infrastructure, read the documentation (*) then ping me on irc to get started. (*) http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Service/Nameservers

Re: [Sugar-devel] Update docs

2013-05-21 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 21 May 2013 17:21, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > On 05/20/13 08:07, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > > If you could make that > > > > developer.sugarlabs.org -> > > http://sugarlabs.org/~buildbot/docs/index.md.html (notice the md) > > > > that would make my life a little ea

Re: [Sugar-devel] Update docs

2013-05-21 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On 05/20/13 08:07, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > If you could make that > > developer.sugarlabs.org -> > http://sugarlabs.org/~buildbot/docs/index.md.html (notice the md) > > that would make my life a little easier. Done. What about doc.sugarlabs.org? Is it still curr

Re: [Sugar-devel] Getting karma to work with sugar-activity-html

2013-05-21 Thread Manuel Quiñones
2013/5/20 Manuel Quiñones : > 2013/5/20 Daniel Narvaez : >> Accidentally sent the previous email. Sorry. >> >> New module with the test activity, I can transfer to sugarlabs if we agree >> on the approach. I'm pretty happy with it, it doesn't even require to touch >> toolkit. >> >> https://github.c

Re: [Sugar-devel] Tests for online service support

2013-05-21 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 20 May 2013 12:39, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > * All the Account methods returns what expected. > * All the MenuItem signals are emitted as expected. > * Calling set_metadata results in the expected change to the journal > object. > On a second thought I'm not sure it make sense to test these las

Re: [Sugar-devel] HTML Sugar: Unit testing research

2013-05-21 Thread Manuel Quiñones
2013/5/21 Daniel Narvaez : > On 21 May 2013 01:47, Manuel Quiñones wrote: >> >> So if we were to follow fashion, Mocha would be the one :P . But I >> think the simplistic approach of Jasmine is good enough for us, >> specially considering the involvement of new devs. Jasmine is a bit >> more rea

Re: [Sugar-devel] HTML Sugar: Unit testing research

2013-05-21 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 21 May 2013 01:47, Manuel Quiñones wrote: > I gave a try to Intern http://theintern.io/ . It looks quite > interesting and can do both, BDD and TDD, and async. But 1. is too > new (released a few days ago) and 2. unless we want continuous > integration support (CI) or Selenium support, we do

Re: [Sugar-devel] HTML Sugar: Unit testing research

2013-05-21 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 21 May 2013 01:47, Manuel Quiñones wrote: > So if we were to follow fashion, Mocha would be the one :P . But I > think the simplistic approach of Jasmine is good enough for us, > specially considering the involvement of new devs. Jasmine is a bit > more readable and elegant too. The only th

Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar-build after osbuild change report

2013-05-21 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 21 May 2013 10:15, Simon Schampijer wrote: > > Pulling today I got: > > [erikos@t61 sugar-build]$ ./osbuild pull > > > = Updating build system = > > * Pulling sugar-build > Already up-to-date. > > = Pulling = > > * Pulling automake > * Pulling glib > * Pulling gobject-introspection > * Pulling

Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar-build after osbuild change report

2013-05-21 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/20/2013 07:43 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 05/20/2013 05:52 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: On 20 May 2013 12:48, Daniel Narvaez wrote: Ok, great. Would be fantastic if '--help' would print the list of possible arguments. I'd like to avoid maintaining the docs in two places :) Though p